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I've seen a review of this movie titled "Putting the 'suffer' back in 'suffrage', and there's truth in this, though I wouldn't necessarily see this as a negative, not least because what visual depictions of the fight for the female right to vote I've seen tended to consist of the occasional upper class suffragette in someone else's family narrative, and both scriptwriter Abi Morgan's focus on working class women and just how badly their situation was feels fresh and very welcome. Otoh I do have some criticism of my own, but it's about other issues.



The movie's main character, Maude Watts, and the two most fleshed out supporting characters, her friends Violet and Edith, are, or so a quick check via google assures me, all fictional; the very much historic Emily, by contrast, hardly gets anything character-establishing to do until the climactic scene of the movie when she becomes a martyr, and that is a problem. To be honest, I had expected Maude to ahistorically become the one to die in that scene, both because the movie seemed to build up to it with its "Passion of St. Maude" structure (I don't mean this in a snide way, but as an honest observation - Maude goes through hardship after hardship and comes out stronger much in the way of a morality play of old, or a saint's story) and because Emily was such an nonentity before. Also because no review I had read before had given more the impression that Maude would survive the movie.

Which she does. Maude is played by Carey Mulligan (Violet: Anne-Marie Duff; Edith: Helena Bonham-Carter), who does a great job showing Maude's transformation from "keeping my head down to get by" to activist unbroken by horrendous losses. Maude basically goes through everything any suffragette ever suffered (kicked out by husband, loss of child, loss of job, social ostracism by former circle, beaten by police, forcefed in prison), but none of this stuff is something that didn't happen to people at the time, and it's a good reminder that the struggle didn't just consist of carrying banners.

However, Abi Morgan had one basic narrative problem with the tight temporal focus she chose (on the years 1912/1913), and it is this: British women didn't get the vote then. As the final credits tell us, British women over 30 and of a certain income got it in 1918/19, and all British women didn't get it until 1928. (This really surprised me; I had assumed they had gotten the (unlimited) vote directly after World War I, as women did in Germany and Austria.). (For that matter, the credits tell us the first country where women got the right to vote was New Zealand in 1893.) (Why so far behind, Britain?) And the First World War and its fallout really was the deciding factor here, but this movie can't tackle it. Otoh the movie wants to provide some sense of triumph and achievement at the end after all the struggle and thus declares that the enormous publicity and considerable sympathy Emily's death on the racing track got turned the tide to achieving the right to vote, that this was the first event that alerted people on a global scale to the struggle for the female right to vote (with all due respect to the dead Emily, I don't think the women in Russia, who got the vote way before any Englishwoman did, ever heard about this). And while we're at historical distortions in order to achieve a smoother narrative, there is no mention at all of the fact that in 1912, about 40% of British men didn't have the right to vote, either; someone like Maude's husband Sonny (played by Ben Wishaw) who works in the same laundry she does, would not have had it. There was a minimum wealth qualification: men had to prove they were paying at least £10 rent a year or held £10 worth of land. After the war, it was felt that it would be unacceptable to continue to deny the vote to men who had just served in the trenches. The Representation of the People Act 1918 enfranchised all men over the age of 21. (It also gave the vote to women over 30 who were members of the local government register (or were married to a member), owned property, or were graduates voting in university constituencies. The rest of the women, as mentioned, didn't get the right to vote until 1928.)

This of course doesn't make the injustice towards women in 1912/13 any lesser, but you'd think someone (Sonny or the copper played by Brendan Gleeson who tries in vain to recruit Maude as a spy on the movement) would bring it up in an argument, yet no one does.

Emmeline Pankhurst, played by Meryl Streep, has only a cameo appearance in which she holds a speech, though she's constantly talked about both by the women and their police men who harrass them. She's basically a figure of inspiration, not a character in the movie. I've seen some criticism that this doesn't show Ms. Pankhurst ran the movement "as tight as a dictatorship", as a negative description goes, and that there's just one line mentioning the difference of opinion between Sylvia Pankhurst and her mother and sister (Christabel), but this movie never claimed to be a Pankhurst biopic, and to someone like Maude, Emmeline P would only have been someone she saw from afar and mostly heard about. Given that the way the movie tries to stay away from the usual "Great Historic Person Achieves Social Change Single Handedly" fallacy many narratives about activists involved in historic changes fall into, I think it's a justifyable narrative choice.

