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selenak: (Carl Denham by Grayrace)
Guardians of the Galaxy: funny, entertaining, and nothing else, which is what it aims for. I can see what [personal profile] jesuswasbatman meant about it being "dumbed down Farscape", and agree with [personal profile] trobadora's longer review. At the same time: given how many movies are out there who aim for funny and succeed only in "cringeworthy", maybe we're too harsh on it, with its success on the pure comedy/parody level. Anyway: wasn't bored, left with a smile, have no urge whatsoever to watch it again or read fanfiction.

Much Ado about Nothing, Whedonian version: FINALLY I had the chance to watch this one, which Joss shot with a couple of his favourite actors as a way to relax from wrapping up Avengers two years ago. (And some of his former scriptwriters from BTVS, as it turns out; I spotted David Fury, Drew Goddard and Drew Greenberg in the credits for the wedding scene(s) crowd.) A great way to unwind, I must say. Sean Maher makes a surprisingly good villain - and his character usually feels like a vague pre study for Iago without the genius yet, so that was new. Not surprisingly, Amy Ackerand Alexis Denisof were great as everyone's favourite sparring lovers. Any Benedick and Beatrice pairing stands or falls whether they can make the transition from the admission of love to "kill Claudio" , and they can. This is also a production that goes with the "Beatrice and Benedick had a short fling before the play" interpretation caused by such lines like "you always end with a jade's trick, I know you of old" - "You have lost the heart of Signior Benedick" - "Indeed, for he lend it me a while, and I gave him use for mine, a double heart for his single one" etc., so much so that it starts with a silent "morning after" scene, which means the actual first scene between Beatrice and Benedick feels like the two are compensating for not wanting to admit it had actually meant something to them because it didn't seem to mean anything to the respective other. (And then it hit me: Joss made it into anothe post coital morning after disaster scene, his specialty!) It also means them getting convinced that the other does care later on feels less like a revelation and more like a release.

My favourite Much Ado remains the Branagh one but all the Dogberry and Watch portions in it make me cringe. (Michael Keaton, argggh.) Not helped by the fact I don't find the Watch scenes funny when reading the play, either. (Don't care for embarrasment humor generally.) But Nathan Fillion and Tom Lenk - and Whedonian editing, I suppose - made them somehow not cringeworthy for me. Understanding the Miami Vice parody sunglasses probably dates me. :)

The general endless cocktail party conceit with everyone getting more and more sloshed worked for me. There was no getting around the one big clash between modern day dress and content - Hero's virginity being a big deal to everyone -, but at that point I had suspended my disbelief long ago, plus Clark Gregg managed to make Leonato, whom I always disliked for his turning against his daughter in the first wedding scene, come across as torn between love and rage with love winning out physically if not verbally even before the Friar manages to calm him down.

And lastly: seems Fritz Lang's masterpiece M is re-released in Britain right now, and the Guardian thinks you should watch it. I think so, too - it's my favourite Lang movie by far -, but I found myself grumbling at the Guardian critic and the commenters that a) the police isn't presented as "incompetent" and an allegory for Weimar polticians just because they can't catch a serial killer until the grand finale (the leading inspector became such a favourite that Lang brought the character back in his second Dr. Mabuse movie), and b) no, it's not "foreshadowing the crumbling of the Weimar Republic and the Nazis". The Nazis were already very present on the streets in 1931 when Lang shot the film, having almost daily clashes with the Communists, and neither party is present in this movie. (If you think the criminals organizing into a hunt for the pedophile killer are meant to be Nazis because some are a) wearing trench coats, and b) speaking German, pray remember neither would have been unusual for a German audience in 1931, who hadn't gone through Hollywood aesthetizing the Third Reich into certain images.) I strongly suspect somewhere some editor dictated you can't sell a German movie to an audience if it's not about Nazis somehow.

What I agree about with the Guardian is that Lang's direction (and use of sound - this was his first sound movie, and as opposed to many a silent movie director he really embraced and used the new medium in very creative ways) is outstanding, and that Peter Lorre gives a fantastic performance. Incidentally, while the daring turnaround in audience sympathy during Lorre's monologue at the trial is justly mentioned as the movie's standout scene by not just this but every critic writing about "M" ever - and btw something I can't imagine in any current day movie about a serial killer of children -, no one seems to remember the actual final scene of the movie (a silent sequence showing us the grieving mothers of the dead children), which is a shame, because through it Lang achieves balance and ensures Lorre's big scene is earned by not forgetting the victims and their families.
selenak: (Ace by Kathyh)
Darth Real Life is after me again, keeping me busy. I hear the first episode of Capaldi!Doctor is going to be shown in cinemas the way the big anniversary episode was, and while Munich is bound to be among the cinemas in question, I shan't be there on the 28th of August; I'll be in Bamberg with the Aged Parents and thus confined to the small screen experience, alas.

Listing to all the Seventh Doctor audios recently put me in the mood for the Doctor and Ace again, and so I'm glad a commenter pointed me towards a fantastic story in which the Eleventh Doctor and Ace have an adventure together: Dragons of the Mind. It's based on tv canon only, uses the bit we hear about Ace and the other former Companions in a certain Sarah Jane Adventures episode and presents a plausible version of an older Ace, who is more mature but still very much herself.

Moving over to X-Men: The Consequence of Faith is a lovely exploration of just what may have motivated Mystique to perform a Logan-related action near the end of the movie, and touches on her relationship with Charles, always one of my favourite things about the prequels.

And lastly, not a fanfic, but it might as well be: The email Tom Hiddleston wrote to Joss Whedon upon first reading the Avengers script. Damm it, Hiddleston. You will not draw me into your cult, no matter how adorable and enthusiastic you are. It. will. not. work. I shall resist by thinking of how you are to blame for the Loki woobification. But damm, you're making it haaaaaard!
selenak: (Dragon by Roxicons)
Shakespeare:


There are many reviews of the Joss Whedon directed Much Ado About Nothing out by now - which we in Germany won't get to see for a while, hmph - but this is by far the most original and hilarious. In blank verse.


