The crew of the Pegasus is not the Other, the mirrorverse to our crew. They are more extreme versions.
Can you point to a group on the show that is *not* a version of another group - either more or less extreme in one fashion or another?
I'm not entirely agreeing with the "this is what Galactica is turning into! Galactica is the same sort of monsterous crew as Pegasus, they're just not showing it yet!"
The same sort of thinking would say that in, say, 1830's America, a shopowner in Boston who would not hire a black man as a counter clerk was the same sort of person who operated as a slave catcher.
There is no such thing as “a bit of torture”. If you condone beatings, near drownings, and the entire enchilada, you condone rape as well.
I disagree. I think that "torture" and "abuse" is not an either/or thing - it's a gradient, a shading from black to grey to white, and what is "wrong" is what we say is wrong. Hence, organizations and societies define what conduct is permitted, and what is not, to make things clear.
Don't get me wrong, I think that Pegasus's treatment of the captured Cylons stepped way over my lines of "acceptable". But even among civilized Western nations, there is a range of acceptable punishments for various crimes. One man's hard labor is another man's torture.
And Baltar's actions - which were illegal when he did them - were responsible for the deaths of billions. Ever since then, he's been aiding and abetting the Cylons. I'm afraid I'm pretty much without much condemnation for anyone who wanted to execute him for those crimes.
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Can you point to a group on the show that is *not* a version of another group - either more or less extreme in one fashion or another?
I'm not entirely agreeing with the "this is what Galactica is turning into! Galactica is the same sort of monsterous crew as Pegasus, they're just not showing it yet!"
The same sort of thinking would say that in, say, 1830's America, a shopowner in Boston who would not hire a black man as a counter clerk was the same sort of person who operated as a slave catcher.
There is no such thing as “a bit of torture”. If you condone beatings, near drownings, and the entire enchilada, you condone rape as well.
I disagree. I think that "torture" and "abuse" is not an either/or thing - it's a gradient, a shading from black to grey to white, and what is "wrong" is what we say is wrong. Hence, organizations and societies define what conduct is permitted, and what is not, to make things clear.
Don't get me wrong, I think that Pegasus's treatment of the captured Cylons stepped way over my lines of "acceptable". But even among civilized Western nations, there is a range of acceptable punishments for various crimes. One man's hard labor is another man's torture.
And Baltar's actions - which were illegal when he did them - were responsible for the deaths of billions. Ever since then, he's been aiding and abetting the Cylons. I'm afraid I'm pretty much without much condemnation for anyone who wanted to execute him for those crimes.
- hossgal