The only named politician on the government side of things is David Lloyd George, at the time Chancellor of the Exchequer. Presumably he gets the name check (and the character establishing scene early on in which at first he appears to listen to our heroine describe her awful work situation with understanding and sympathy and then lets her and everyone else down by reading out the PM's declaration that there was no cause for female suffrage) because it's his house that gets blown up later on, and Abi Morgan wanted to make sure that a) the audience knew who he was, and b) wanted to give them cause to think he had it coming (after letting our heroines establish the house is empty at the time of the bombing). (The copper later tells Maude that the housekeeper was unexpectedly on her way back to the house and would have gotten blown up if she'd arrived two minutes earlier.). So far, so scriptwise understandable, but it amuses me a bit that the actual Prime Minister at the time, Herbert Asquith, who was far more anti-female vote than DLG, doesn't get as much as a name call when one of the most prominent actresses of the movie, Helena Bonham Carter, is a direct descendant.

Speaking of whom: following the rule that when she is cast outside of her Burton formed Goth girl persona, she's excellent, I found her very good here as Edith the pharmacist who also has the sole consistently supporting husband of the movie characters.

Let's see, what else: the movie makes it clear that Maude's boss at the laundry has sexually preyed on her and many other women, and that he's now moving on to Violet's 14 years old daughter Maggie, without actual sex scenes or naked women. That all the workers are so used to this that it doesn't even occur to anyone, including Violet when she gets fired (for her political activities), to protest against this, is an additional gut wrenching circumstance. Maude finally (and satisfyingly) explodes at him, but only after being fired herself.

Emily's last words, reciting the movement's slogan "never surrender, never give up the fight" unfortunately can't help associating Galaxy Quest these days ("Never give up, never surrender!"), which makes me wonder whether the Galaxy Quest scriptwriters knew their suffragette history.

Date: 2016-02-11 10:35 am (UTC)
ratcreature: Say no to creatures (& women) in refrigerators. (refrigerator)
From: [personal profile] ratcreature
I had mostly seen complaints about this movie that it erased non-white suffragettes in particular the Indian women's suffrage movement which apparently overlapped with the UK one through Indian women activists.

Date: 2016-02-11 11:19 am (UTC)
legionseagle: Lai Choi San (Default)
From: [personal profile] legionseagle
I've done quite a lot of research around the topic of the suffrage movement in Great Britain and it seems that two of the big reasons women didn't get the vote much earlier were the Queen and the Liberal party. Because of the property qualification aforementioned, any existing extension of the franchise on the existing terms (or a facsimile of them) would, Gladstone calculated, succeed in landing the Conservative party with a windfall of newly enfranchised voters, whereas any attempt to extend the franchise along the lines adopted in 1928 which would have abolished the property qualification for men and women both would have been a nightmare to get through Parliament, probably been stymied in the Lords, and, after about 1905 or thereabouts, have (if passed) landed an electoral windfall to the nascent Labour party. So it was in the Liberal Party's best interests to keep talking the talk about how of course votes for women on some sort of limited basis were a good idea in principle, just not yet (in order to keep the more radical end of their working class male support sort of happy.) So there were a long, long string of lies and broken promises from 1881 (which was a high spot in the suffragist campaign; women got the vote in local elections and the Isle of Man went all out) right up to the great War.

Disraeli had been more sympathetic (the 1867 Electoral Reform Act arguably enfranchised women on a point of interpretation but the resulting lawsuit - Chorlton v. Lings - went the other way) but his personal relationship with the Queen who was vehemently opposed to women's suffrage meant he couldn't do anything too overt.

There was also a lot of splitting in the ranks between the militant WSPU who were fighting on a single issue and the various suffragist bodies who were fighting for more generalised social reforms.

Date: 2016-02-11 03:02 pm (UTC)
muccamukk: Peggy holds a pencil between her teeth and studies a clipboard. (Cap: Preoccupied)
From: [personal profile] muccamukk
Yeah. I don't know about this movie. It seemed to hit all the beats, but I couldn't really get into it. The acting and music were good, and I should have been totally behind it, but eh.

I have read that women were quite close to getting the vote in 1913, but that the government basically asked them to put it on hold for the war, and they did, with promise that they'd get some kind of vote after, which did happen, but that's very difficult to show in the confines of this movie. They did all the work! Then... waited for five years.