Hobbit:

We have a first trailer for the Desolation of Smaug. Comes with a lot of elves (Lee Pace has lines this time) and partial Smaug (but not voice of same). As I am not a Tolkien purist and enjoyed the first Hobbit film muchly, I am delighted.

Once Upon A Time:


Now has a rewatch community, starting their rewatch this weekend. Alas I will go abroad at the end of next week, for three weeks, no less, but I'll be able to discuss the pilot at least and then rejoin in a month.


That Sixties band I'm fond of:


Listen to John Lennon doing a hilarious Bob Dylan parody. (Bob did a Lennon parody, too, so you don't have to feel bad for him.:)


Orphan Black:

Naturally, I checked out the AO3 for fanfic. In additon to canonical Cosima/Delphine there's fanonical Alison/Beth; these seem to be the main pairings. As with every fandom, little gen. Here are the two vignettes I liked best so far:

Nameless : short but dense moment between Helena, Sarah and Mrs. S. Breaks one's heart for Helena all over again.


of lending existence to nothing : Alison portrait. Very bleak, but well written.
selenak: (Bardolatry by Cheesygirl)
Joss Whedon and the Much Ado About Nothing cast answer questions about the film. There are jokes (there would be with the Usual Suspects involved), but also serious discussion. I think the first time I came across the "Beatrice and Benedick had a brief fling in the past which ended badly and that's what Beatrice's cryptic line to Don Pedro refers to" was in the PR materiall for the 70s BBC production, though it's probably older, but I haven't seen a production using that theory since then, so I'm intrigued Joss goes with it. (So that you don't have to brush up your Shakespeare, here's the exchange that caused said theory:


DON PEDRO
(to BEATRICE) Lady, you have lost Signior Benedick’s heart.


BEATRICE
It’s true, my lord. He lent it to me once, and I paid him back with interest: a double heart for his single one. Really, he won it from me once before in a dishonest game of dice. So I suppose your grace can truly say that I have lost it.



Also, good point about Margaret and Borraccio.

*****

The Long Game is probably my least favourite episode of the first New Who season. (It's also my evidence a when people assume that if Christopher Ecclestone had agreed to more than one season, the Nine/Rose relationship would have developed differently - read: less cliquey - than the Ten/Rose did. Leaving aside the obvious Doylist rejoinder about the same writers involved either way, my Watsonian would be: Oh no, it wouldn't have, see: The Long Game.) However, I found this essay about it absolutely fascinating. Both for the background info - I didn't know it was based on a script the young RTD had presented in the 1980s to Andrew Cartmel! This means it was originally a story featuring the Seventh Doctor and Ace! - and for the analysis, which manages that incredible rarity in current DW fandom:

1) It's critical without ever devolving into attack and hyperbole.

2) It analyzes an RTD era (and RTD written) episode without even once mentioning Stephen Moffat, either in a positive manner ( a la "....but how much better the Moff did such and such") or in a negative manner (a la "...since then, we have experienced the likes of Moffat misdeed #11333"). Since the complete inability of a great many fans to talk about one era/writer without slamming the other is something that regularly drives me crazy, I value and appreciate it all the more.

3.) It does something I've otherwise only seen [personal profile] zahrawithaz do in Merlin fandom: take a weaker episode and analyze what works and what doesn't in a way that also analyzes larger narratives of which this particular episode is a part of.

In conclusion, very much worth reading.
selenak: (Bardolatry by Cheesygirl)
We now have a trailer for the Joss Whedon directed Much Ado About Nothing, aka the way he relaxed after directing The Avengers (by producing Shakespeare at his house with his favourite actors). I may have been squeeing at the sight of Alexis Denisof & Amy Acker as Benedict & Beatrice, but Agent Coulson as Hero's dad Leonato was also nice to re-encounter. :)

Speaking of enjoyable vids, [personal profile] stagbeetle has collected all the little webisodes Being Human has done this season around Alex trying to figure out her unfinished business with the help of Tom and Hal in one post. Chronologically, they're set after each broadcast episode, so the fifth one has really MAJOR spoilers for the fifth episode. (Meaning: don't watch them until you've already seen the fifth season so far.) They're both wildly funny and sometimes very touching, and made me more enthralled by Alex than ever. She's the best, and I'm going to miss her dreadfully when the show is over.

Link time

Oct. 23rd, 2012 07:44 am
selenak: (Scarlett by Olde_fashioned)
For some recent, in recent days I got more spam on lj than I got otherwise in five years. Are we due for another breakdown?


Until then, have some links, both fanfiction and meta:

Prometheus:


Persephone . It's post-movie fic by legendary-in-several-fandoms Yahtzee, developing the complicated relationship between those characters alive by the end of the film ), it's long, and it's layered. What are you still doing here instead of reading it?

Galaxy Quest:


The Headaches, the Heartaches, the Backaches, the Flops. Gwen DeMarco and the first rise and fall of Galaxy Quest. What I appreciate especially about the world buildling is that for all that Galaxy Quest obviously takes the majority of its inspiration from Star Trek, the fictional show is one of the late 70s (i.e. presumably, like the original Battlestar Galactica, made to cash into the Star Wars craze), not 60s as ST was, and this story remembers that. Characterisation wise, this is very plausible, giving us younger versions of the people we meet in the film, and catches the film's atmosphere perfectly in its mixture between funny and poignant.


Gone With The Wind:

Scarlett O'Hara meta. I love discussing Scarlett, and had fun doing so in the comments.


