(Don't ask my why G. as opposed to any other Nazi, but that was SFX' choice, and the comparison turned up in "Dreamwatch", too, I think.)
Doesn't seem an apt choice, no matter if you think of the Centauri as Nazis or not (and I always thought they were either vaguely Wilhelminean, or, much more likely, late Roman). Goebbels is intricately connected to controlling and distributing propaganda, and the basic type for Londo seems more someone who foolishly gave in to temptation at the wrong time and went down from there. (Of course my grasp of the second and third season, while nominally present, isn't all that great, so this assessment could be off the mark.)
And back then, there was no precedent for a character doing bad stuff for that long a while and STILL not end up as a villain to be defeated in the series finale
Hm, this is an interesting aspect. I hadn't thought about it, but yes, characters this morally grey haven't been along for that much, have they? It reminds me of the controversy about letting Dukat remain grey, which seemed out of the question for Ira Behr (?) at the time.
I have currently come in a similar situation, since Gaius Baltar has sneakily become one of my favourite BSG characters (which says a lot, since there are few I really don't like, or don't care about in some capacity), and he doesn't even have a Vir to speak for him. Nor would he deserve one, for that matter, but his "evilness" is so mundane, it becomes accessible. He is more flaws than cackling.
Yes, sure, he died in that flashforward, and arggggh, the horror of the Keeper, but "old Friend" and the reason for Londo's death being turned upside down, the prospect of Londo and G'Kar being not just allies but friends in the future - I completely felt validated in my Vir-ian insistance on Londo's redeemability.
I'm wondering if my adoration of Nathan has Hiro-esque aspects. Hmmm... no, I don't think so. Maybe the flying, but the rest is pretty much:"I like you, I feel sorry for you, you annoy me, and your political ideas suck. Also, you really should stay away from your mother, and have you ever thought about counselling? No? Okay, then."
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Re: And Part Two
Date: 2007-08-22 05:56 am (UTC)Doesn't seem an apt choice, no matter if you think of the Centauri as Nazis or not (and I always thought they were either vaguely Wilhelminean, or, much more likely, late Roman). Goebbels is intricately connected to controlling and distributing propaganda, and the basic type for Londo seems more someone who foolishly gave in to temptation at the wrong time and went down from there. (Of course my grasp of the second and third season, while nominally present, isn't all that great, so this assessment could be off the mark.)
And back then, there was no precedent for a character doing bad stuff for that long a while and STILL not end up as a villain to be defeated in the series finale
Hm, this is an interesting aspect. I hadn't thought about it, but yes, characters this morally grey haven't been along for that much, have they? It reminds me of the controversy about letting Dukat remain grey, which seemed out of the question for Ira Behr (?) at the time.
I have currently come in a similar situation, since Gaius Baltar has sneakily become one of my favourite BSG characters (which says a lot, since there are few I really don't like, or don't care about in some capacity), and he doesn't even have a Vir to speak for him. Nor would he deserve one, for that matter, but his "evilness" is so mundane, it becomes accessible. He is more flaws than cackling.
Yes, sure, he died in that flashforward, and arggggh, the horror of the Keeper, but "old Friend" and the reason for Londo's death being turned upside down, the prospect of Londo and G'Kar being not just allies but friends in the future - I completely felt validated in my Vir-ian insistance on Londo's redeemability.
I'm wondering if my adoration of Nathan has Hiro-esque aspects. Hmmm... no, I don't think so. Maybe the flying, but the rest is pretty much:"I like you, I feel sorry for you, you annoy me, and your political ideas suck. Also, you really should stay away from your mother, and have you ever thought about counselling? No? Okay, then."