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Occasionally dipping into the internet these last days tells me that on the Game of Thrones season 1 dvds, some of the producers on the audiocommentary for the s1 finale chortle about the fact that one of the severed heads in a scene there is that George (W.) Bush. Which was no sooner pointed out in an article than HBO had to scramble and apologize and have the producers declare that no, the Bush head was totally a coincidence and not an intention and no disrespect etc.

Now I must admit, when I first read about the Bush head, I was amused. I freely admit that had it been the head of an US president I feel more or less positive about instead of loathing his policies and feeling pain every time he opens his mouth to speak - say, Clinton - I would not have been amused, though I doubt I'd have felt more than a momentary urge to roll my eyes, and then move on. Then again, I'm not American, and our politicians fare far worse on carnival wagons. Also, the apology is probably not intended to soothe Bush's potentially hurt feelings but very much intended to keep Republican voters paying for HBO in an election year where partisan feelings are at fever pitch. (Probably why no one demanded apologies from RTD and Phil for chortling on the Last of the Time Lords audio commentary or podcast - I forgot which one - about the fact the death of the US president was the one thing not reset when the Year That Wasn't was reversed and that probably nobody minded because, well, Bush. The BBC isn't paid for by American watchers.) Anyway: the mental combination of W. with Game of Thrones made me conclude that Bush is what would have happened if Theon Greyjoy by some chance of fate had become supreme ruler of Westeros.

Incidentally, re: Game of Thrones, the second season continued to be stress-free (due to lack of deeper emotional investment and only the vaguest of memories of the novels) watching for me, though I felt sorry for those of my friends who fretted about the changes to their favourite characters and glad for those who loved the show as it was. It's the Dallas of the "gritty" fantasy, and I don't mean that as a put-down; I used to watch Dallas in the 80s for quite a while and it was pretty addictive, but I also didn't love or hate any of the characters. And now I want someone to match Ewings and Barnes to Lannisters or Starks and write a treatise as to whether Dany is Lucy written with girl power and dragons. :)

Lastly: I hear G.R.R. Martin joined the ranks of (mostly male) reviewers who watched a differentn movie than I did and thought Black Widow was only standing around uselessly being eye candy in The Avengers. No, Mr. Martin, that's Jon Snow in the tv version of your saga. He may be actually doing something in the books, but I would not know, because I got bored so much by him by the time the first book ended that I skipped all his pov chapters in the subsequent ones.

Date: 2012-06-15 12:27 pm (UTC)
monanotlisa: Arya Stark of Winterfell, looking on (arya - got)
From: [personal profile] monanotlisa
John Snow and Davos Seaworth: skim-time, for me (among others' chapters).

Date: 2012-06-15 02:21 pm (UTC)
kalypso: (Jarriere)
From: [personal profile] kalypso
According to a friend who attended G. R. R. Martin's talk at Eastercon, Martin said he'd been very keen to have his own head on a spike somewhere, as a sort of cameo appearance, but he was told that each head was phenomenally expensive to make (presumably all the more so if it had to be a convincing likeness of a specific individual) so they preferred to recyle heads that were around already.

Date: 2012-06-15 02:25 pm (UTC)
kernezelda: (ST TOS Uhura lady in red)
From: [personal profile] kernezelda
Geez, what movie were these guys watching? And I agree about Jon Snow; I don't remember much about him from the books at all, my attention diverted to Arya and Daenerys and Brand for the most part. I'll be attempting to marathon Season 2 pretty soon, though I have Idris Elba's 2nd season of Luther in queue before that, and Justified's S3.

ETA: Some studio here is re-booting Dallas with Patrick Duffy back in his role, and bringing in the next generation to continue the family feud.
Edited Date: 2012-06-15 02:27 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-06-15 05:54 pm (UTC)
lizvogel: Real Doctor Who ended in 1989. (Real DW)
From: [personal profile] lizvogel
Probably why no one demanded apologies from RTD and Phil for chortling on the Last of the Time Lords audio commentary or podcast - I forgot which one - about the fact the death of the US president was the one thing not reset when the Year That Wasn't was reversed and that probably nobody minded because, well, Bush.

Although I have heard that the commentary is different on the American release of the DVDs, for just that reason. One of the reasons I'm not buying the DVDs, or at least not until circumstances make buying the UK release feasible.

thought Black Widow was only standing around uselessly being eye candy in The Avengers

I guess that Russian guy just fell down the shaft in that building because he tripped, huh? And Banner just came back to the SHIELD fold because he was bored or something....

Date: 2012-06-15 07:46 pm (UTC)
lizvogel: Real Doctor Who ended in 1989. (Real DW)
From: [personal profile] lizvogel
Indeed! Maybe alien mind-control rays? That's always a good explanation.

Date: 2012-06-16 04:10 am (UTC)
saturnofthemoon: (Cersei)
From: [personal profile] saturnofthemoon
I'm glad I already have my S1 GOT DVDs so I can listen to that commentary and laugh...as well as make screencaps of Bush's head.

And oh Jon Snow! I'm sure he is doing something interesting and plot relevant in his chapters...but I'm having too much trouble staying awake to notice. I'm glad I'm not the only one who has this problem.

As for GRRM, while's definitely created some awesome female characters, he's also guilty of a lot of gender fail. Natasha was one of the highlights of the Avengers for me.
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Date: 2012-06-16 04:53 am (UTC)
lilacsigil: Black Widow with sights on her (black widow)
From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
I'll put up with GRRM's complaints that it's not the Natasha he read in the 60s when we get Hawkeye in bright purple, no Chitauri, Iron Man in his big gold suit and no-one has a mobile phone.

Date: 2012-06-16 05:24 am (UTC)
lilacsigil: 12 Apostles rocks, text "Rock On" (12 Apostles)
From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
Yes, the big gold one with the skirt and the creepy mouth slit! Though Hawkeye in his Pocohontas tunic or Iron Man on rollerskates would be pretty awesome too.

Date: 2012-06-16 11:10 am (UTC)
legionseagle: Lai Choi San (Default)
From: [personal profile] legionseagle
If you haven't seen this, I think you might appreciate it: Why Natasha Matters (h/t Diane Duane, via Tumblr)
Edited Date: 2012-06-16 11:10 am (UTC)

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