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selenakComment with one of my fandoms, and I'll tell you:
the character I least understand
interactions I enjoyed the most
the character who scares me the most
the character who is mostly like me
hottest looks character
one thing I dislike about my fave character
one thing I like about my hated character
a quote or scene that haunts me
a death that left me indifferent
a character I wish died but didn’t
my ship that never sailed
the character I least understand
interactions I enjoyed the most
the character who scares me the most
the character who is mostly like me
hottest looks character
one thing I dislike about my fave character
one thing I like about my hated character
a quote or scene that haunts me
a death that left me indifferent
a character I wish died but didn’t
my ship that never sailed
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Date: 2017-04-21 03:50 pm (UTC)interactions I enjoyed the most: Oh good lord, tough choice, because I enjoy so many combinations, from our central pairing onwards. Also it depends on my mood. But one of my favourite types of interactions certainly were Claudia's with both Elizabeth and Philip during the first two seasons. (Her few appearances afterwards are more to give Gabriel someone to talk to so the audience knows what he thinks/feels.) The tenseness, the mind games, and yet the fact that Claudia in her way actually meant well: loved it.
the character who scares me the most: Ronald Reagan in his regular cameos on Elizabeth's tv screen. I was a teenager in the 80s, visiting the US for the first time. He was like the clown of It to me, on a political level.
the character who is mostly like me: oh goood lord, no obvious candidate comes to mind.
hottest looks character: Of the women, Nina. Of the men, Gregory.
one thing I dislike about my fave character: well, leaving aside obvious rl disapproval for murder and life ruination, Philip can be infuriatingly passive-aggressive.
one thing I like about my hated character: I don't really have one on this show. I mean, I didn't like Agent Amador in s1, and wasn't keen on Vasily, either, but neither emotion was hate exactly. It's rare for me to hate a character (though it happens). I certainly didn't and don't hate Irina, I just wish her story would make more internal sense.
a quote or scene that haunts me: Henry in s2, after his regular break-ins are discovered: "I'm not a bad person!" And his parents just look at each other, because they tell themselves that on a regular basis, but...
"If Ronald Reagan is climbing up the walls of the Rezidentura in his cowboy hat, then you may disturb me." I miss you, Arkady.
The entirely silent scene of Philip pulling Elizabth's broken tooth out sans anaestetics in season 3 deserves some award for best and most intense fucked up sex scene without sex. Or something. It demonstrates the utter trust they have in each other (and that's partly physical) as partners, while at the same time underlying how screwed up their entire situation and they themselves are due to it.
a death that left me indifferent: General Exposition from early s1. The effect it had on both Elizabeth and Claudia was powerful, but he himself in Elizabeth's flashbacks was profoundly boring, only ever spouting platitudes. See, Frank Llangella as Gabriel is so much better at the paternal-yet-manipulative-yet-is-he?!
a character I wish died but didn’t: no one comes to mind. Not least because the death rate on this show is high.
my ship that never sailed: well, when I was writing my story about Charles (the reporter from s1 and 2 who is one of Philip's recruits), I was toying with the idea of including some messed up sex, but then I didn't, so...
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Date: 2017-04-21 04:20 pm (UTC)interactions I enjoyed the most: Well, Atia/Everyone - all hail Polly Walker for taking what could easily have come across as a cliché like Juvenal at his most misogynistic would have written and making her a three dimensional woman -, but for sheer surprising development, Atia and Octavia, starting out on such a dysfunctional note and becoming each other's true support. Antony/Vorenus for the slash factor, I admit it. I've rewatched the early s2 scene where Antony pulls Vorenus out of his stupor by hissing very closely into his ear and the scene late in s2 where Vorenus helps Antony commit suicide... quite a lot.
the character who scares me the most: see, Pullo: warm-hearted teddy bear, absolutely. Also the guy who beats an unfortunate slave to death because the man has the misfortunate to be loved by Eirene, and the man who throttles a woman who is dying already and then throws her body into the garbage despite the years she's been devoted to him. Yes, she did just confess to having murdered Eirene. But, see above: Pullo murdered Eirene's beloved, and still expected Eirene to forgive him. When that man's temper is unleashed...
