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[personal profile] selenak
Toby Whithouse! You're back - and despite the occasional objection to some of your Being Human narrative decisions, still my candidate from the currently involved writers to take over from Moffat. BH icon used in your honor.



Maybe I'm misremembering, but I think this is the first time in New Who that an opening two parter is followed immediately by another two parter. Not that I object, but it was completely unexpected. Mind you, the cliffhanger manages to both effective - great chilling final image - and not, given we know they won't kill off the Doctor. Though it occurs to me that since obviously the Doctor can't really be dead and a ghost, that means Meron (spelling?) who got ghostified in the teaser might still be alive as well. (Not Pritchard the greedy company man, though, on screen drowning doesn't leave much room for ambiguity, unless you're the heroine's love interest. (*waves at Michael Vaughn from Alias*) )

Back to the beginning: I wonder whether the Doctor's sudden concern re: Clara displaying his own adrenaline junkie tendencies is some sort of preparation for an eventual exit? Not that it's coming out of nowhere, Clara-as-Doctor was a big thing last season, as was his feeling very torn about this on at least one occasion. I like our ensemble of the week: making Kas a deafmute (I'm not sure whether this is the correct term in English, if not, I apologize and want to learn the right one) who communicates via sign language as well as in charge of the group was a great idea, though I agree with [personal profile] jesuswasbatman, logically her entire team should be able to use sign language, not solely one of them, for security reasons alone, and the obvious Doylist reason for this is that unless you're Joss Whedon writing and directing Hush, you don't get to do mostly silent episodes on tv.

Kass and Lunn are the two most fleshed out so far (other than Pritchard the late), but I expect since the team split up and the yet minor lines part ended up with the Doctor, they'll get more to do the next time.

The use of the Faraday cage was clever both on a Doylist and Watsonian level: although in retrospect it was clearly set up, I didn't see the Doctor's idea of trapping the ghosts there coming, which is how it should be.

"Someone stealing souls" of dead people for a complicated tech scheme and nobody, neither the Doctor nor Clara, mentions Missy? I mean, I don't expect it to be her, not so soon after the latest attempt (the Master usually varies his gambits), but after last season's arc, either of them should at least consider the possibility.

Speculation: the Doctor is actually in the suspended animation life capsule/coffin; the "ghost" whom Clara et al are seeing in the cliffhanger is a holographic projection, the way Clara herself was to trap the ghosts earlier. Maybe that trip back in time with the TARDIS to find out what happened will even be what inadvertendly makes the other space ship crash in the first place, that's the kind of timey-wimeyness the Moff likes.

Question: why didn't the Pritchard!Ghost kill or hurt Lunn? That was so pointed that it may figure in the eventual solution of the mystery. (Can't be because Lal didn't see the writing on the wall (literallly, he did - unless I'm misremembering?.)

All in all, a good part I of an adventure. Bring on part II!

Date: 2015-10-04 02:49 pm (UTC)
lonelywalker: Peter Capaldi as The Doctor (pcap)
From: [personal profile] lonelywalker
Going by the episode titles, I think all the episodes this season may be two-parters. Although I may be totally mistaken.

I think Kass was the only one not to see the writing. Maybe they didn't kill Lunn because they already had the four "transmitters" they needed. But if that was the case, why follow any of the crew at all? I feel like having two crew members who know sign probably has plot relevance (rather than just being some good representation). Something about how knowing languages also rewrites your brain? I assume that verbal languages and sign languages are processed in different ways by the brain.

It's possible Kass can speak, but strongly prefers not to? Or there's sufficient technology to translate for them all in an emergency?

Date: 2015-10-04 03:39 pm (UTC)
felis: (clara and twelve)
From: [personal profile] felis
Lunn was the only one who didn't see the writing, that's why they didn't kill him. Cass kept insisting that he shouldn't go inside the ship because it was too dangerous; he complained, but did indeed stay outside.

I like your speculation that it's the Doctor in the capsule, definitely makes the most sense so far.

Favourite line of the episode: "If I die, at least you know I really will come back to haunt you all."

Date: 2015-10-04 05:26 pm (UTC)
lonelywalker: Peter Capaldi as The Doctor (pcap)
From: [personal profile] lonelywalker
Oh really? My mistake. So that would make sense.

Date: 2015-10-04 05:48 pm (UTC)
felis: (clara and twelve)
From: [personal profile] felis
No random killing, yes, that would undermine their goal. But maybe it's some kind of sensor to detect if the person has already been affected by the writing - they stared very attentively at Clara and the Doctor at the beginning before leading them to the ship. Because so far, none of the ghosts has shown any kind of left-over personality, so it doesn't look like there is some kind of individual consciousness left. Since there has been a lot of talk about electromagnetic effects and the like, it wouldn't surprise me if they were some kind of projection after all, coming from ~extracted brain energy patterns~ or something. If the Doctor figures that out at some point in the past, he might be able to project his ghost!image while still being alive, maybe to tell Clara and the others something, because they conveniently divided the group so that the person who is able to read lips is left with Clara. /wild speculation
Edited Date: 2015-10-04 05:49 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-10-04 06:23 pm (UTC)
jesuswasbatman: (BZZZZZZZZZT!)
From: [personal profile] jesuswasbatman
The Doctor did refer to the Nethersphere (Missy's fake afterlife) in his speech rattling through all the other kinds of ratinalised "ghosts" he'd encountered.

Date: 2015-10-04 06:24 pm (UTC)
jesuswasbatman: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jesuswasbatman
There's a recent DWM comic story in which a mentally-destructive and infectious visual memetic weapon turns out not to work on dyslexic people.

Date: 2015-10-04 11:41 pm (UTC)
kalypso: Raising his eyebrow for a week (Dr Capaldi)
From: [personal profile] kalypso
I checked the line on a rewatch: he lists various possibilities he's ruled out (I didn't write them all down but I think Flesh avatars and Autons featured) and concludes with "They're not digital copies bouncing around the Nethersphere."

Date: 2015-10-07 04:30 am (UTC)
nenya_kanadka: thin elegant black cartoon cat (DW Mistress Master green)
From: [personal profile] nenya_kanadka
I think you'd just call Cass a deaf (or possibly Deaf) woman in English. "Deafmute" is pretty much out of fashion/considered insulting these days.

And I was totally delighted to see her (yay deaf characters, even though I don't sign myself) and that she was the team leader (how often do you see that!?) AND that she's not dead yet! I really hope the guy who died first isn't really dead, because killing the black guy first is no good. But this was a fun episode. Loved all the stuff with language and transmitters and so on. Also Pritchard totally had it coming, heh.

I was a bit surprised at the sudden two-parter, but that means more next week with these characters, so I can't complain.

Date: 2015-10-07 04:31 am (UTC)
nenya_kanadka: thin elegant black cartoon cat (DW Mistress Master)
From: [personal profile] nenya_kanadka
I was watching with subtitles and yeah, he mentioned Autons and Flesh avatars and possibly something else, and the Nethersphere, which I thought was a good callback.

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