Sherlock, Elementary, The Avengers, Batman:


How not to act as part of the creative team, take one:


Jonathan Ross disses Elementary, Mark Gattiss agrees. Now my own take on this is that Sherlock for all its flaws is undoubtedly the more original and better written show, but so far I like Elementary more because it gives me leads and a relationship I can honestly cheer for. But even if I loathed every second of screen time Elementary ever broadcasts, I'd still consider this bad form, because the one thing you don't do is dissing the competition in public. It only makes you look petty and pisses off those fans of your show who enjoy both. Which brings me to:

How not to act as part of the creative team, take two:

Wally Pfister (cinematographer for Christopher Nolan) disses The Avengers, calling it "an appalling film". Again, obviously I'm biased (guess which superhero film I saw multiple times this summer and own the dvd of? Not The Dark Knight Rises), but that's not the point. However, luckily this particular dissing also caused a response that may serve as a lesson:

How to actually act as part of the creative team (especially as the head of one):

To wit, Joss Whedon's response, also quoted in the article I linked. He only said, when asked about Pfister's remark: “I’m sorry to hear it, I’m a fan.” Now I don't care if you think The Avengers was a waste of space, but this is brilliant, PR wise. It a) avoids pissing off fans of Nolan's Batman trilogy, who may or may not also like The Avengers, b) utterly avoids responding to Pfister's more specific criticism (about the camera angles used in The Avengers), and c) instead makes Whedon look modest and classy, and Pfister look even more petty and envious. The man hasn't been writing dialogue since decades for nothing.:)
selenak: (LondoGkar)
Clark Gregg, aka Phil Coulson ("his first name is Agent!", as Tony Stark would say), who also acts in the Joss directed Much Ado About Nothing (he's Leonato, I think), was recently interviewed and had this priceless exchange:

Q: So having done Much Ado About Nothing as well, are you now officially part of Joss Whedon’s recurring troupe of actors?

A: I don’t know. You know, we had a nice date, I hope I end up in a relationship with him.



Breaking Bad:

Exit Music : a great summing up of Walter's character arc through four and a half seasons.

Battlestar Galactica:

Whistling Past The Graveyards : Ellen and Saul Tigh on New Caprica.

Babylon 5:

If you've been in B5 fandom for a while, and definitely if you're into Centauri and Narn, you're probably familiar with the tale of how JMS wrote a prank script for Andreas Katsulas and Peter Juraskik in which G'Kar and Londo do the horizontal. Well, my glee knows no bounds because now it's online. (Before anyone says something, yes, that line about women being more forgiving is groan worthy, but hey, it was a prank script, not meant to be filmed.)
selenak: (QuarkDax)
Since Much Ado About Nothing, the Joss Whedon version, premiered at a film festival two days ago, the first reviews have been dropping in, and they are glowing. Clearly, filming Shakespeare with his favourite actors in twelve days is how Joss W. should spent all his spare time between big projects from now on. I vote for Richard III next, because it's going to take the BBC far longer to follow up The Hollow Crown with the York tetralogy, and also he can cast Enver Gjokaj as Richard. (Can't let have Alexis Denisof have all the leading roles, although, on second thought, why not? He still gets my vote for best male actor - other than the obvious ASH - to work with Joss Whedon.) (Sorry, James Marsters fans. He isn't bad. Just not in the same versatility department.)

Still on a theme of didn't-the-90s-give-us-some-fabulous-tv, since DS9_Rewatch reached the season 4 episode Bar Association, I had a lovely discussion about Quark. The "which fandoms to nominate for Yuletide?" debate has already started, which reminds me that during the last two years DS9 had been an option, and since it's an easy fandom for me to volunteer, I ended up getting two DS9 prompts in a row, with the result that one story which was supposed to be about Dax, Worf and Bashir ended up also starring Quark with as much page time as Bashir, and the other the other was basically How I Met My Ferengi: Odo's Tale. I'm going out on a limb here in guessing that if DS9 again makes the Yuletide cut and I again put it up as one of the fandoms I can write, my next Yuletide story will also include Quark. What can I say? He's just that irresistable to me.
selenak: (Skyisthelimit by Craterdweller)
You might have heard a bit of news that gave me a thrill: the tv series Marvel comissioned from Joss which I was resolved not to believe in until it's actually there starts to look more real by the day, since we now know it's going to be a S.H.I.E.L.D. series. In other words, [personal profile] samdonne, it's going to be the Nick Fury's People show you longed for after watching The Avengers.

There are no news yet as to which comicverse characters are going to be in it, which is why everyone is speculating. Personally, I'm hoping for my beloved Abigail Brand because Joss created her the last time he was in charge of a Marvel property, and since S.W.O.R.D. doesn't exist yet in the movieverse she has to get her early training somewhwere, doesn't she? I'm also hoping for Maria Hill, of course, though since I hear the actress has other obligations he might have to recast. Natasha sadly is out of the question given she's a hot movie property, and my guess is Marvel will want to keep Sharon Cartner for the Captain America films. But what about Mockingbird?


Here is a Joss interview about all things Marvel, in which he also gives a rare non-joking reply as to his thoughts about now having directed the third most successful blockbuster of all time:

I don't think it's a perfect movie. I don't even think it's a great movie. I think it's a great time, and I'm proud of it, but for me, what was exciting is that people don't go to see a movie that many times unless it's pulling on something from within, unless there's a need there. That's very gratifying.

Now whether like me you loved that movie to bits and watched it multiple times and still can't wait for the dvd or whether you feel the other extreme, that is an excellent definition.

Still Whedon-related, on the question as to whether Buffy should have ended with The Gift or with Chosen, I'm firmly on the Chosen side, and this wonderful meta details why.

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Another meta link: Why Doctor Who and ST: TNG can be friends. I wasn't aware there is a section of thought who thinks they couldn't. But then, I'm coming to the fandoms from the exact opposite corner than the poster, in that I was a Star Trek fan first (and specifically a TNG and DS9 fan) and only discoverd DW years and years later. (Also I like the Seven era better than she does.) Anyway, these are good and charming observations on both shows.

*****

By contrast, here's something vile. Not the actual post but what it collects to make a (gruesome) point. If you think the Skyler hate on tumblr is bad, apparantly it's even worse on twitter and facebook. Major, major trigger warning for rape and violence, not in the show but in the fannish reaction, but reading this collection of twitter and facebook posts - from this season, not from the start of the show, to make that clear - makes me seriously wonder whether Breaking Bad sets some sort of record of being the best show with the worst (vocal) fans. The introduction gives some spoilers for the first four seasons to create context. Just to get the horrible taste out of my mouth, I'm rewatching the epic Skyler-Walt confrontation scene from 51 now. (Aka why Anna Gunn should join Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul as an Emmy winner.) SPOILER for BB, season 5, obviously. (I'd link but then you'd end up with the YouTube comments, which are, again, vile.)

selenak: (Bruce and Tony by Corelite)
Darth Real Life is dodging my steps, so this is another short entry.