In general, Octavian. Smart kid, budding Mafia Don extraordinaire becoming less and less human as he grows in power, which btw is how I see Augustus, far more than the bumbling patriarch from I, Claudius.
the character who is mostly like me: None, I hope.
hottest looks character: Atia and Antony, step forward. No contest.
one thing I dislike about my fave character: Atia: forever unable to see anyone else's pov. Not just those she's feuding with. Misjudging her kids at key points and not getting Antony's reaction to the suggestion of selling Caesar out comes to mind.
one thing I like about my hated character: I have a long standing dislike to good old Augustus but always was frustrated that historical fiction which portrays him negatively usually ignores his very real accomplishments and smarts. So Rome not just proclaiming him intelligent but presenting him as such in a show, not tell manner worked really really well.
a quote or scene that haunts me: "Atia of the Julii, I call for justice." All the curse scenes (the other big one that immediately comes to mind is Vorenus cursing his children, but there are others) are incredibly well done because the characters utterly believe, and thus the audience shares their shudder. And in this particular one, on a Watsonian level Servilia and on a Doylist level Lindsay Duncan is pulling all the stops here. Servilia has lost, but yet manages to turn that defeat around one last time by going out in this particular manner. There is absolutely nothing Atia can do or say to counter this strategy. As Antony concludes: What an exit.
a death that left me indifferent: Cato. Cicero, otoh...
a character I wish died but didn’t: No one comes to mind.
my ship that never sailed: nothing comes to mind, either.
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Date: 2017-04-21 04:44 pm (UTC)interactions I enjoyed the most: It's a tough choice, because I'm an ensemble girl, but... in the end... I have to pick Flint & Silver. From the moment Flint asked back in early s1 what made Silver think he'd remain alive post-finding the Urca and Silver replied that at this point, Flint won't want to kill him anymore.
the character who scares me the most: Ned Lowe in early s3, utter psycho that he was, even among pirates.
the character who is mostly like me: I uncomfortably suspect I shared a few traits with "truth is boring" teenage girl whom Jack meets at the Guthries' when I was her age...
hottest looks character: hm, another difficult choice. Men, Flint, through all seasons. Women: depends on my mood, but either Max or Miranda.
one thing I dislike about my fave character: well,
one thing I like about my hated character: don't have one as far as hate is concerned (I mean, Lowe creeps me out as well he should, but he's not around long, and that's true for what's his name, Beringer, in s4 as well), but as opposed to much of fandom, I'm not crazy about Charles Vane despite appreciating what he brings out in Jack, Anne and Eleanor. (Oh, and his scenes with Flint were all good, too.) And I wouldn't have wanted to miss him on the show for as long as he was there. As for what I actually like about him, other than what he brings out in others: his moment with the dying Spanish soldier was one of those rare times when I felt actually warm about it.
a quote or scene that haunts me: the scene mid s2 where Silver for the first time figures out what makes Flint tick, i.e. that Flint actually minds being thought of as the villain. "It must be awful, being you." Summing up the man's psychology in a nutshell. On another level, the big reveal scene, the flashback of Thomas kissing James intercut with present day Flint and the book. And Anne's "I can't be your wife, Jack. But we're gonna be partners until they put us in the fucking ground."
a death that left me indifferent: They tried to make Rogers' sidekick from early s4 a bit human just before his death, but he was such a one note Evil Officer otherwise that I felt neither triumph nor regret.
a character I wish died but didn’t: Hm, no one comes to mind.
my ship that never sailed: well, we don't now that a Flint/Madi/Silver threesome didn't happen, so...
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Date: 2017-04-21 05:15 pm (UTC)interactions I enjoyed the most: Anakin and Ahsoka, no question. Next to that, Leia & everyone. Also, I feel that sometimes Mark Hamill is underappreciated for the way he completely sells me on Luke really truly wanting to save his father, despite having spent two movies fighting him with very good reason; that the Vader and Luke scenes impacted me emotionally as much as they did is, in retrospect, largely due to Hamill. By now, I've seen a lot of people in a lot of movies and shows trying to save a fallen-to-the-darkside friend/relation/lover, and it often feels stale and cheap, but this was the first example to me, and like I said, it really had an impact.
the character who scares me the most: "I love democracy. I love the Republic." Prequel Palpatine until he gets disfigured and promptly hams it up in true OT style again is such a scarily plausible politician and autocrat persuading people to hand over their rights to him. (V.v. contemporarly, alas.) Which scares the hell out of me. BTW, one thing I think The Clone Wars never quite managed, because their Palpatines, both actors voicing him and the visuals, are too obviously creepy. Ian McDiarmid can do creepy and does, of course, but he also can do warm so you can see why Amidala listens in The Phantom Menace, why the Jedi are fooled, and why Anakin (beyond the flattery) feels so drawn to him.
the character who is mostly like me: I have no idea.
hottest looks character: The new trio looks mighty fine, all three of them.
one thing I dislike about my fave character: Just one? With Anakin Skywalker? Um...
