Orphan Black 4.02.
Apr. 26th, 2016 04:46 pmProject Catching Up has started; Clones edition.
Now that I've written that, I of course want an Orphan Black/Star Wars: The Clone Wars crossover. Mind you, Sarah & Co. would probably regard the SW clones like the sci fi (ahem) version of the Castor boys, and they wouldn't be entirely wrong, which would reduce the chance for friendly interaction, but I would still hope for some Clone revolution at the end of it.
On to the actual episode. More Beth flashbacks, as Art and Sarah investigate her last days, and we see more of MK aka Mika. I'm a bit torn on the show creating yet another reason for Beth to kill herself, because retcon can be tricky (see: Paul suddenly familiar with Clones via his work for Castor when in s1 the fact that Sarah was one and Beth had been one took him totally by surprise), but so far, so good: the Neolutionists and their wormy implants provide reliably creepy body horror. (This kind of stuff always works since Alien made it popular.) Also it means more Art.
(Incidentally, if it's only six months since Beth killed herself and Sarah stumbled upon the Clones, they'll soon have an aging problem with the girl who plays Kira.)
This episode provides the opportunity to catch up with everyone else: Cosima is missing Delphine (I'm not, sorry; I really hated the true love confession last season after Delphine's controlling issues and creep factor had been maxed, and, a certain trope nothwithstanding, wasn't sorry to see her shot), and Felix is looking for his birth family. I loved the way they played that, with both his relationship with Alison and with Sarah getting showcased in their differences via the scenes they have with him; Alison already knows what's up (though the viewer does not, and the little mystery is nicely played), and is supportive if a bit worried, but not judgmental; Sarah comes back as she always does, assuming Felix will help her , and he does, but it's also why he's increasingly ticked off at her. And the outburst about Sarah being related to everyone else, including their adopted mother, was a good meta moment, because I did not like that revelation last season, but if the producers have found a way through it to finally provide Felix with a story of his own that's more than being gay witty sounding board to the Clone Sisters (not that he's not great at that), all the better. And you know, it makes psychological sense. Sarah and Felix used to be equal, both adopted, and both choosing to be brother and sister, with S. as their mother. But the Clone business has made biology suddenly a factor, and it's all very well to say Sarah is choosing to see the other Clones as her sisters, too, based on them as people, not automatically because they look like her (see: Rachel having made herself the enemy), but still, this is bound to upset the emotional balance, big time, especially since it keeps turning Felix' life upside down with all the drama. So him deciding to respond by finding out whom he's biologically related to makes psychological sense to me.
(I just hope this won't lead to something obvious and pat, i.e. Felix finds out he's descended from homophobes, rejects them, reconciles with Sarah. )
Speaking of biology and choice, last season's surprise friendship between Donnie and Helena has been very endearing, and I'm glad we're continuing this. And again, I love we get several perspectives here. Donnie being glad for Helena, and cooing over the embryo pic makes sense, but so does Alison having some issues; after all, Alison presumably tried to have children before finding out she couldn't and adopting hers. And there's the part where Helena is a not so reformed serial killer. Mind you, the show inevitably played it in a black humor fashion when Donnie pointed out that he and Alison by now have a killing record ,too, and Alison retorted that they are manslaughter, while Helena is murder. But at least the show's not ignoring either death score.
Meanwhile, worm in cheek: truly creepy, as mentioned earlier. I do hope this will give Cosima some scientific thing to do, because she needs to have a storyline that's not about her still posssibly dying or missing/mourning Delphine.
Now that I've written that, I of course want an Orphan Black/Star Wars: The Clone Wars crossover. Mind you, Sarah & Co. would probably regard the SW clones like the sci fi (ahem) version of the Castor boys, and they wouldn't be entirely wrong, which would reduce the chance for friendly interaction, but I would still hope for some Clone revolution at the end of it.
On to the actual episode. More Beth flashbacks, as Art and Sarah investigate her last days, and we see more of MK aka Mika. I'm a bit torn on the show creating yet another reason for Beth to kill herself, because retcon can be tricky (see: Paul suddenly familiar with Clones via his work for Castor when in s1 the fact that Sarah was one and Beth had been one took him totally by surprise), but so far, so good: the Neolutionists and their wormy implants provide reliably creepy body horror. (This kind of stuff always works since Alien made it popular.) Also it means more Art.
(Incidentally, if it's only six months since Beth killed herself and Sarah stumbled upon the Clones, they'll soon have an aging problem with the girl who plays Kira.)