Fanfic rec:

Playground: absolutely delightful gen story featuring Bruce, Thor, Tony and the Hulk. As ever, the combination of [personal profile] penknife's writing skills with the Marvelverse is sheer win.

What-the-hell-do-I-call-this rec:

Now I'm actually not interested in how the various actors got into shape for their roles, but this body building website, in addition to having the training plan for the Chrises and RDJ, has a hilarious interview with the Hulk has transcribed by one Joss Whedon about his filming experience, starting thusly:

Q: You typically work on your own. How did you like working with your fellow superheroes in The Avengers?

Hulk: Puny avengers! They get in Hulk's way. Except iron one. Hulk like iron one: he's shiny and pretty in the sky.


Just in case we're in doubt whom Joss ships. :)

The entire interview shamelessly copied by yours truly under the cut )
selenak: (Brian 1963 by Naraht)
I blame [personal profile] naraht and some other people for this, I'll have you know. Also, the following is written with affection for all parties involved, so kindly avoid bashing any of the showrunners in question in your comments. (Making fun of same, otoh, is part of the purpose of this little exercise.)

So, recent conversations with [personal profile] naraht caused me me to wonder how various tv writers would handle biopics dealing with anyone from the i>Beatles and their circle - whom they'd pick, how they'd narrate the subject, what they would emphasize, and so forth. Here are my highly scientific conclusions.

1.) Russel T. Davies: writes the long overdue Brian Epstein biopic. In which there's unrequited and/or uneven m/m love several times over (Brian loves John Lennon more than John loves him, but on the other hand, Peter Brown loves Brian far more than Brian loves him), and various intense sex scenes, but the emotional core relationship is the platonic one between Brian Epstein and singer Alma Cogan. (Who also has a brief fling with John Lennon.) This causes part of the fandom to accuse RTD of selling out to the heteronormative majority and being a secret self loathing homophobe while also being a character torturing sadist, and that's before Brian actually dies in the third episode of the miniseries. To everyone's surprise, the breakout 'ship of the miniseries is neither Brian/John nor Brian/Alma, though both have their followers, but Brian/Peter.

2.) Stephen Moffat: writes The Ballad of Yoko and John, also a three parter, centered around Yoko Ono, narrated in a non-linear flashion with flashbacks and flash forwards. At first, there is much delight at his depiction of Yoko Ono as a strong, morally ambiguous (i.e. neither saint nor demon) and charismatic woman not taking crap from anyone (though this also causes hostility and accusations of smugness in another part of the fandom), but later on part of the initial hooray fades as accusations are raised that Yoko is just too obsessed with John and seems to have no life unrelated to him. Also, the fact that the subplot about the abduction of Yoko's daughter Kyoko by her second husband after a strong start has no emotional follow up whatsoever until Kyoko shows up again in the last flash forward after John's death comes in for strong criticism while the May Pang subplot (i.e. Yoko setting her up as a sexual babysitter John's mistress, then getting rid of her again) gets Moffat accused of vile sexism and the ruination of a strong female character.

3.) Joss Whedon: tackles the Beatles themselves. At first, there is much delight in fandom as it seems a perfect match - the one liners and quips fly, so do the puns, the somewhat dysfunctional family is formed, and as opposed to every other pic, this one actually uses the songs to convey something characterisation relevant. Then as relationships between our gang turn increasingly messed up, alienated and sour while romances end in tears and lovable sidekicks like Mal Evans are killed off, fandom concludes Joss is up to his old tricks. The man just can't stand permanent happiness, I tell you. The death of Brian Epstein in rude service of the plot to drive the Beatles apart loses him part of his following in the gay comunity, and the way he acts out his parent issues by not allowing anyone a complete set of nice parents (other than George, and his hardly show up!), even adding evil authority figures like manager Allen Klein (totally stereotype!) is seen as typical Whedonism.

4.) Ronald D. Moore: Ron Moore laughs at biopics or bio-miniseries and goes for a re-imagining of Yellow Submarine as a gritty war story tv series instead. The Blue Meanies are there. And they have a plan. As well as plenty of sex with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band while torching Pepperland. At first, this is greeted with much applause especially among people who considered the original film as way too cloying and cheesy, but they turn against Ron when it's increasingly obvious that the Walrus is behind everything and the Head!Eggmen are real.

Feel free to add your opinion on other showrunners and their Beatles related unfilmed oeuvres.
selenak: (Londo and Vir by Ruuger)
Finished my [community profile] queer_fest Babylon 5 story last night; it's off to be beta'd, but the posting date isn't until June 1st, so there's no hurry. Going back to the B5verse once in a while, and in this case specifically to the Centauri, with Vir at the center of it, feels like getting back into very comfortable worn slippers. Though due to the prompt I was actually able to do something with the Centauri that I hadn't done before, so - old slippers with new soles? (And now I'm nearly at Londo's dancing metaphor from s1, Great Maker, as he would say.) Anyway, the other reason why writing it, delving back into the B5 verse felt so great is that it was and as far as I know still is blessedly free of shipper wars. Of course, no sooner have I written this that I expect someone to tell me that I'm wrong about this and that I totally missed the epic battles between Susan/Talia and Susan/Marcus shippers, or the mighty war between John/Delenn and Delenn/Lennier shippers, due to not hanging out in the Ivanova or Minbari centric corners of fandom enough in my Centauri and Narn centric fannish life, but - I really don't think that's how B5 fandom spent its time, back in the day, or spends its time now.

(Every time I feel like growling "a pox on romance and our cultural obsession with it that poisons storylines and fannish discourse", though, I remind myself that I'm not immune, that there are romances both textual and subtextual I was/am rooting for and enjoy(ed), and that some of these are probably just as annoying or incomprehensible in their attraction to other people.)