Date: 2016-02-11 07:01 pm (UTC)
percysowner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] percysowner
I remember watching the miniseries Shoulder to Shoulder about women's suffrage in Great Britain. It was a good series from 1974 that has been pretty well forgotten about. However some nice person has posted it on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbgZ2kPbqWc , if you're interested.

Date: 2016-02-12 03:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] watervole
It's shame that the suffragists often get overshadowed by the suffragettes. Less in the eye of the media, but may have made more of a difference overall.

Date: 2016-02-13 09:13 am (UTC)
legionseagle: Lai Choi San (Default)
From: [personal profile] legionseagle
Extensive "God has a plan and a sphere for everyone" thinking, I believe:

I am most anxious to enlist everyone who can speak or write to join in checking this mad, wicked folly of 'Women's Rights', with all its attendant horrors, on which her poor feeble sex is bent, forgetting every sense of womanly feelings and propriety. Feminists ought to get a good whipping. Were woman to 'unsex' themselves by claiming equality with men, they would become the most hateful, heathen and disgusting of beings and would surely perish without male protection."

Date: 2016-02-13 09:27 am (UTC)
legionseagle: Lai Choi San (Default)
From: [personal profile] legionseagle
Yes, I agree. Let's hear it for Lydia Becker and Millicent Fawcett and Esther Roper and Eva Gore-Booth and Ada Nield-Chew and Elizabeth Wolstenholme Elmy and Selina Cooper and all the other women who tramped out and got signatures on petitions and stood on street corners in terrible weather and campaigned for electoral candidates who promised to help and who then stabbed them in the back once they got into Parliament.

Date: 2016-02-13 09:28 am (UTC)
legionseagle: Lai Choi San (Default)
From: [personal profile] legionseagle
The Pankhursts were almost like the Mitfords in their own way; after the vote Christabel went moral purity, Adela went Fascist and Sylvia devoted herself to the cause of Ethiopia.

Date: 2016-02-13 09:39 am (UTC)
legionseagle: Lai Choi San (Default)
From: [personal profile] legionseagle
Actually, a great many working class women disliked the militancy of the suffragettes because it was much harder for a respectable working class women to stand the stigma of going to prison or even of appearing in court than a middle-class woman, a point which Esther Roper and Eva Gore-Booth made forcibly in a letter to the WSPU at the time when they split from it over militancy, in 1905/6 or thereabouts. Of course, working women found it harder to be away from their families and their husbands still expected them to cook and clean and childmind, which isn't really consistent with being in jail being forcefed, so with a relatively few exceptions such as Annie Kenny the militants did tend to be either middle or upper class. The suffragist campaigning by working class women tended to be via the women's unions, particularly the textile workers (a suffrage petition signed only by women textile workers in the Lancashire cotton mills achieved nearly 30,000 signatures when it was presented to Parliament in 1901) or the Cooperative Movement.
Edited Date: 2016-02-13 09:39 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-02-13 12:45 pm (UTC)
percysowner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] percysowner
Well shoot! If they don't want to release it on DVD fine, but why hold onto it so no one can see it.

Date: 2016-02-14 01:49 am (UTC)
kalypso: (Manchester)
From: [personal profile] kalypso
Not releasing it on DVD is not fine! Some of us have been waiting years for Shoulder to Shoulder to become available. I was rather hoping that this film might be the catalyst for releasing it... I suppose if they're trying to keep it off YouTube there is some hope.

Sian Phillips is my One True Mrs Pankhurst.

Date: 2016-02-14 02:47 am (UTC)
percysowner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] percysowner
Oh, don't get me wrong, I would love for it to come out on DVD. I watched it on PBS lo these many years ago and it's one of the best portrayals of the British suffrage movement ever made. I just don't understand why, since they have adamantly refused to release it, why they don't allow it up on YouTube. Heck they could put it on YouTube to gauge if people want to see it. But no, they'd rather bury it.

Date: 2016-02-14 03:07 pm (UTC)
kalypso: (Vote)
From: [personal profile] kalypso
Well, of course she does. Who else could one possibly have cast? Patricia Quinn is Christabel, Angela Down is Sylvia, and Georgia Brown is Annie Kenney. Oh, and bonus Fulton Mackay as Keir Hardie.

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