This episode provides the opportunity to catch up with everyone else: Cosima is missing Delphine (I'm not, sorry; I really hated the true love confession last season after Delphine's controlling issues and creep factor had been maxed, and, a certain trope nothwithstanding, wasn't sorry to see her shot), and Felix is looking for his birth family. I loved the way they played that, with both his relationship with Alison and with Sarah getting showcased in their differences via the scenes they have with him; Alison already knows what's up (though the viewer does not, and the little mystery is nicely played), and is supportive if a bit worried, but not judgmental; Sarah comes back as she always does, assuming Felix will help her , and he does, but it's also why he's increasingly ticked off at her. And the outburst about Sarah being related to everyone else, including their adopted mother, was a good meta moment, because I did not like that revelation last season, but if the producers have found a way through it to finally provide Felix with a story of his own that's more than being gay witty sounding board to the Clone Sisters (not that he's not great at that), all the better. And you know, it makes psychological sense. Sarah and Felix used to be equal, both adopted, and both choosing to be brother and sister, with S. as their mother. But the Clone business has made biology suddenly a factor, and it's all very well to say Sarah is choosing to see the other Clones as her sisters, too, based on them as people, not automatically because they look like her (see: Rachel having made herself the enemy), but still, this is bound to upset the emotional balance, big time, especially since it keeps turning Felix' life upside down with all the drama. So him deciding to respond by finding out whom he's biologically related to makes psychological sense to me.
(I just hope this won't lead to something obvious and pat, i.e. Felix finds out he's descended from homophobes, rejects them, reconciles with Sarah. )
Speaking of biology and choice, last season's surprise friendship between Donnie and Helena has been very endearing, and I'm glad we're continuing this. And again, I love we get several perspectives here. Donnie being glad for Helena, and cooing over the embryo pic makes sense, but so does Alison having some issues; after all, Alison presumably tried to have children before finding out she couldn't and adopting hers. And there's the part where Helena is a not so reformed serial killer. Mind you, the show inevitably played it in a black humor fashion when Donnie pointed out that he and Alison by now have a killing record ,too, and Alison retorted that they are manslaughter, while Helena is murder. But at least the show's not ignoring either death score.
Meanwhile, worm in cheek: truly creepy, as mentioned earlier. I do hope this will give Cosima some scientific thing to do, because she needs to have a storyline that's not about her still posssibly dying or missing/mourning Delphine.
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Date: 2016-04-26 03:12 pm (UTC)YOU SHOULD TOTALLY WRITE THAT.
The Leda clones could be a secret side project by the Kaminoans, who I believe pack up and disappear in canon after Order 66 is executed so they're still around to be sinister later on, and then sometime in the gap between ROTS and ANH, Beth kills herself and Sarah pops up, a smalltime smuggler/spice dealer/etc. and S's contacts are now in the Rebellion!
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Date: 2016-04-27 04:25 am (UTC)The Castor and Leda clones and the SW ones even share the possible death sentence by genetics; in a fusion, the higher aging rate of the SW clones would apply, and instead of "just" discovering a patent at the end of s1, Cosima finds the chip with orders implanted.
Cosima can still be a scientist (ditto Delphine), and Alison a housewife; I'm not sure whether Helena should be an Inquisitor or raised by the surviving Night Sisters. (In order to find a parallel to religious fundamentalists.) The problem with both is that I'd rather have none of them have Force abilities, because the SW Clones don't, and because I'd like to keep them heroic without making them pseudo Jedi/Sith.
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Date: 2016-04-27 03:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-04-28 09:40 am (UTC)You know who is the closest to Rachel in TCW in terms of personality? Miraj Scintal, Queen of Zygerria. Too bad she's living in the wrong era if we'd set this fusion betwen trilogies. Because that would really fit. Though I suppose Rachel could be a successor to the throne, complete with making her bodyguards have sex with her. Otoh a key Rachel circumstance is that she lost her first set of parents to the second parent figure/Empire, and when finding the first of them again realises they reject what she has become. So presumably i the GFFA Rachel's first parents would be the Kaminoans originally in charge of the Clone program, and one of them modifies her into looking Zygerrian when things go bonkers?
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Date: 2016-04-28 04:45 pm (UTC)Ugh, you know, I always forget that she does that to Paul, mostly because I try to forget Paul, but also because I feel like it's not too different from what he was doing to Beth, though I guess the threat to him was more overt.
So presumably i the GFFA Rachel's first parents would be the Kaminoans originally in charge of the Clone program, and one of them modifies her into looking Zygerrian when things go bonkers?
That would definitely be in line with the crazy stuff Dyad and Neolution have done.
Maybe the simpler way would be to just have her be placed early on with a rich/politically important family so that nepotism gets her a spot as a sector governor or moff or something? That way she could be in charge of her own little fiefdom without too much power (though surely she'd have delusions of rising up in the political hierarchy) but still have underlings she could force into doing stuff for her. And it's not like the GFFA doesn't have a history of really young women in positions of political power.