selenak: (Alex Drake by Renestarko)
selenak ([personal profile] selenak) wrote2008-08-06 09:39 am

More Ashes to Ashes thought and a Fray review

Something that has undoubtedly occured to dozens of watchers before me, but bear with me:



Alex' father reading her C.S.Lewis and telling her about them being in Narnia should have been a big, big clue that he was behind the bomb, in retrospect. Because one of the two most controversial things about the Chronicles of Narnia these days surely is that in The Last Battle, every single character we've been following dies and goes to heaven, which is revealed as the ultimate version of Narnia. Except Susan, whose fate would be the other most controversial thing. So Tim Price planning to blow himself, his wife and his daughter up to kingdom come (literally) fits with the Narnia reading in a twisted fashion to absolute perfection.

Of course, thinking of Narnia, the lion picture on the door to Gene Hunt's office would make him an Aslan candidate, which, you know, is just this side of the Jesus imagery used for Gaius Baltar. But it occurs to me that whether or not this is the authorial intention, it's possible to read this whole thing with Alex' father and his Narnia interpretation as a self-critique on the creators' part. Because what does Sam Tyler at the end of s2 if not return to Narnia in a very deliberate choice of Narnia-as-the-perfect-afterlife, in utter dissatisfaction of the 2006/7 non-Narnia reality? Now Sam only kills himself, no one else; Tim Price' idea of not coping with his reality and escaping to Narnia involves not just his own death but his wife's and child's, but isn't the emotional reasoning at least a tad related?

While we're talking about literary references and fantasy realms on both shows, there is a great Ashes to Ashes vid using Elphaba's song from Wicked: The Wizard and I.

I also was motivated to look for fanfic, and found, courtesy of an author I knew from her fabulous Torchwood fanfic: One flash of light but no smoking pistol.

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I hadn't read Fray when it first came out, but when I came across a trade collection in England, I bought it and read it on the flight back. Fray, for those who don't know, was Joss Whedon's first excursion in the realm of comics, and is the story of a Slayer two centuries into the future, Melaka Fray. He wrote it while BtVS was still being broadcast, and there is a tiny link of sorts in Chosen, but basically you can read it on its own, without any background knowledge. I had stumbled across an individual issue eons ago which I remembered as only so-so, which was why I hadn't read it before, but when I now read the complete story, it bowled me over, and I loved it. Doesn't dethrone Astonishing X-Men as my favourite Whedonian oeuvre post-BTVS/AtS/Firefly, but only barely.



It's an origin story, of course, with Melaka Fray being her own character, neither Buffy nor Faith. The way she hears about her calling is, like the Justine-meets-Holtz scene in AtS, a dark twist on Buffy's first encounter, from yet another angle, and it tells you a lot about the world she lives in; the man in the suit who tells her she is the Chosen one is a nutter who sets himself on fire, and the guy who really fills in the Watcher/Mentor position, Urkonn, is a demon she encounters directly after. Because the environment has gone to hell in the last two centuries, there are so many mutations that vampires don't particularly stand out,and Melaka has another reason for not immediately buying into this whole Slayer thing; she is lacking the visions, the dreams of other Slayers, the spider-sense. She only has the super strength and enhanced healing abilities. There is a reason for that that ties into the main twist of the story, which is the main Whedonian emotional sadism of the plot, the element that makes Melaka's battle with the vampires even more personal than Buffy's versus Angelus in season 2: she's a twin. Her twin brother got the Slayer dreams and visions, and guess what happened to him?

Harth Fray being revealed as the Big Bad, Melaka's main vampire opponent, turned into a vampire a few years earlier when he and Melaka came across one of them by accident, is something you could guess if you know your Joss, but what surprised me was the third member of the family we get presented with here, their older sister Erin. Erin's a cop, and considering Melaka earns her living by being a thief, you can guess they don't get along, but Erin is not made into a villain. If the Buffy-Dawn relationship is a bit more mother and child than sister and sister after Joyce's death because of circumstances, this one definitely is older sister/younger sister without the parental overtones, and I really liked how it was developed througout, and where Erin endd up in the finale. (Back in the day, there was this idea making the rounds that Joss can't/won't write adult women without inflicting dire fates on them, or not at all. I'd say I hope AXM put an end to that, but it probably didn't, since a lot of viewers haven't read it. Anyway. Erin? Adult. Does not suffer dire fate, though is in danger a couple of times.)