one thing I like about my hated character: Well, there's hate as in "why is this character even in this story and/or so stupidly presented" and there's Palps' brand of boo-hiss villain whom this particular story needs and who is there to be hated. Let's just say none of the villains in the new movie(s) have impressed me so far. Hux and Kylo Ren come across as fanboys cosplaying Tarkin and Vader and doing it rather badly. I withhold judgment about Snoke until we see more than a bad GCI, because Palpatine wasn't more than that two movies in, either. Oh, and as opposed to much of fandom, I never hated Jar Jar, so it's not him, either.... wait! I've got it. Darth Maul. For being unable to die. I'm still not really on board with that Clone Wars resurrection.
a quote or scene that haunts me: Well, obviously the original "I am your father", so often imitated ever since, but still, I shall never forget how it felt to watch it unspoiled. Also, Leia with "someone has to rescue us" rewritting the rules for women who are rescued in action movies and never looking back. And Ahsoka putting her padawan beads back into Anakin's hand. So painful and yet so right.
a death that left me indifferent: Jyn Ersa's mother, because I kept being angry with her and the writers. It was so pointless and stupid for her to show up instead of hiding away with her daughter and live to rescue her husband another day, and so obviously there so Jyn in the present would have only one parent to angst about.
a character I wish died but didn’t: Did I mention Darth Maul? Who died, alright. Unfortunately, he got better.
my ship that never sailed: I have no idea (yet) how the Dr. Aphra solo title is doing, but...could she have an angry fling with Leia at some point?
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Date: 2017-04-21 05:43 pm (UTC)the character I least understand: Frustrating, they often were. But this wasn't the type of show that made it difficult to understand what everyone's motivation was supposed to be.
interactions I enjoyed the most: the show usually delivered on the Musketeers banter and friendship moments, and really did well by Constance (including, btw, the married couple interaction between D'Artagnan and her in s3, blessedly free of fake angst inducing disagreements), both in her friendship with the other Musketeers and in her scenes with the Queen. But I would cheat if I didn't admit that I loved Richelieu & everyone in s1 a bit better, and that the scene with Anne and Milady near the end of the show finale made me hunger for fanfic about their relationship from this point onwards, because it's such a terrific premise and both actresses play it really well. But of course no one writes the Milady: Queen Regent's Agent tales, she pouts.
the character who scares me the most: Well, Rochefort was so over the top vile and predetory that he stopped being scary quite soon.
the character who is mostly like me: I never can find a reply to that question.
hottest looks character: Men: Porthos. Women: Milady.
one thing I dislike about my fave character: he gets unceremoniously killed off and is followed by lesser villains because he needed to regenerate into a Time Lord. Also he's a ruthless bastard, but that's part of the reasons why I like him.
one thing I like about my hated character: well, Rochefort provides Milady with a reason to team up with Our Heroes, so that was useful.
a quote or scene that haunts me: from an episode which I actually more disliked than not, 1.07., but: the last scene therein between Richelieu and Milady was, I felt, the best they had together. It was such mutual ruthless honesty without being hostile and had an almost Marlowian "Why this is hell, nor are we out of it" dimension.
a death that left me indifferent: well, not so much indifferent as incredibly relieved he finally wasn't on my view screen anymore, but obviously: Rochefort.
a character I wish died but didn’t: Nope, can't think of one who didn't buy it.
my ship that never sailed: I was okay with the pairings we got on the show, mind, but: could totally see an AU where D'Artagnan dies in the war with Spain and Porthos and Constance end up as an item. She'd have been a rich widow by then, too! *Dumas in-joke*
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Date: 2017-04-21 06:57 pm (UTC)interactions I enjoyed the most: Good lord, so many combinations of both regular and guest characters, it's really hard to narrow down. I will say that the sibling relationship between Buffy and Dawn in s5 really resonated with me.
the character who scares me the most: of the one episode only monsters, the Gentlemen, no question about it.
the character who is mostly like me: possibly Wesley Wyndham-Pryce, which I find extremely worrying, given how his life ends up being, and the decision he makes.
hottest looks character: Women: Faith or Cordelia. Men: Giles. No wonder Dru was "in the moment" when hypnotizing him.
one thing I dislike about my fave character: my favourite character in the early seasons was Cordelia and after her departure for Los Angeles became Buffy herself, who is now also my favourite overall character in the show. Buffy can be pretty self-centric, but the show always points that out, and it's part of her flawed-and-real humanity. Still, it can certainly rub the wrong way.
one thing I like about my hated character: haven't really got one on this show. I mean, I object to Caleb because he's a really lazily written caricature to provide some post-Firefly employment, but that's not a strong enough emotion to call hate. And I feel appropriate dislike to, say, Quentin Travers. But again: wouldn't call that hate.
