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selenak ([personal profile] selenak) wrote2007-01-20 10:20 am
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Guilt meme, from [personal profile] resolute

CULINARY GUILT: Chocolate. As with most of the population. How can you resist chocolate? Or, in another understanding of the phrase "culinary guilt": I always feel slightly guilty about the fact I can't cook when most of my cousins and friends can...

LITERARY GUILT: Still haven't read Tolstoi. Neither War and Peace nor Anna Karenina nor the Kreutzer Sonata, all three of which I really want to read. Damm it. Also, if you mean guilty pleasures: the Star of the Guardians novels by Margaret Weis. Which is a shameless/clever/use word of choice thing using the basic Star Wars: A New Hope set-up (young hero, mentor gets killed, quippy mercenary, Dark Lord who used to be one of the good guys before he turned, noble lady imprisoned) and spins it in a different direction, making the dark lord and the lady of an age and giving them an intense love/hate relationship, and has Weis' usual religious hang-up and very questionable politics (instead of an Evil Empire, we have an Evil Atheistic Republic where previously there used to be a Not Ideal But God-fearing Monarchy, and our young hero is the destined king and brings back the monarchy, don't you know). Also, she sucks at translating Latin. ("...et cum spirito tuo" doesn't mean "and may his spirit be with you" but "and may (the lord) be with your spirit", woman! After Vatican II gave us mass in our native languages, you have no excuse for not knowing that, if you're using part of a formula that belongs to the responses of the community during Catholic mass) And? I still love those books and cry my heart out over Derek Sagan (that would be the Vader equivalent) and the Lady Maigrey (that would be Leia, if Leia weren't his daughter but his age and if he had this telepathic bond with her and they had betrayed and rescued each other a couple of times and...) every time.

A/V GUILT: Currently? I'm trying to get into The Prisoner and it just doesn't work. I expected to fall for it, given that I like my British tv classics and my surrealism, and several people whose judgment I very much respect are fans, but after three episodes, I'm still just going "well, so?" and "neat use of Portmairion".

MUSICAL GUILT: I have been known to visit Andrew Llyod Webber musicals repeatedly. And to buy the cds for same. And not just the three classics he made with Tim Rice, so...

CELEBRITY GUILT: Here I have to stretch, but... after watching The Queen, I thought: if these were fictional characters instead of real ones, I would so 'ship Elizabeth II/Tony Blair...

[identity profile] sionnain.livejournal.com 2007-01-20 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I share this Andrew Lloyd Weber thing with you. I mean, I would rather boil in oil than sit through Cats again (WTF was wrong with TS Eliot? Did he go crazy in the Wasteland and come out muttering about cats?) but I still love Phantom and Evita and singing along with the scores.

[identity profile] likeadeuce.livejournal.com 2007-01-20 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
(WTF was wrong with TS Eliot? Did he go crazy in the Wasteland and come out muttering about cats?)

HE WAS MUTTERING ABOUT GRANT MORRISON'S CAT MUFFINS, AND THEN DECIDED TO PURSUE AUTHORIAL SELF-INSERTION. . .omg, that sounds dirty.

What I mean to say is, he was a strange man.

I have never seen anything by ALW, except the movie of Evita, during which I literally fell asleep. In the theater. On the other hand, my high school band once played a medley from "Jesus Christ: Superstar" so i know all the main tunes, but only with madeup words that we inserted to remember the songs.

Umm, yeah, what else. Tolstoi. One of the few world authors I actually have read most of the major works. I like "War & Peace," especially the way old Liev obviously started the book with a huge mancrush on Napoleon, and, by the end, was trying to deny it. The book gets much stodgier and more self-important by the end, but the first third or so -- the battle scene at Austerlitz is amazing virtuoso writing. A lot of his characters are Mary Sue/Gary Stus (either in the way-too-perfect or the self-insert way) and they are usually the ones you want to smack. He writes great self-centered assholes who don't think that they are (Vronsky is my no-good literary boyfriend) and I'm not entirely sure this is intentional. The Kreutzer Sonata is. . .very very strange. It's actually the first thing I read by him and it put me off him for a long time. Yet somehow I ended up reading those two other enormous books anyway.

Finally, I can never think of AK without thinking about Ralph Fiennes in The English Patient: "Madox keeps talking about Anna Karenina. I think it's his idea of a man-to-man chat."

[identity profile] sionnain.livejournal.com 2007-01-20 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
The book I like that everyone hates is Crime and Punishment. Don't get me wrong, I wanted to kill someone during the middle bits, ugh, and sometimes I wanted to smack Roskolnikov with a brick, but I still really liked it. I used to read the end, when I was sad. I'm not sure why, though. Maybe it was like, "At least I don't have to wait seven years for my lover to get out of a Siberian prison."

...

I probably missed the point of that.

[identity profile] likeadeuce.livejournal.com 2007-01-20 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't finish anything by Dostoevsky. That might be my literary guilt.

[identity profile] sionnain.livejournal.com 2007-01-20 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate Thomas Hardy. A lot. I don't know that I feel guilty about it at all, but I'm just saying. That I hate him. A WHOLE LOT.

[identity profile] likeadeuce.livejournal.com 2007-01-20 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Hardy = great poet, crappy novelist. I have nonetheless, read most of his novels, voluntarily, and was just thinking I should read Jude the Obscure. I can't explain it.

[identity profile] midnightsjane.livejournal.com 2007-01-20 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
When I was trying, and failing, to get into James Joyce's Ulysses, a friend of mine (who owns a bookstore) said that the only book more tedious than Ulysses was Jude the Obscure. I lost any desire to read it right then!

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2007-01-21 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
You know, it will never stop to crack me up that the program for
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You know, it will never stop to crack me up that the program for <i<Cats</i> lists Eliot's cv like this: "<i>Wasteland</i> blablaaha...nobel prize for literature blabablaha... posthumous Tony for "Cats"...."

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2007-01-21 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
You know, it will never stop to crack me up that the program for Cats lists Eliot's cv like this: "Wasteland blablaaha...nobel prize for literature blabablaha... posthumous Tony for "Cats"...."