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Five Federation Songs Quark Doesn’t Dislike, And Why
1) The Vulcan Love Slave title credit song, otherwise known as “I’m pon farr, you’re pon farr”. This is still one of Quark’s most profitable holosuite programs, and that’s why he both likes it and knows it by heart. The one for Vulcan Love Slave: The Return isn’t bad, either, but doesn’t really compare.
2) While he doesn’t get what the big deal about Vic Fontaine was supposed to be, seeing as if people wanted a fine casino and bar with a clever and verbally adroit barkeep to visit, they had one right there, Quark kind of likes “Luck be a lady”, which Vic sang to cheer him up when he and Bashir were brooding over losing Dax to The Walking Frown. He does NOT like “I’ll be seeing you”, aka the song Nog listened to over and over again in the aftermath of losing his leg, because Quark heard that song on AR-558, too, when he killed for the third time in his life and still couldn’t protect his stupid little nephew from losing a limb in the stupid Federation war.
3) Back a few decades ago when the Klingons became Federation allies, their drinking songs also entered Federation repertoire, because every other band in the Federation, from Betazed to Ypsilanti, did cover versions. This was really nifty because not only did said songs encourage their singers to drink (drinks available from your faithful barkeep for a small fee), but because they were Klingon in origin, and not designed for other people’s voices, they left everyone’s throats really parched and in need of more drinks. And none more than “Hunt of Kahless” as covered by the Betazoid artist Osmo Travis, who wanted to prove to everyone Betazoids were as tough as anyone and thus shouted even more than the Klingons in their original version did. That song was a winner, folks. Quark loves it.
4) Jadzia collected obscure Vulcan composers. Whose tunes didn’t sound anything like the title melody for “Vulcan Love Slave”. But she liked them, and Quark liked finding rare recordings for her, for a minimum discount. He had one coming in when she died. He probably should have sent it back, but at first he told himself he just kept it in storage for when Dax showed up at the station again. Which she did, as Ezri, except that as it turned out, Ezri didn’t like Vulcan composers, and by now it was too late to send the recording back. So he kept it, and listened to it, sometimes. Just because if you have something, you might as well use it. Right? He has no idea what the plains of whatever are supposed to be – “Plains of Vulcan’s Anvil”, that’s the name of the song – but he knows the notes by heart. Ferengi have a good ear, that’s all. That’s why.
5) “Come to Quark – don’t come, run.” So it was a Starfleet officer who wrote that jingle for him, for free, and Kira typically overreacted to the merchandise, so what? It’s far catchier than any of the chants Quark has heard coming out of the Bajoran Temple. He really thinks he should be allowed to broadcast it over the station comm system again.
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Five Things Picard Wishes He’d Have Done Differently
He’s careful not to voice any of this out loud, though. One never knows when Q is in the vicinity, and he doesn’t need yet another look at an alternate reality which might or might not have been made up for his benefit.
1) Bevery and Wesley after Jack’s death. He still thinks it was right not to say anything, because the fact he fell in love with his best friend’s wife is something he always will be ashamed of, and didn’t want her to know, but he withdrew from her after Jack had died, and kept a distance, and he shouldn’t have done that. Beverly deserved better. Their years on the Enterprise later proved they could have been close friends without him having to reveal what he had felt during her marriage, no matter how lingering.
2) Turning down Q’s offer to become a member of the crew. Given on what he knew then, it had been the right call. But he now knows what followed – their encounter with the Borg, the Borg becoming curious about the Alpha Quadrant, all the dead at Wolf 359 on those 39 Federation vessels – and he thinks he should have found a different way to deal with Q. He’s a diplomat, after all, and encounters with alien life forms are what he is supposed to excel at. If necessary, he should have swallowed his pride and annoyance and had taken Q at his word, treating him as a member of the crew; chances are Q would have become bored with it before a week was over, would have left, and Wolf 359 would not have happened. Hindsight; but the worst of the hindsight is that Picard can’t be sure all those deaths on the 39 ships are the main reason why he wishes he had acted differently. Because at the core of this is the experience of being Locutus, of being one with the Borg collective, of killing these crews, of killing members of his own crew years later when he found them assimilated while Lily watched him in horror, and he can’t pretend this is not a factor. Wishing this would never have happened to him.
3) Not persuading Robert to visit him on the Enterprise just once, with Marie and René. Picard is reasonably sure he could have managed to convince Robert if he had really tried; no matter how stubborn Robert was about technology, if he had made it a challenge along the lines of “are you afraid…?”, it would have worked. Chances are Robert would have considered it as another attempt of Jean-Luc to show off, there would have been an argument, and they probably would have gotten drunk together again which wasn’t something he wanted his crew to see. But he would have been able to share the stars with his brother, his nephew and his sister-in-law, that sense of the infinite, the wonder of space he still feels every time. And that would have been everything.