a quote or scene that haunts me: "I'm going to be a fireman when the flood comes in." Restless in totem is such an amazing episode, but the scene between Buffy and "Tara" in the desert especially keeps coming back to me.
a death that left me indifferent: Sorry, Director Flutie. No one deserves that, but I actually felt more for Snyder being eaten by a snake, possibly because I knew him better.
a character I wish died but didn’t: Can't think of anyone.
my ship that never sailed: you know, back when BTVS was broadcast I kept being frustrated that other than the few brief scenes in AtS 1.03., we would never see Angel and Spike interact again, due to them being on different shows. There was history! A lot of it! And then, of course, once the show was over, we got AtS season 5 which felt like Kita's Angel/Spike stories come to life minus the graphic sex, so there was that. :)
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Date: 2017-04-21 08:39 pm (UTC)the character I least understand: Four. Seriously, the Fourth Doctor is the most inaccessible one to me.
interactions I enjoyed the most: of a 40 plus years canon? One & Barbara, any Doctor & the Brig, Three & Delgado!Master, Five & Peri & Erimem (in the Big Finish Audios), Six & Evelyn (also from the audios), Seven & Ace, Nine & Sabe, Ten & Donna, Ten & Sarah Jane, Eleven & River, Ten, Eleven & the War Doctor in the big anniversary special (John Hurt: just perfect), Twelve & Clara, Twelve & River.
the character who scares me the most: one word: Midnight. The sequence in wich the alien in Sky makes the Doctor mimic her is incredibly scary. Everyone's actions in the bus even more so.
the character who is mostly like me: pass.
hottest looks character: Men: Oddly enough, while Nine isn't my favourite, Ecclestone as the Doctor is the one with the most physical magnetism for me. Women: River.
one thing I dislike about my fave character: Donna's dogged determination is endearing when she's tracking down a mystery or saivng the world. That same determination, showcased in the flashback montage re: her courtship of Lance, makes one cringe on her behalf even before the reveal of how cruelly he played her once he pretended to be interested. But it's the same trait. So it's not that I dislike it in Donna, it's just that I wish she wans't occasional tone deaf to when to apply it.
one thing I like about my hated character: really couldn't stand Roberts!Master in the movie of doom and more often than not disliked Anthony Ainsley!Master - I didn't regain my Delgado-caused affection for the character until the double package of Jacobi and Simm showed up -, but: Ainsley always remembered the Master has no sense of personal space when it comes to the Doctor (any of him). And Roberts, um... well, we just pretend that didn't happen.
a quote or scene that haunts me: "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, where the sea is asleep and the rivers dream; people made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold. Come on, Ace, we've got work to do." Perfect last words added at the last moment to the last episode when they found out Doctor Who had gotten cancelled in the 1980s. Sums up the series beautifully.
a death that left me indifferent: Ainsley!Master dying in Planet of Fire. (Well, it's the Master, so "dying".) It's because of what he did to his victims earlier, I think, combined with lacking (imo, as always) charm or magnetism.
a character I wish died but didn’t: Can't think of one.
my ship that never sailed: Well, I've written a manifesto of how Doctor/Bessie was the one rival Doctor/Tardis ever had, but Bessie's problem in the competition is that she only ever encountered Three, Four and Seven. Clearly, both RTD and the Moff missed out a trick when they didn't use the Doctor's renewed contact with UNIT to let him reunite with Bessie for various chase sequences.
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Date: 2017-04-21 09:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-04-22 04:26 am (UTC)interactions I enjoyed the most: Garak/Bashir gave me my first slash ship. ((I was a young, young
the character who scares me the most: the Prophets. I didn't like them much before, but the Sarah Sisko backstory settled it,and it remains one of my few pet peeves with DS9 that they not only created this backstory but had Sisko react with no stronger objection than "huh!" to finding out his biological mother was mindraped into giving birth to him.
the character who is mostly like me: in this fandom, I actually have a reply to this one: Jake Sisko.
hottest looks character: Men: Garak, to me, anyway. Women: Jadzia Dax.
one thing I dislike about my fave character: My favourite used to be Garak and now is Quark (the shift happened at some point during the last decade or so); either has his objectionable points, but I can't say I dislike these about them. (For example: of course I object to attempts at genocide, and think the show should have made more of it than just let Garak off with a slip on the wrist when he tried to wipe out the Founders in the s3 finale. But it made complete sense for him from his pov to do so, and was a reminder Garak was trained and active for years as a ruthless agent in an expanding fascist state, and isn't a misunderstood nice guy. Or: Quark really can be a horrid boss, whether or not you're related to him. The show correctly points this out. Would he be Quark if he treated his employees and family members fairly from the get go? He would not. That's what we have Rom and Nog for.)