(I will say that I remain eternally grateful Londo was not played by a hot young actor but the divine and decidedly middle aged, plumb and not at all pretty Peter Jurasik. It meant the "omg why so mean to the hottie!?!? Death score what death score?!? Must pair him with *insert character also played by young and attractive actor*!!" crowd stayed away from what is still my favourite fall and redemption storyline on tv.)

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With two movies about to be released and a third finished with an uncertain release date, Joss Whedon seems to get interviewed basically everywhere you turn. Now love him, hate him or remain utterly indifferent, but one advantage the man has is being eminently quotable (not many writers who can write witty dialogue are also able to make it up on the spot, so I'm suitably impressed). My favourite quote from the current crop of interviews is probably:

Q: You've been said to encourage fanfiction. How do you feel about scholarship about your work and the fact that academics tend to delve quite deeply into it, perhaps to the point of publishing interpretations you did not intend?

A: All worthy work is open to interpretations the author did not intend. Art isn't your pet -- it's your kid. It grows up and talks back to you.


He's always been consistent about this, which makes the "Let's take *character X*/*show universe Y* from the evil/incompetent Whedon" or "Joss needs to learn fannish interpretation is so superior" posts feel a bit like teenagers casting themselves as daring and rebellious when their parents, far from forbidding them to go out, are in fact encouraging them to stay up until dawn and make their own experiences. It's not something inherent or original to Whedonverse fandoms, of course, but something I've observed everywhere, though not every creator or people-in-charge-of-fannish-source-copyrights are as laid back about fannish discourse. And nothing feeds the fannish sense of outraged moral superiority so much as a creator/author/person-in-charge-of-copyright who gets possessive/protective of their characters (and extremer cases is silly enough to get into arguments with reviewers on message boards, looking at you, Aaron Sorkin). They are the man, we are the true, far better artists and interpreters of *insert character/fannish source*, and, that golden stalwart of posts, "should just shut up".

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Speaking of interactions between fannish interpretations and their source, in the last few days a tumblr containing hilarious fictional Hillary Clinton texts has been linked all over the internet. With the results that Hillary Clinton saw it as well, made a submission of her own and invited the two fan creators to meet her. Which they did. It occurs to me that if the online media are anything to go buy (always a qualified if), Hillary in the years of the Obama presidency has ended up as the most popular (living) Democrat politician. Which I don't think would have happened had she won the primaries and become President (not least because a sitting President even in a best case scenario is bound to disappoint some expectations of their electorate), but there it is. Not a bad note to go out on, if she really retires after her current term.
selenak: (Old School by Khalls_stuff)
A whole bunch of them, courtesy of your train travelling blogger who despite loving to travel at this point just wants to rest for the weekend with some nice things to read and watch.

The Avengers:

Joss Whedon interview about directing The Avengers. Some key aspects that stood out for me: 1.) talking about working with established characters (and actors). See, one of the reasons why I'm optimistic about The Avengers is that the last time Joss worked with established characters (plus a few self created ocs who then went on to become established Marvel characters other writers used as well), in a universe he didn't create and where he was limited in the storytelling choices, it resulted in the fabulous Astonishing X-Men. Basically, having editors is good for him.:)

2.) I wasn't surprised most of the questions were about Tony Stark and Steve Rogers. My favourite Joss reply relates to the oeuvre mentioned above, for when asked how he wrote a straightforward, non-edgy hero like Cap, and wasn't that untypical for him, he said:

I love a straightforward character. I am the guy who loves Cyclops on the 'X-Men', because he is square. [Captain America] is a little square, and he is aware that he is a little square, and he is aware that the world is a beat ahead of him, or in his case, 70 beats. I think that's very disarming and very charming. I relate to that guy.

(Reminds me that the last time I really really liked Scott was when Joss wrote him, btw; the successors went too far in the dark!Cyclops direction though I haven't read X-Men comics for a while, and maybe that has changed again.)

3.) Now, if you've watched more than one Whedon oeuvre, you might be famliar with something of a recurring Joss motif, and no, not the daddy issues, though it's a bit related. It's his distrust of organizations and "the man", and yet awareness that if you're long enough successful as a rebel, you become the man, you do have that responsibility. Guess what he brings up about Nick Fury?

Well, he is not going to be talking about his childhood, and you do want to keep a certain mystery. Also -- and this is something that I was very pleased that Marvel actually mandated -- they were very interested in keeping him, not just in the sort of a mystery of how the organization operates, but a real moral gray area where you really have to decide, "Is Nick Fury the most manipulative guy in the world? Is he a good guy? Is he completely Machiavellian or is it a bit of both?" And that was really fun to tweak. I felt that in the other movies, they had been cameos and he had been called upon to come in and be Sam Jackson and bluster a little bit. And I told Sam upfront that my big agenda was to see the weight on someone who is supposed to be in control of the most powerful beings on the planet. The weight on somebody who has to run the organization and the gravity of it.



Sanctuary:

Now that I've clocked three seasons, I feel reasonably safe to watch vids without getting spoiled, so imagine my delight when penknife recently posted this one:

My Freeze Ray, which is Nikola Tesla and Helen Magnus to the tune of Joss Whedon's Dr. Horrible. (Here's your elegant connection of subjects.) The lyrics fit scarily well. :)

Doctor Who:

The Christmas Special Trailer. It's titled The Doctor, The Widow And the Wardrobe, and apparantly after having a go at Dickens last year, Moffat now takes on C.S. Lewis and Narnia. (Incidentally, I think the TARDIS-as-Wardrobe comparison must show up in a thousand metas through the decades.) I am simultanously intrigued and slightly scared, because on the one hand, the Moff is good with children, on the other, there is much potential for fail given the meeting of the questionable subtexts that could occur, and I'd rather have a special to enjoy and not a mighty internet flame war to follow around Christmas.