4) Just a small thing and nothing major, but the ocean on Risa is really beautiful. Now the adventure in the mountains Vash dragged him into was unexpectedly glorious fun, and he wouldn’t want to have missed it for the world. He just wishes they’d have found the time to go swimming as well before his holiday was over. Now Risa is still reconstructing after being an early target in the Dominion war, and it would be the height of callousness to go there for vacation. And he hasn’t seen Vash for a good long while, though Miles O’Brien has told him she parted ways with Q and came to Deep Space Nine afterwards. It’s not a big regret, something that keeps him up at night. But sometimes, when the Enterprise is in orbit over a planet and he has the leisure to watch the oceans from above, he wishes he had taken the time: one more day, on the beach, breathing in the salty air, watching Vash go first and then feeling the sea around him, just letting go.
5) Not asking Kirk something that has been bugging him since his academy days when they were in the Nexus together. Of course, he’d have loved to talk about all of Kirk’s adventures if there had been time – he did study the man in school – but there wasn’t. Asking just one question on their way to Soren, on the other hand, wouldn’t have been a problem. The question is this: if the entity encountered by Kirk at Stardate 3468.1 on Pollux IV was, as Kirk had claimed, the real Apollo, why then did he surround himself with clinically white statues and temples when archaeology as well as every surviving description by ancient writers like Pliny tells us Greek statues were painted in bright colours, and so were the temple columns? It drives Picard’s inner archaeologist mad every time he sees a record of that particular mission of Kirk’s, and he really would have liked to clear this up.
kernezelda:Five Federation Songs Quark Doesn’t Dislike, And Why
1) The Vulcan Love Slave title credit song, otherwise known as “I’m pon farr, you’re pon farr”. This is still one of Quark’s most profitable holosuite programs, and that’s why he both likes it and knows it by heart. The one for Vulcan Love Slave: The Return isn’t bad, either, but doesn’t really compare.
2) While he doesn’t get what the big deal about Vic Fontaine was supposed to be, seeing as if people wanted a fine casino and bar with a clever and verbally adroit barkeep to visit, they had one right there, Quark kind of likes “Luck be a lady”, which Vic sang to cheer him up when he and Bashir were brooding over losing Dax to The Walking Frown. He does NOT like “I’ll be seeing you”, aka the song Nog listened to over and over again in the aftermath of losing his leg, because Quark heard that song on AR-558, too, when he killed for the third time in his life and still couldn’t protect his stupid little nephew from losing a limb in the stupid Federation war.
3) Back a few decades ago when the Klingons became Federation allies, their drinking songs also entered Federation repertoire, because every other band in the Federation, from Betazed to Ypsilanti, did cover versions. This was really nifty because not only did said songs encourage their singers to drink (drinks available from your faithful barkeep for a small fee), but because they were Klingon in origin, and not designed for other people’s voices, they left everyone’s throats really parched and in need of more drinks. And none more than “Hunt of Kahless” as covered by the Betazoid artist Osmo Travis, who wanted to prove to everyone Betazoids were as tough as anyone and thus shouted even more than the Klingons in their original version did. That song was a winner, folks. Quark loves it.
4) Jadzia collected obscure Vulcan composers. Whose tunes didn’t sound anything like the title melody for “Vulcan Love Slave”. But she liked them, and Quark liked finding rare recordings for her, for a minimum discount. He had one coming in when she died. He probably should have sent it back, but at first he told himself he just kept it in storage for when Dax showed up at the station again. Which she did, as Ezri, except that as it turned out, Ezri didn’t like Vulcan composers, and by now it was too late to send the recording back. So he kept it, and listened to it, sometimes. Just because if you have something, you might as well use it. Right? He has no idea what the plains of whatever are supposed to be – “Plains of Vulcan’s Anvil”, that’s the name of the song – but he knows the notes by heart. Ferengi have a good ear, that’s all. That’s why.
5) “Come to Quark – don’t come, run.” So it was a Starfleet officer who wrote that jingle for him, for free, and Kira typically overreacted to the merchandise, so what? It’s far catchier than any of the chants Quark has heard coming out of the Bajoran Temple. He really thinks he should be allowed to broadcast it over the station comm system again.
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penknife:Five Things Picard Wishes He’d Have Done Differently
He’s careful not to voice any of this out loud, though. One never knows when Q is in the vicinity, and he doesn’t need yet another look at an alternate reality which might or might not have been made up for his benefit.
1) Bevery and Wesley after Jack’s death. He still thinks it was right not to say anything, because the fact he fell in love with his best friend’s wife is something he always will be ashamed of, and didn’t want her to know, but he withdrew from her after Jack had died, and kept a distance, and he shouldn’t have done that. Beverly deserved better. Their years on the Enterprise later proved they could have been close friends without him having to reveal what he had felt during her marriage, no matter how lingering.