one thing I like about my hated character: the non-linearity of the way the Prophets experience reality was a cool concept in the pilot, but the show didn't remain consistent about that.
a quote or scene that haunts me: "I can live with it." Perfect ending of THE shades of grey episode in a shades of grey show. For sheer hilarity, see the dialogue in my icon. Also: "That man loves me. It's written all over his back." (The last thing Quark ever says about Odo.)
a death that left me indifferent: that of Sisko's never before seen supposed best buddy from the past who shows up in The Maquis from s2. Eddington was so much better later as a take on the "Starfleet officer joins the Maquis" trope.
a character I wish died but didn’t: Have I mentioned THE PROPHETS yet? she asked, her eyes glowing in ominous red.
my ship that never sailed: no, I didn't expect Garak/Bashir to become canon. (Those were the days where the Jadzia/Lenara kiss in Rejoined caused a mighty uproar.) But of course, in my headcanon, Bashir moves to Cardassia post-war to help Garak with the rebuilding.
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Date: 2017-04-22 05:30 am (UTC)interactions I enjoyed the most: At their best, both the first and the second trio were great fun and heartbreaking at different points. I also adored George/Nina (except in early s2 for plot reasons), and Hal & Tom throughout.
the character who scares me the most: I've always said Mark Gattiss is a far better actor than writer, and his s4 character is a case in point. Creepy to the max.
the character who is mostly like me: pass.
hottest looks character: Men: Though I fancy Aidan Turner in other roles, here he does nothing for me, and Russell Torvey while having a fine shape in many a naked scene as George just elicits too much protective urges to be hot. So: Hal. Women: Alex. Definitely.
one thing I dislike about my fave character: Nina can show a tendency to withhold key information because she's brooding on it (being turned werewolf, finding out about Mitchell's massacre), and it would have been better if she'd brought it up to the parties concerned point blank. Emotionally, I can totally understand why she didn't out of the respective situations, but there it is.
one thing I like about my hated character: the way s3 actually dealt with all the problems I had made me feel mostly pity by the end for Mitchell (the hate was when I thought the show would sweep what he did in s2 under the carpet and expect us to feel sorry for Mitchell for it), but even at a time when my dislike boiled, I had to admit Mitchell is trying more often than not. Also he's capable of genuine kindness towards people he doesn't fancy; always a plus.
a quote or scene that haunts me: "There is something poisonous in you that has nothing to do with being a vampire." The entire scene between Nina and Mitchell in The Longest Day was amazing.
a death that left me indifferent: can't think of one supposed to move me which didn't.
a character I wish died but didn’t: when s2 ended, I was very annoyed they'd ressurected Herrick, whom I hadn't found v. interesting a villain in s1, but I was wrong. His s3 appearance turned out to be a narrative masterstroke, and the actor was awesome.
my ship that never sailed: I don't know whether you've seen the webisodes which included Alex going through her list of possible unfinished business. In this wonderful example, she defends her choice of "kissing Robert Downey Junior" among the unfinished business, and Word of God has it she actually did that (though not on screen, because obviously Being Human couldn't afford RDJ cameo. Ever since, I've wanted someone to write a Being Human/Iron Man crossover. *g*
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Date: 2017-04-22 09:24 am (UTC)Buffy & Dawn in Season 5 is one of my very favourite relationships on the show as well.
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Date: 2017-04-22 12:38 pm (UTC)interactions I enjoyed the most: Vanessa and Malcolm, Vanessa and John Clare/The Orderly, Ferdinand Lyle & Ethan.
the character who scares me the most: The head (no pun intended) doctor at the institution Vanessa was in. This is because he wasn't presented as an evil mustache twirling sadist who got off on torturing helpess people, but as someone who sincerely believed he was helping Vanessa. Which scared me way more than a sadistic stooge like, say, Sir Geoffrey Hawkes. Follow-up: Evelyn Poole in the reveal of all the baby entrail holding dolls she has in her basement.
the character who is mostly like me: pass.
hottest looks character: The show offers them aplenty, but Eva Green is a goddess, so, unquestioningly, Vanessa Ives for the women. And the show made me realize I find Timothy Dalton in his old age 10 times hotter than I ever did when he was young, so I vote Malcom for the men. Though it's the voice in combination with the cragged face that does it for me.