If you know your JW vampires and the incestous way the Fanged Four related to each other - between Darla's "darling boy" and Drusilla's "daddy" and "Grandmother" - Vampire!Harth telling Melaka he loves her, kissing her on the mouth and adding things are only just beginning definitely fits the profile, but I think it's the first time the incest wasn't metaphorical in a JW work. Harth himself is an Angelus-style villain, chilling and very effective because of the emotional impact he has on Melaka and the way he knows her, and also interesting because he got half the Slayer package, but without a redeeming feature. If you're looking for bad guys with shades of grey, Melaka's boss (the one she does her stealing for) comes to mind, who sells her out but might or might not have been trying to warn her in advance, and at any rate isn't interested in world ending and mass slaughter. And then there's the fact the non-vampiric demons have their own agenda and aren't too keen on Harth opening the gateway to reintroduce the world to magic again (yet) (there is that vampires = least of all the half breed demons snobbery from AtS striking again), which is where Urkonn comes in. Talk about the "any means for a right end" principle and where it leads to. Melaka figuring out just what Urkonn did to get her into the fight is one of the most devastating and effective scenes, as well as the big coming-of-age passage in the story.

All in all: great comic. Must read it again!

[identity profile] londonkds.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
Did you notice the way Harth's speech bubbles are the same shade of blue as Melaka's first-person narrration captions? I thought that was a cool small idea. I also think there are some satirical similarities between Harth and Harry Potter: skinny, Chosen one, scar, glasses.

Are you keeping track of the S8 comics?

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
I noticed about the speech bubbles, but not the Harry Potter similarity, which, now that you point it out, is indeed pronounced.

S8 comics: I can only get the occasional issue which means I've decided to wait till everything is out in trade volumes.

[identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
Given when it was published originally, I suspect that he was thinking as much of Timothy Hunter (The Books of Magic etc.) as of Harry Potter.

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 11:48 am (UTC)(link)
Entirely possible; however, since the BTVS scripts from s5 onwards are peppered with Harry Potter references ("not going to Hogwarts, Mum", "Giles, I didn't expect you to go all Dumbledore on me", Warren's gizmo in "Villains" being basically the snitch from Quidditch games etc.) and considering there were favourable references to the books in various Joss interviews at the time, I think the likelihood of a Harry reference is slightly larger.

[identity profile] likeadeuce.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I love Fray! (I'm sure you're shocked). I have a hunch that a Fray ongoing may be in the offing from Dark Horse, as well (at last) with the success of the Season 8 comics. But I haven't heard anything concrete about that, I'm just speculating.

Does your edition have the introductory material by Joss and by Jeph Loeb? The Joss essay is where he got himself in trouble by declaring a crush on Kitty Pryde, years before he thought he'd have a chance to write X-men. The Loeb one is just ODD.

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Doesn't Mel herself make a guest appearance in one of the s8 comics? That does look like a preparation for a sequel.

Yes, my edition has both introductions. What does ODD stand for? (Or do you mean "odd" as in "strange"?) When I read the Joss one, I thought, ah, that's where those quotes came from. (I remember a time - well, any time pre-AXM #18, actually - where this was quoted as proof that Kitty was Joss' Mary Sue and he was determined to destroy Emma for her sake. Or something. I'd have thought if that intro provided any material for fannish outrage, it would be for Peter Rasputin fans, because of the remark on Kitty's taste in men and "Colossus? Not that bright"...)

In other news, a belated happy birthday, and I loved your Jean Grey essay.

[identity profile] likeadeuce.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Odd as in strange, sorry. Loeb sort of vacillates b/t hostile and fawning.

And, yeah, it's sort of a shame that more of fandom didn't stick around to see AXM through -- although it's hard to blame people with the delays. Maybe there will be an omnibus edition soon!

And thanks on both counts -- the birthday was nice, and the essay was more work than I anticipated, but I was happy the way it turned out in the end.

Incidentally, while I don't love the art, there's some interesting Scott/Emma content in the preview for the newest issue of Cable: here (http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.4386.Preview%7Ecolon%7E_Cable_%236). I quite like the way the writer gets their dynamic, and I haven't said that about any X-writer since Joss. If there's more content in the full issue I'll definitely pass it on.

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Loeb just was busy putting himself into the right frame of mind to write the Riddler vis a vis Selina Kyle in When in Rome...

Oh, I like that scene. Believably Scott and Emma post-Breakworld. And yes, do tell. Meanwhile, England gave me a chance to aquire Secret Invasion 1-4, to which I have to say:

1) Jarvis? Dun Dun Dugan? OMG! Shame about this retconning the entire Dugan-Tony relationship development over at Director of SHIELD as fake, though.

2) Otoh, that mindfuck by Jessica Drew/the Skrull Queen was the sort of character torture I like, and I liked even more how Natasha got him out of it. Go, Black Widow!