David Tennant wrote the introduction for Elisabeth Sladen's postumously published memoirs, and here he reads it, with that continuing unabashed endearing fanboy adoration you can see in all their scenes together in School Reunion. Oh, Ms. Sladen, I miss you, too.
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Ever since the news of the Joss Whedon Much Ado broke, there have been all kind of delightful interviews with the actors involved. Now, one of the few who aren't from the Jossian pool of actors from shows past and movie present were the comedy duo BriTANIck, aka Brian McElhaney and Nick Kocher, who play two of the watchmen (and thus have their scenes with Nathan Fillion); they were interviewed by a Shakespeare blog, and their replies were fun to read, until my mind came to a grinding hold when they were asked about favourite Shakespeare play, favourite villain, and Shakespeare character who Joss Whedon is most like:


Nick: I'm a huge Shakespeare fan, it's really hard to narrow it down. I'm a big fan of Julius Caesar (I really want to play Marc Antony someday) and Othello, but my favorite scenes are in King Lear and Henry IV pt. 1. My favorite Shakespeare villain is Richard III.

Joss's Shakespeare character: Henry V, he's charming, fearless, and having worked with him once we would happily follow him into war with France. If Henry V was alive today, Firefly never would have been cancelled.


...

Okay then, thought I, are you saying Joss is a guy with daddy issues who ditches his friends as soon as they become inconvenient, gets a sadistic glee from messing with the minds of people who like him and leaves the big messy production he started in a chaotic and increasingly bloody state once he withdraws dies?

....

Well, okay, except for the friends bit. (I think even die hard anti Whedonians have to admit that he's very loyal indeed to his writers and actors. No "I know thee not, old man" from Joss.) Also, I suspect the truth is that Nick simply doesn't connect Hal from Henry IV with Henry V., but I still am cheaply amused by this comparison. Not to mention I doubt Hal/Henry would have saved Firefly. He'd more likely revealed he was on Rupert Murdoch's side all along and become CEO of Fox himself, going on to finance Roland Emmerich making a tv show out of Indepence Day instead.

Speaking of Joss, the [community profile] buffyversetop5 this year was as always Spike heavy, but there was one post full of stories about my girl Darla, and I found a fantastic one I hadn't known yet: Devouring Time. In which Darla visits Tanzania in 1969. Which is very familiar to me, so I loved the premise alone, but the execution is sublime. A great Darla character portrait, and the use of location is sublime.

(I did read one of the Spike recs, this hilarious comparison between canon Spike and fanon Spike, which made me wish the author would write this about various other fanon woobies such as Snape.)

Location is of course one major reason why Middle Earth as filmed by Peter Jackson came across so spectatular in the LotR movies, and I was both nostalgic and filled with anticipation after reading the latest Hobbit set report.

For real?

Oct. 25th, 2011 10:28 am
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At first I thought this was a big practical joke and/or a fannish prank, but apparantly it is for real: Joss Whedon used his spare time (?) between Avengers directing to film Much Ado About Nothing at his house with various of his favourite actors from pretty much every show he ever was involved with. *blinks* I remember first hearing about the Shakespeare readings with the actors chez Whedon in the later Buffy and Angel days; for example, according to interviews he got the idea for Illyria through them since the Shakespeare revealed Amy Acker's range.

Cast thoughts: I remember how mainly but not only disgruntled Wes/Lilah shippers bashed not only Fred the character but Amy the actress through much of s4 and s5, getting sometimes really vicious and personal about everything from her legs to her voice... until Illyria showed up, at which point the Amy bashing stopped. Along with the cries of "no chemistry", because while Wesley and Fred might not have had, Wesley and llyria did. Then Amy Acker enjoyed herself as a villain in Alias' fifth season, which impressed people further, and while Dollhouse had a mixed reception for very good reasons, everyone seemed to agree she was outstanding there as well (one of many problems of the show being that everyone proved to be more versatile than the lead, but AA in one of the supporting roles was very good indeed). So I have no doubt she'll do justice to Beatrice. As for Alexis Denisof, it remains as big a mystery to me as to everyone else why his career didn't take off after his outstanding performance through Angel's run, and I am utterly unsurprised that Joss gave him the leading part for this one. I always found the guards scenes the only parts of Much Ado I don't enjoy, but Nathan Fillion might make Dogberry not just bearable but genuinenly amusing to me. And I'm looking forward to Sean Maher as Don John. Am very amused to learn that after ASH had to drop out (he was supposed to play Leonato), Joss stole Clark Gregg (Agent Coulson to you, if you've watched the Iron Man films and Thor) from the Avengers set and gave him the part. And Andrew Tom Lenk! I can see Reed Diamond as Don Pedro, and am amused the other Dollhouse alumnus, Fran Kranz, who on that show played possibly the most twisted form of that Whedon archetype, the babbling gleeful fanboy, gets to play everyone's most disliked lover (aka Claudio - at least I never met anyone who likes Claudio, though I hasten to add there might be Claudio fans out there... somewhere).


In other news, I won't write a proper review of the latest Three Musketeers (it, err, is what it is), but as it was filmed partially in my hometown and surrounding areas, I shall include a few remarks on what location ended up being what. Not least it causes much amusement and cheers every time the film is shown in a Bamberg cinema.


Steampunk France = Franconia in Bavaria, with spoilers )
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The other day, when reading a recent Jane Espenson interview-plus-portrait, it occured to me that there is a reverse mirror phenomenon going on. Remember when back in the day, as Joss Whedon himself pointed out, Marti Noxon was blamed for all that was unpopular about Buffy while Joss was credited with all that fans liked?

...well, you know, I haven't seen a single review of Caprica that mentions Jane Espenson. I have seen a lot that mention Ron Moore. (And only Moore.) Especially the critical ones. The thing is, Jane was the headwriter and showrunner of Caprica. By all accounts, this was her baby. She had complete creative freedom. If Moore was involved at all, it was via suggesting the spin-off to begin with, but not otherwise; his name is in the credits the same way Glen Larson's was on BSG (i.e. "executive producer" as in "created the original universe and thus is duly credited", not producer as in "actually supervises the show"). This is not something that was kept secret until now; back when Caprica was launched, Jane Espenson did most of the usual promoting interviews etc.; she continued to do so until the show was cancelled. So - why is she utterly absent in any fannish discussion of Caprica?