one thing I dislike about my fave character: Vanessa has a tendency to take it to extremes whenever she feels distressed. Big break-up crisis triggered by her one night stand with Mina's fiance? Vanessa has a mental and physical breakdown. (Almost) everyone, including her newly admitted beloved, leaves in the aftermath of her facing down Lucifer and winning? Vanessa becomes a hermit and has another mental breakdown. Not that she doesn't get put through hell by life, but she does have an absolutist martyr streak, which, in the finale, wins. (One of several reasons why I wrote my PD Yuletide epic.)
one thing I like about my hated character: More dislike than hate, but Dorian has great taste in women and men.
a quote or scene that haunts me: "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." Victor, after two seasons (2 and 3) spending irritating and enraging me in different degrees, redeems himself (sort of) not just by doing the right thing for once (letting Lily go), but also by involuntarily finding the perfect response to Dracula's yay darkness speeches, and summing up the show's ethics at its best.
a death that left me indifferent: can't think of one. The deaths all caused emotional responses in me. Not always the ones the narrative intended, but never indifference.
a character I wish died but didn’t: Dracula. See also: Yuletide story.
my ship that never sailed: I have to modify here: I didn't like how it sailed. Timothy Dalton and Helen McCrory had great chemistry, and the first few scenes between Malcolm and Evelyn crackled, but then she put him under a spell, and all the interest went out until he was able to break out of the spell - their last scene together was again terrific. So I wish the Malcolm/Evelyn Poole affair had happened without her using magic, or if she did, very late in the game, which would would still have allowed him that scene where he breaks out of it because he realises blissful and not angry at anything Malcolm is not him, and them the scene where she makes him the offer of immortal companionship because he's just qualified himself as actually interesting.
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Date: 2017-04-22 05:07 pm (UTC)BTW: I have been meaning to ask: how do you keep up with the show? We share the same part of the world, and I have been going a bit spare over lack of DVDs since season 2 (seriously, what's up with that). I am willing to fork over the money to Amazon if I have to, but I'd prefer DVDs (my own copy of the source)...
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Date: 2017-04-22 05:10 pm (UTC)(Same, btw, with Doctor Who and Bates Motel, which are also available on Amazon Video.)
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Date: 2017-04-23 03:50 am (UTC)pretty sure you used this to sell me on the show before I was sure it was worth sticking with.
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Date: 2017-04-23 04:51 am (UTC)interactions I enjoyed the most: tough choice, because the various the various regular combinations in different seasons were all golden. I suppose the interactions I was most surprised to enjoy as much as I did were Marie & Hank, given how they start out in s1. For sheer hilarity, Skyler & Saul. (Now, of course, we know he has a HISTORY with smart blondes.) But if you define enjoy as "this is the heart of the show and what a dysfunctional train wreck it is, must see more", of course it's both Walt & Jesse and Walt & Skyler. So many of those scenes were breathtaking.
the character who scares me the most: Todd the Lydia adoring sociopath.
the character who is mostly like me: I have a know-it-all-annoyingness and pedantery in me shared by both Walt and Skyler, but I don't think that's enough to say "like me". (Thankfully?)
hottest looks character: based on pure looks, the only guy I'd date on this show would probably Hank's partner Steve. Women: Jane.
one thing I dislike about my fave character: At her worst, Skyler can be incredibly petty. (It comes out with Marie near the end of s1, and with the gas station owner in s4, for example. You can see in both cases what triggered it. But especially with the gas station owner, the provocation does not merit the result.)
one thing I like about my hated character: it may surprise you, but I don't hate the obvious suspect, i.e. Walt. I mean, I'm horrified, furious and what not by his actions as the show goes on. (Also amused, because talk about pettiness - Walt is the king of it. And that pizza on the roof remains a golden moment of US tv.) But I don't hate him. And the Evil White Supremacists from s5 are just too obviously evil props to hate. Ditto for various drug lords. I don't hate Jesse's parents, either, who have raised fannish ire for kicking him out. So I'll have to modify the "hate" qualification to "character I have someetimes hostile feelings for existing, though mostly for Doylist reasons, not Watsonian ones", which would the make the choice...Mike. (Currently irritating me over at BCS.) Whose competency at what he does I like very much.
a quote or scene that haunts me: oh so many. Skyler getting into that pool, drowning out Walt's voice, in 51 is one that immediately comes to mind, though, as does their subsequent argument, which I always compare in emotional brutality to the Michael and Kay scene from Godfather II. (Was v.v. smug when Bryan Cranston mentioned in an interview he and Anna Gunn watched that very scene in preparation.)
a death that left me indifferent: the deaths I was supposed to feel something about usually did get an emotional reaction from me.
a character I wish died but didn’t: Can't think of one.
my ship that never sailed: don't have one. I mean, in my head canon Saul totally did develop a thing for Skyler, but it was completely one sided.