3) Clearly, Bendis is all "what Spider-man retcon?" because his version of Peter doesn't have any differently than pre-retcon. I approve of that.

4) So far, I like how Brand is written, but omg, she made it through being invented by Joss and written by Joss without being given Daddy issues, and the very first time another writer gets his hands on her, she gets an abusive dad?!?

[identity profile] likeadeuce.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahaha, I hadn't thought of that re: Brand. Wouldn't it be nice if she actually got along with her big-scary-monster dad? Novel! Did you ever see the 'who do you trust?' oneshot issue by Mike Carey that develops the Brand story more?

So far, I don't think the Spidey retcon has affected anything outside of the main Spider-Man books, and it might stay that way, considering that the revamped Spidey hasn't sold like Marvel planned.

And I wonder if the poor Knaufs even knew Dugan was a skrull when they wrote that arc? There will have to be furious retconning all around after this is over.

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure nobody told the Knaufs. And I want to know whether the real reason we never got a follow up of Jarvis/May during Civil War was that Aunt May discovered she wasn't into alien sex.

Yes, I saw, and that's where we get the flashback of little Abigail cowering under the bed while her dad does something that inflicts blood on the floor and yells. At which point I sighed and thought, Mike, Mike, didyahaveta? I'm pretty sure Mr. Daddy Issues himself, i.e. Joss, didn't intend that when letting her make the offhand "so was my father" remark when Hank says he's blue and furry...

Still. Once that eight parter is over, I need to write Hank/Brand during Secret Invasion.

[identity profile] likeadeuce.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the X-men SI crossover starts next week, so we can finally see what the gang is up to!

I'm hoping Hank and Brand will be involved but I don't really know.

I think we're not even supposed to think about May/Jarvis because that was when they were living at Stark Tower, and it's not even clear that ever happened, b/c nobody remembers Peter was Spidey, etc.

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Doesn't the afterward to the first Secret Invsion issue explicitly mention May/Jarvis? At any rate, the retcon is such a headache.

Given there is a fake Hank gallopping about, Hank better be involved in the crossover. And while Warren Ellis already did me the favour of telling me how Hank calls Brand, we've still to learn by which name she refers to him or if she continues the nickname habit. I want interaction!

Oh! Another thing in England: I've seen the Legacy issue which ends with Xavier ousting Sinister and declaring he needs to speak to Scott. Is the follow-up issue around yet?

[identity profile] likeadeuce.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, that's possible? I haven't read it since it came out. Marvel's left hand never knows what the right hand is doing; sometimes even when both hands seem to belong to the same guy.

Nope, that's the most recent issue. I'll be sure to let you know when the new one's out!

[identity profile] resolute.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I do really like Fray -- it's not perfect, but I think most Joss fans haven't read it because its original release was so hideously delayed.

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I know that's a main reason I haven't read it earlier. But I was delighted to find the collection in London, and really impressed once I've read it.

[identity profile] neutralalienist.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, now I need to go read Fray again. I loved it the first time; it's all about shades of grey and sacrifices and responsibility, and generally ripping your heart out. Oh, Boo.

I really liked how Erin was written - she didn't always make the right choices, but you could see where she was coming from, and she really did care about her sister. I like to think they're doing well together after the end.

...Now I have the urge to write/RP one of them again.

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I really liked how Erin was written - she didn't always make the right choices, but you could see where she was coming from, and she really did care about her sister. I like to think they're doing well together after the end.

Me too. If I were to write fanfic, which I'm NOT - *eyes Darth Real Life* - it would definitely be about Erin and Melaka.

[identity profile] sabra-n.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Now Sam only kills himself, no one else; Tim Price' idea of not coping with his reality and escaping to Narnia involves not just his own death but his wife's and child's, but isn't the emotional reasoning at least a tad related?

Yes! I thought the exact same thing, except I have no idea how the Gene/Aslan thing comes into it because Gene wasn't sacrificed/killed/whatever. It was Caroline Price who mocked him using words similar to that of the Witch, but it turned out she wasn't the evil parent. So yes, Narnia upside-down, perhaps. Alex has her child binding her to the "real" world, so maybe unlike Sam she'll go back.

[identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com 2008-08-06 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
It occurs to me there is also a theme of absent/deserting parents; Sam's father leaves him and his mother, of course, and Alex' father leaves in an even more drasting manner. You could argue that for both Sam and Alex, Gene becomes in some ways the replacement parent, and of course in Narnia parents are absent as well, and Aslan is there (but he is not a tame lion...). But Alex, as opposed to Sam, has become a parent herself, and she promised to return; if she were to remain in Narnia, it would continue the series of desertion/betrayal, and in order to break it, she has to return to the real world.