2) Turning down Q’s offer to become a member of the crew. Given on what he knew then, it had been the right call. But he now knows what followed – their encounter with the Borg, the Borg becoming curious about the Alpha Quadrant, all the dead at Wolf 359 on those 39 Federation vessels – and he thinks he should have found a different way to deal with Q. He’s a diplomat, after all, and encounters with alien life forms are what he is supposed to excel at. If necessary, he should have swallowed his pride and annoyance and had taken Q at his word, treating him as a member of the crew; chances are Q would have become bored with it before a week was over, would have left, and Wolf 359 would not have happened. Hindsight; but the worst of the hindsight is that Picard can’t be sure all those deaths on the 39 ships are the main reason why he wishes he had acted differently. Because at the core of this is the experience of being Locutus, of being one with the Borg collective, of killing these crews, of killing members of his own crew years later when he found them assimilated while Lily watched him in horror, and he can’t pretend this is not a factor. Wishing this would never have happened to him.
3) Not persuading Robert to visit him on the Enterprise just once, with Marie and René. Picard is reasonably sure he could have managed to convince Robert if he had really tried; no matter how stubborn Robert was about technology, if he had made it a challenge along the lines of “are you afraid…?”, it would have worked. Chances are Robert would have considered it as another attempt of Jean-Luc to show off, there would have been an argument, and they probably would have gotten drunk together again which wasn’t something he wanted his crew to see. But he would have been able to share the stars with his brother, his nephew and his sister-in-law, that sense of the infinite, the wonder of space he still feels every time. And that would have been everything.
4) Just a small thing and nothing major, but the ocean on Risa is really beautiful. Now the adventure in the mountains Vash dragged him into was unexpectedly glorious fun, and he wouldn’t want to have missed it for the world. He just wishes they’d have found the time to go swimming as well before his holiday was over. Now Risa is still reconstructing after being an early target in the Dominion war, and it would be the height of callousness to go there for vacation. And he hasn’t seen Vash for a good long while, though Miles O’Brien has told him she parted ways with Q and came to Deep Space Nine afterwards. It’s not a big regret, something that keeps him up at night. But sometimes, when the Enterprise is in orbit over a planet and he has the leisure to watch the oceans from above, he wishes he had taken the time: one more day, on the beach, breathing in the salty air, watching Vash go first and then feeling the sea around him, just letting go.
5) Not asking Kirk something that has been bugging him since his academy days when they were in the Nexus together. Of course, he’d have loved to talk about all of Kirk’s adventures if there had been time – he did study the man in school – but there wasn’t. Asking just one question on their way to Soren, on the other hand, wouldn’t have been a problem. The question is this: if the entity encountered by Kirk at Stardate 3468.1 on Pollux IV was, as Kirk had claimed, the real Apollo, why then did he surround himself with clinically white statues and temples when archaeology as well as every surviving description by ancient writers like Pliny tells us Greek statues were painted in bright colours, and so were the temple columns? It drives Picard’s inner archaeologist mad every time he sees a record of that particular mission of Kirk’s, and he really would have liked to clear this up.
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Date: 2009-02-15 06:58 am (UTC)Nice.
I got my kids addicted to TNG, btw. We are watching S3 right now, and it's fun to watch the show again, even in German. :-)
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Date: 2009-02-15 07:13 am (UTC)Re: Oh, your icon!
Date: 2009-02-16 06:46 am (UTC)I vividly remember a holdiday in Scotland with two friends, where four of us drove round the countryside in our old Mazda, and three of us we barged into every Woolworths on our way to buy all the TNG tapes that we could carry. Between us we managed buy most of the series. We really hated the dubbed versions, for the reasons you mention.
Since then I got rid of most of the tapes, but I still have all the Q epis. :-)
Right now we are borrowing the DVDs from a friend who has everything Star Trek...
My little one wants to dress up as Star Fleet doctor for Fasching. I have to try and get her a pair of Vulcan's ears... and something that looks like a phaser. :-D
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Date: 2009-02-15 07:31 am (UTC)As for Quark, like Dax says, I just love him and am happy to prove it in meme replies.*g*
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Date: 2009-02-15 11:20 am (UTC)And 5) of Picard rocks, too, after all those BIG regrets.
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Date: 2009-02-15 11:36 am (UTC)And I'm glad you approve of letting Picard end on a light (and geekish) note.*g*
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Date: 2009-02-15 01:24 pm (UTC)I had forgotten about the Vulcan Love Slave holoprogram, and laughed out loud. And Jadzia's recording that he kept, and the cover artists belting out the Klingon songs. And Nog. Quark had reason to dislike the Federation. Also, Vic Fontaine's bar with the snappy patter, hee!
I love the Picard ones, too, particularly the last one with the Apollo/Greek statuary. :D
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Date: 2009-02-15 06:35 pm (UTC)There isn't any way I can coax you back into writing fic for TNG and DSN again, is there?
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Date: 2009-02-16 06:01 am (UTC)Thank you!
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