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Date: 2017-04-23 06:55 am (UTC)interactions I enjoyed the most: hard to single out, because the changing ensemble really excels at various combinations, but: Sister Julienne and Bernadette/Shelagh (both before and after she leaves the Order), Sisters Evangelina and Monica Joan, and Phyllis & Everyone I love just that key bit more.
the character who scares me the most: in the sense that the worry we'll lose her either to Doylist reasons (actress departure) or Watsonian ones (either to death or dementia taking the away the core of her), Sister Monica Joan.
the character who is mostly like me: I don't have nearly a tenth of their dedication to helping others, so, alas: none.
hottest looks character: women: Patsy. Men: the two competers in the wonderful husband department, Patrick Turner and Peter Noakes, are homely rather than hot, and Trixie's various beaus as well as Tom the Curate have too much of that slick late 50s/early 60s look for me to call them hot. (Ditto Jenny's various love interests.)
one thing I dislike about my fave character: it's not easy to spot, because she deals with changes she doesn't want with such grace, but Sister Julienne has a default setting of not questioning the status quo/tradition/things-as-they-are. It's not that she doesn't do something about injustice when she sees it (and when she can), but without a massive trigger, her instinct is to assume the status quo is right.
one thing I like about my hated character: I don't really have on on this show, except for the occasional boo-hiss one episode people (the occasional abusive/neglectful parents/spouses).
a quote or scene that haunts me: " I have come to the conclusion that there are only two reasons for ever doing anything. One is love, the other is fear." Which is a very Sister Julienne thing to conclude.
a death that left me indifferent: Jenny's s3 love interest, Alec.
a character I wish died but didn’t: can't think of one.
my ship that never sailed: Also a pass.
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Date: 2017-04-23 07:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-04-23 07:35 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-04-23 03:43 pm (UTC)This is actually one of the more fascinating things about Sister Julienne to me--you're right, it is subtle, but so consistent (and kudos to the writers and Jenny Agutter). You see it with Sister Bernadette in S2, you see it with the contraceptive pill, and perhaps most prominently, we saw it with Sister Mary Cynthia this year. You start to wonder if the character is aware of this at all and what that awareness could mean.
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Date: 2017-04-23 07:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-04-23 10:03 pm (UTC)Jyn Ersa's mother, because I kept being angry with her and the writers. It was so pointless and stupid for her to show up instead of hiding away with her daughter and live to rescue her husband another day, and so obviously there so Jyn in the present would have only one parent to angst about.
*nod nod*
That was such lazy writing.
I'm more okay about Maul than you are - I thought Rebels gave him a fitting sendoff, even if it wasn't Vader stabbing himself to kill Maul. *g*
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Date: 2017-04-24 03:19 am (UTC)Atia's my ROME fave in general.
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Date: 2017-04-24 03:21 am (UTC)No fan of his becoming jealous and insecure later, obvs.
Buffy & Dawn. Yep. ♥
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Date: 2017-04-24 05:46 am (UTC)interactions I enjoyed the most: Snape and Harry, all the way from Snape being pettily mean to a bewildered kid to "there's no need to call me Sir, Professor" (so much of fanfic edits out Harry's snark, it's frustrating) to eye staring and tragic death.
the character who scares me the most: Dolores Umbridge, far more than Standard Evil Overlord Voldemort. Because we all know people like her, and these days, some of them are in government and cabinets. *shudders* (Sidenote: I will say Ralph Fiennes did make Voldemort frightening for the movies, but Umbridge is still more fearsome in her real to life ness.)
the character who is mostly like me: I don't have Hermione's bravery, inventiveness or ruthlessness, but I do recognize S.P.E.W. and the know-it-all-attitude...
hottest looks character: the books tell us that Veela are irresistable and so was young Grindlewald, so I suppose it's Fleur for the female and Grindlewald when young for the male characters. In the movies, Neville's actor stunned us all (including JKR who posted about it) by turning hot as he grew up, so he gets an honorary note. (General problem with the movies completely aside from content: everyone from the Snape & Marauders generation had to be cast, age wise, to match Alan Rickman. Now usually I'm all for middleaged characters, and I adore Alan Rickman, but here it's a problem because the fact that all these people were only a few years out of school when the first Voldemort war went down and that Snape, Sirius and Remus are only in their mid 30s when they die is part of their characterisation, so I try to keep the movie actors away from the bookverse characters.)
one thing I dislike about my fave character: I don't have a particular fave in HP in the sense of fannish love. Snape was always the most interesting to me, but the contortions some of his fans went through to explain or excuse his incredible pettiness or that he bullied children like Neville whose parents didn't provide him with a Freudian excuse was amazing. Part of what made the character was that yes, he really was a miserable git. And he was incredibly brave and dedicated.
