selenak: (Pilot - kathyh)
selenak ([personal profile] selenak) wrote2004-10-19 05:22 pm

Farscape: one and a half...

Oh joy! Oh curse! Thanks to the link [livejournal.com profile] ide_cyan provided, I've been able to watch Part 1 of Peacekeeper Wars online (which means I still need those CDs!), and about 48 minutes of part two, but though I tried twice, it won't show me the rest! This is a conspiracy. Evil. Though still, woo hoo for what I've seen so far. Except...


...for the fact they made Sikozu a spy, which is about the last scene I've watched. before everything came to a halt (twice). My other nitpick would be the stuff with Jool - she never had a crush on Crichton, so why on earth introduce that now?

Other than that: much love. I was utterly delighted, of course, with the Rygel opening sequence. Ah, Farscape, how do I adore thy creative use of vomit. And bad fanfic clichés - that's the mpreg to end all mpregs. More delights continued to come my way - Aeryn back to normal, quiet moments for D'Argo, the John & Pilot talk in II about John being willing to committ mass murder for Aeryn and the baby... The Eidolons I'm not sure about. I mean, if their ability to convince others to peace rests on their physical presence and some kind of quasi-hypnosis, it's a very temporary solution at best, leaving alone the ethics involved. (Jasmine, anyone?) Still, cool tie-in of the season 4 opening episodes, the purpose of which is finally clear now.

I don't know what to do now. I want my remaining 30 or so minutes of II. Failing that, I'm not sure I can resist reading those spoilery posts any longer. Frell!

[identity profile] hobsonphile.livejournal.com 2004-10-19 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
Great Maker, you were stopped just before the really big spoilery bits. Poor thing. All I will say for now is: Brace Yourself.

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2004-10-19 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm braced, and so far still virtuous and unspoiled. Though it's ever so frustrating!
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[personal profile] kathyh 2004-10-19 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
No cheating Oh Woman That Told Me To Be Strong! You can last out for those final 30 minutes...can't you? And my halo is still shining as I didn't even read the spoilery bit you wrote about.

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2004-10-19 09:15 am (UTC)(link)
I am trying. Have lasted so far. Will hopefully make it through the night unspoiled. Hope for arrival of saving CDs by the end of the week...

Reponses

[identity profile] buffyannotater.livejournal.com 2004-10-19 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
First, there is no way to adequately describe having the end being cut off but completely poo-ey. Or some other stronger word.

a) re: Sikozou being a spy. I would rather she wasn't, but I wasn't too surprised, since I kind of figured it out. It was obviously not Grunchlik, since that was too obvious, and there was no one else in the core group who I found untrustworthy enough to do that, including Scorpius, unless they were being mind-controlled. Also, I found her motivations believable.

b) Jool--The first time I saw it, I was taken aback. The second time, though, the way I see it is, she's gone sort of native in the year she's been on the planet, we know that she can be sexually uninhibited from Scratch N' Sniff, and I think she just thought, "The hell with it." She didn't particularly have to have a crush on John to jump him like that. I think she just went with it, half expecting Aeryn to show up a moment later. A year with the Eidolon priests may have gotten her a bit...horny.

c) The Rygel pregnancy was wonderful. And actually led to great character development. But I'm not sure if some of the stuff I want to talk about happened before or after your vid cut out.

d) The Eidolons: I don't think it was quite the same as Jasmine, because when Staleek, for example was affected by the Eidolon at the end of I, he was still very much himself. He was more willing to negotiate, but still stuck to his guns in the areas he demanded it. The Eidolon didn't turn him into a brainless follower, but allowed him to see reason and think logically rather than be driven by his impulsive, violent instincts.

And expanding on that, I loved how the What Was Lost two-parter was finally explained, and the history of the Eidolons, the Peacekeepers, and the Humans was revealed. I always felt that that episode was more important than some people gave it credit for, and particularly that there would be some revelation about the link to Earth on that planet that would play a crucial role in the mythology, and this revelation did not disappoint in the least, and made complete sense to me.

Try not to read the spoilers, though. It is such an emotional-driven ending that it won't be nearly as good if you know what happens.

Re: Reponses

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2004-10-19 09:26 am (UTC)(link)
I loved the backstory as well, and so far have resisted for find out about the ending. This will be my last Farscape experience ever, in all likelihood, and I want the surprises to continue.

You've got a point about Staleek not having become a brainwashed follower a la Jasmine near the end of I, but... how about a comparison with what the Nebari do? Mindcleansed Durka was eminently reasonable, too.

Rygel: was last seen saying "thank you" to John (for taking the baby out) before the rude ending of my viewing. Am looking forward to more of him!

Incidentally, one could see a thematic parallel between the Sebaceans being the descendants of the humans, and the Eidolons on the water planet being the descendents of the Eidolons on Annesk.

Re: Reponses

[identity profile] buffyannotater.livejournal.com 2004-10-19 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
You've got a point about Staleek not having become a brainwashed follower a la Jasmine near the end of I, but... how about a comparison with what the Nebari do? Mindcleansed Durka was eminently reasonable, too.

Yes, but I would put the Nebari mind-control closer to what Jasmine does, because the cleansed are completely blissed out, are not essentially themselves, and speak in rhetoric about what a life-changing experience the mind-cleansing has been for them. Staleek saw the benefits of peace with under Eidolon influence, but wasn't exactly what you'd call a hippie. ;-)

If the last thing you saw of Rygel was him saying "thank you" to John for taking the baby out, you have some really great stuff left with the little Hynerian.

Expanding on that...

[identity profile] buffyannotater.livejournal.com 2004-10-19 09:44 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe since the Nebari weren't given a role to play in the end of the story, you could say that the Nebaris and Eidolons are examples of, respectively, the wrong and right way to go about doing the same thing. Perhaps the Nebaris were directly inspired by the Eidolons, but instead of coaxing out the essential reason within people, chose an alternate, more forceful route. Also, Eidolon presence is required to maintain their influence, whereas what the Nebaris do is supposedly permanent, closer to a lobotomy.

A link maybe could be drawn with how the Peacekeepers developed from people who could bear their name unironically to their current, almost Fascist state, and how the Nebaris also took an Eidolon idea and perverted it.

[identity profile] illmantrim.livejournal.com 2004-10-19 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
woohooooooos cant wait until you see the rest. Clamps lips shut and goes to watch it again

[identity profile] illmantrim.livejournal.com 2004-10-19 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Mwahahahahahha, but of course my friend, but of course!