I think the answer is obvious, and as I said, the reverse phenomenon from the Joss 'n Marti thing. At the time BtVS' sixth and seventh season was broadcast, Joss was at the height of his popularity. This is no longer so, but back then, he basically could do no wrong in much of fandom's eyes, so given that Marti Noxon was now sharing the executive producer credits and had taken over a good deal of active show running, anything that was perceived as negative was blamed on her. Now Ron Moore became a controversial figure, to put it mildly, even before BSG ended. Jane Espenson, on the other hand, has been a fannishly beloved writer throughout her Jossverse days, for her mixture of humour and geekishness (and from the Buffy/Spike quarter also because her scripts tend to be among the most B/S-friendly). Her initial episodes on BSG were less well received but this was blamed on the general tone of the show (and Moore's showrunning), not on Jane. To be fair, also later well-received episodes such as The Hub by and large were seen in an overall BSG context rather than as something Jane E. specifically brought to the show. Even The Plan, which already had her not only as scriptwriter but co-producer, was primarly reviewed, both negative and positive, as a Moore product. Okay, he was still showrunner. (Along with David Eick, but it's Mr. Eick's lot, it seems to be invisible. Back when he co-produced American Gothic it was all Shaun Cassidy, too.) But Caprica, as I said, is Jane through and through, so the way it's still seen as a Ron Moore thing seems to me indicating the desire to blame someone who is not the person still fannishly loved.

(Incidentally, this does not mean I want to read anti Jane Espenson rants. Caprica was a mixed product - my take on it is basically what [profile] abigail_n wrote, see link a few weeks back - but it had a lot of interesting elements. I loved some of her BSG episodes and was left indifferent by others. Which, you know, it's possible to say without liking Jane any less.)

To sum up: once fandom found a target for their ire, it doesn't matter any more how accurate or inaccurate this is.

Going back to the profile of Jane Espenson which sparked these thoughts, she's currently working for Russell T. Davies as one of the writers for Torchwood's fourth season. (What do you want to bet that whether said fourth season will be as amazing as I hope or an RTD failure, his will be the only name mentioned in fannish discussion, btw?) This presumably means she is not dependent on good old Moore (or Joss) for her daily bread in any capacity anymore, so the following statement about her time as a BSG writer versus her time as a Caprica showrunner would be free of the need of keeping the boss in a good mood:

She worked for Ronald D. Moore, whom she ranks among the best show-runners she's had."Ron was wonderful," Espenson said. "His ability to grasp things and know things so quickly and so decisively what will work is amazing. We gather around a cell phone and call him to pitch a story, and he would be in an airport somewhere and would just sit there and listen, and I'm thinking, 'oh, there are so many things we're leaving out.' And he'd just start saying, 'OK, I like it. Here's what you need to do,' and he would start rearranging scenes to make it work. (...)
(W)hen SyFy network executives offered her the job of show-runner for a spinoff called "Caprica," she went for it. In her own words, it was her biggest mistake. The job lasted a year, and the show was cancelled last fall. Espenson took it in stride and says she realizes that the demands of being a show-runner stretched her abilities. As a self-proclaimed control freak, she found that she was controlling all the wrong things. Although she's extremely proud of the show and is happy to launch into praise for those who worked on it with her, it's hard not to notice the rare moment of raw personal reflection that gives insight into the Espenson mind. "That's exactly why I wasn't a good show-runner," she said. "I'm too honest about my fears, so I just did it again. That's the biggest mistake I've made in this interview."
But don't buy it just yet. Espenson is a woman who knows what she does best.
"I think I'm a really, really good writer, which sounds awful, but I feel strongest when I have my fingers on the keys," Espenson said. "Projecting confidence and having the whole big vision thing in your head and knowing how to balance other things, that is all stuff I never bothered to learn."
She hasn't written off the idea of running another show some day, but she freely admits that next time, she'd do it differently. "I think there's a way to run a show when you learn how to delegate the bits you don't do well," she says. "I'd do it again if it were the right project, but this time I'd have more partners around me."
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01. If you'd like, comment to this entry saying 'ICONS!' and I will pick 6 of your icons.
02. Make an entry in your own journal and talk about the icons I picked!

[profile] astrogirl2 gave me the following:
Icons, those icons... )
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Name your five favorite geniuses - evil or otherwise - from any fandom.

This is trickier to answer then you'd think. Because of the "genius" part. Take my beloved Arvin Sloane from Alias. I think he's brilliant, both in the sense of him being a great character and him being very clever indeed, but I don't think he's smart on a genius-level. Now if the criteria were "mastermind" instead of genius, I'd name him immediately. (Same goes for Irina Derevko, or the Empress Livia. Or Lost's Ben Linus.) On the other hand, Doctor Who's Master, whose overcomplicated plans fail far more often than Arvin Sloane's do, does qualify as a genius, due to being able to invent a number of gizmos for which one does need genius-level skills. (Including one made out of food when he has amnesia and thus not even access to his Time Lord memories.) Then there are characters who are geniuses and whom I like, but not in a "I really love them to bits" manner; for example, River Tam from Firefly, and as it's sympathy but not love for her, I can't name her in good faith.

After much to and thro, I came up with these choices:

1.) Marshall from Alias. Aw, Marshall. Whether it's presenting Sydney with favorite song compilations after two years of absence, whipping up entertaining plot-needed MacGuffins, or delivering his best Jack Bristow imitation ("the name is Bristow, Jack Bristow" from Tuesday is one of my all time favourite Alias moments) when confronting villains, I just love him.

2.) Tony Stark (Iron Man, both comics and film). I completely blame [personal profile] likeadeuce for this, as she made me wildly curious about this Stark character about a year before the movie came out, which meant I read up on some comics at the very time he was one of the most unpopular characters in the Marvelverse, which meant I was way more intrigued than I would have been had he been universally loved. But yes, Tony, and his messed up ways.