one thing I like about my hated character: Well, I do like cats, so I suppose Umbridge's thing for them is her one likeable trait. :)
a quote or scene that haunts me. "I must not tell lies." That scene in Order of the Phoenix when Harry realizes what's happening during his detention with Umbridge is just... brrrr. Also, still OotP, Harry and Luna at the very end, when Harry offers to help Luna find her shoes. Luna was a wonderful late addition to the cast, and to me this scene in particular not just epitomizes their friendship but also Harry moving out of the shock/horror/grief/rage stage he's in (for understandable reasons) in most of the novel and starts to focus on other people again.
a death that left me indifferent: Remus and Tonks felt like they were mostly killed because Harry needed to be mentor-less post war and also so Remus could be with the other dead people during Harry's walk in the forest. Now if I was majorly invested in either character, I'd have been angry, but I wasn't, so indifference it was.
a character I wish died but didn’t: Can't think of one. I do think JKR made the right choice NOT to kill Arthur Weasley and kill Sirius instead in OotP.
my ship that never sailed: I don't think I shipped anyone in HP.
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Date: 2017-04-24 02:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-04-24 03:03 pm (UTC)interactions I enjoyed the most: Rygel & John, Chiana & John, John & Scorpius, Aeryn & Crais, Aeryn & Pilot
the character who scares me the most: Before Harvey became hilarious and expressing the playfulness John increasingly abandoned (s 3, 4 and PKW), he was a deeply frightening concept (i.e. in late s2). Being taken over yet also there, helpless in your own body while someone else is steering it, is one of my surefire sci fi fears. Also Ben Browder is really chilling as completely-taken-over-by-not-yet-Harvey John in the s2 finale.
the character who is mostly like me: pass.
hottest looks character: can't decide between Chiana and Aeryn for the women; Crais when not deranged for the men.
one thing I dislike about my fave character: Rygel really can be incredibly selfish, and not in a jerk-with-a-heart-of-gold way.
one thing I like about my hated character: less hated than getting-on-my-nerves-more-than-anyone, but Stark, at his best, can been deeply compassionate, and given the kind of life he's had, that's incredible.
a quote or scene that haunts me: "The things I've done, the things which have been done to me" - John in "Kansas" summing up his arc throughout the show. It's one of Ben Browder's best acting scenes, too. (On a light note, Rygel also sums up John's arc in the s4 opener in a hilarious way: "Wormholes, Earth, Aeryn, Scorpius, Scorpius, Aeryn, Wormholes, Aeryn".) And Aeryn's goodbye scene from Crais. Those two had come so far. And then: "Talyn, starburst!"
a death that left me indifferent: as
a character I wish died but didn’t: early on, I wished Grayza would die, because she came across as such a cheap Servalan (from Blake's 7) imitation. But by the time s4 ended, writers and actress had managed to make her into her own character, and she was that in The Peacekeeper Wars, definitely, so I didn't want her dead anymore.
my ship that never sailed: I always joke about being the world's sole John/Rygel shipper. And hey, my ship even has canon mpreg!
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Date: 2017-04-24 09:37 pm (UTC)>>the character who scares me the most: Dolores Umbridge,<< I understand completely. I could never figure out why till I realised I was imagining my primary school headteacher in her stead.
>>Part of what made the character was that yes, he really was a miserable git. And he was incredibly brave and dedicated.<< Yes, this.
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Date: 2017-04-29 12:16 pm (UTC)I love your point about how Donna's dogged determination plays out in both good and occasionally wince-inducing ways.
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Date: 2017-04-29 12:23 pm (UTC)when s2 ended, I was very annoyed they'd ressurected Herrick, whom I hadn't found v. interesting a villain in s1, but I was wrong. His s3 appearance turned out to be a narrative masterstroke, and the actor was awesome.
YES. I mean I really like him in S1, playing a copper and horribly charming the tea lady, but I was "ugh" when he came back and then NO IT WAS SO GREAT. And I loved what it did both in showcasing Nina's heroism - she's a nurse, she protects the vulnerable, no matter what - and in showing in Mitchell both a bit of vulnerability I definitely felt for, as he's trying to convince the others Herrick is a threat, and that very ugly self-interest.
"There's a poison in you" is amazing. I wish I could fit my icon of it into my rather-smaller-than-on-LJ icon package!
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Date: 2017-04-29 04:31 pm (UTC)Re: what Herrick brings out in Nina and Mitchell respectively, yes indeed. Damn, but s3 was soooooo good!