3.) The Master (Doctor Who), or to be more specific: Delgado!Master. I mean, love Simm!Master, too, but am only mildly sympathetic to Ainsley!Master on his good days, and in some stories I do dislike him (and not just in the sense that he's the villain anyway). And we don't talk about Erik Roberts. Crispy!Master is interesting in his last pre-Ainsley appearance but not so much in The Deadly Assassin. So, with the Master, my fannish love is very period-specific - i.e. Third Doctor Era and New Who, and when I had to choose one, it would be the Roger Delgado incarnation for sheer suaveness and charm.

*footnote: while with the Doctor I really can't limit myself to one incarnation - I more or less love them all, though some less then others. Also, the reason why I avoided putting the Doctor and the Rani on this list is that I wanted to limit myself to one character per fandom.

4.) Hank McCoy (X-Men): how can one not love Hank? Witty, kind, extremely versatile and, after his secondary mutation, one of the most visibly "other" of the X-Men, which makes for great angst in stories without making it all the character is about.

5.) Joss Whedon. (There was no "fictional" in the question, folks!) Has given me three shows I love passionately, a comic I adore (his AXM run), and other output that I like or dislike in varying degrees but which never bores me and most often makes me think. Can write songs in addition to witty dialogue. Is most definitely evil. In conclusion: does qualify.
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The Remix/Redux 7 ficathon is open for signing up! It occurs to me that rebooting a franchise (whether it's BSG or Star Trek) basically operates on the same principle said ficathon does. Which is why I can't get worked up about the talk of the owners of the Buffy movie rights wanting to cash in on same by wanting a Joss Whedon-less, Scooby-less and Buffy-less reboot. I mean, I think the first utterances sound like a dumb idea because they manage to miss a lot of what made BTVS appealing. (There is a reason the show took off in a way ye olde movie did not, and it's not the lack of Rutger Hauer overacting.) It's not meant as straight horror, the post-modern banter and send-up was quintessential to the premise, and so were the friendships and the other characters. Also, it's far too soon - just a measly decade, with everyone's memories of the show and its characters very vivid. But you know, I really enjoyed Fray (aka Joss' story of a Slayer several hundred years in the future), so the idea of telling the story of a new Slayer, in a completely different surrounding, with new characters to relate to and fight against, in principle isn't something I'm opposed to.

This is as good a place as any to mention my position on the comics, because I've also seen the "the comics are such a travesty, so it's a good thing Joss isn't involved in any movie" argument. Basically, the BTVS comics didn't capture me so I don't read them, but neither do I feel a need to rail against them or generalize about J.W.'s post-Firefly work. It really depends on the item in question. I loved Fray, his first foray in comics; the BTVS comics left me indiffirent, which didn't really surprise be because after seven years of writing for a particular ensemble and a particular world, any writer is bound to have run out of ideas; by contrast, I absolutely adored his run of Astonishing X-Men, and again, didn't surprise me that Whedonian writing for characters he hadn't been writing for since years would feel much more captivating.

Dollhouse? I'm mostly with [personal profile] likeadeuce in seeing it as both interesting and ultimately a failure, though this might change. My biggest problem with it wasn't actually the skeevy premise, because as opposed to many an indignant post I think the show does acknowledge it, and uses the word "rape" clearly and several times; it was the discovery that Eliza Dushku seems to be a one trick pony, acting wise, which is especially glaring because the actors playing the other regular dolls really pull off some amazing stuff here, which combined with the fact that so far, the writing hasn't managed to make Echo/Carolyn that compelling, either leaves you with a black hole as a main character. I think it's not coincidentally that the writing in the second half of the season, which really is quantum levels above the first, centers on everyone but Echo. Here's what I'd do if I were in charge of the second season, not that I think it will happen:
1) Get rid of the credits sequence. It's really inexcusable.
2) Decide whether you want Ballard to be a critical deconstruction of a male hero (which he was for most of the season except the finale) or a genuinenly heroic character, but most crucially
3) Swap leads, if you must have one at all. The actress for Sierra is ever so much better than Dushku, and Sierra herself, of all the dolls, has the strongest reasons to bring the dollhouse down.

What I'd do and what I think will actually happen: follow-up on the "what is the true purpose of the dollhouse / who uses the kind of power that allows complete identity destruction/construction and how do they use it on the large scale, if the dollhouse is just a deflection and a matter of income earning?" question. Which I do find interesting, but I'm not sure such a narrative emphasis will also mean the end of gratitituos episodes like Target, because that's what the network pays for.

Lastly, a personal heresy: I think Adelle DeWitt is more compelling than Lilah Morgan as a take on the noir villainness. I also find the difference in reception telling because it is directly connected with what makes the show both problematic and interesting (with so far the problematic outweighing the interesting, though not in the case of DeWitt): Lilah's brand of corporate evil was safely in the fantasy realm. Wolfram and Hart pimped girls to rich vampires in the very first episode of Angel (one reason why I was never as sympathetic to Lindsey getting scruples apropos of blind children was that he evidently did not get them apropos of teenage girls), but vampires don't live in the reality of the viewer. When Lilah sets up an abused girl to repeat her abuse experience so she can exploit her as an assassin, that abused girl is a telekinetic, and she's currently interacting with another vampire. When Lilah orders people killed, beheaded or mindwiped, or feeds a father the blood of his son, it's still all in a fantasy context; there is the safety net of the audience knowing it could never possibly happen to them. Whereas the dollhouse technology that allows complete identity changes might be sci fi, but barely so; so what Adelle DeWitt does to people hits much closer to home. Which, btw, is one of the reasons why I find her more interesting. The other is that on the one hand, she mostly, but not completely believes her own propaganda, and I find villains who consider themselves the heroes of the story always more intriguing (Adelle is so the "the Corps is mother, the Corps is father" type, if you allow me the B5 comparison) than villains like Lilah who do the proverbial moustache twirling, albeit in Lilah's case elegantly); but on the other hand the narrative (so far) manages to show her vulnerabilities without making them excuses. If I do continue watching in s2, it'll probably be mostly for Adelle DeWitt.

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