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I've read Ash by Mary Gentle, which [livejournal.com profile] rozk had recommended to me. Very entertaining and clever story about a female mercanary in an alternate version of the late middle ages, and Gentle went to some trouble not to make her into a disguised Joan of Arc; she's very much her own character. Lots of characters are refreshingly unpredictable, like Ash's not-quite husband (though I'm still trying to work out how his father ended up in Burgundy and then in Bavaria with a Spanish name, this before the Habsburgs married themselves the Spanish empire, courtesy of poor Juana La Lorca), her sister, and her doctor. One of the crucial concepts involves shifting realities, and considering the present day, I'd very much prefer a reality shift and rewriting of history of my own, you know? Between Dubya and Tony B., and Berlusconi and Schröder, I'd rather live in the West Wing reality where politicians actually think of stuff like ethics and consequences.

Between HP slash floroushing since years and Narnia slash sure to become more popular now Neil Gaiman is writing it and having a go at Mary Poppins at the same time, I wonder whether anyone will write Tom Sawyer/Huck Finn sooner or later? My pal HonorH assures me Mark Twain would be amused.

And another thing, while we're in the American South: how come nobody wrote Scarlett/Melanie yet? Because that's the other love story Scarlett was in denial about (though Melanie was not) in Gone with the Wind.

For two fabulous movieverse X-Men stories, one about Magneto and Mystique (there is far too little Mystique fanfic out there), and one about Xavier and Magneto, go here.

Date: 2003-07-15 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ide-cyan.livejournal.com
We'll probably see some Tom Sawyer slash as a result of his addition to the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

Ash is awesome. On all levels. I've collected some other novels by Gentle as a result, but the only one I've read through and through so far was Grunts!, which I heartily recommend. It's pretty brutal, but since you've read Ash it shouldn't be a problem. :-) It's also a hilarious send up of certain Lord of the Rings-derived tropes. Ashnak and the Halflings still haunt me today.

Okay...

Date: 2003-07-15 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
...considering your and Searose's recommendation, I will make sure to read "Grunts!". Plus yes, "Ash" is awesome. Talk about heroines, antiheroines and villains!

Date: 2003-07-15 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] searose.livejournal.com
I always thought one of the reasons Melanie adored Scarlett so was the possibility of being the good girl while vicariously experiencing the life of a 'bad' girl. It was also very telling on Scarlett's part that she tossed frail Ashley to the side the moment Melanie died (and ascended into sainthood). By the way, avoid Alexandra Ripley's sequel 'Scarlett'; it's a good enough novel for a historical romance, but it's not GWTW II by any means.

I lent out my copy of Mary Gentle's Grunts! to a Dungeons and Dragons gaming friend, who informed me with suspect regret halfway through her reading not to ever expect the book to be returned to me. It's a fun book. At least, I recall it's a fun book; I couldn't exactly prove it now.

Alas, I couldn't avoid...

Date: 2003-07-15 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
...the horror which was "Scarlett". Somebody lend it to me a couple of years ago and wanted me to read it.

Melanie and Scarlett: you're right. Also, Scarlett realises she did love Melanie at the same time when she realises she loves Rhett. I think the turning point was probably when Melanie shot the soldier and they covered it up together...

Date: 2003-07-15 06:57 am (UTC)
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There was a book by Gentle years and years ago called, IIRC, The Golden Witchbreed, which I liked.

I am in the minority, then ...

Date: 2003-07-15 07:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] coffeeandink.livejournal.com
Because Grunts! is the one Gentle book I just can't stand. I even like Ancient Light, the sequel to Golden Witchbreed, which most people seem to consider a slap in the face; I consider it too bleak to reread often, but very good.

Probably my favorite novel of Gentle's is The Architecture of Desire, which is a sort-of sequel to Rats and Gargoyles; it could be read independently, but the first book is so good, why bother?

Since "Ash" so far...

Date: 2003-07-15 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
...is the only Gentle book I know, I'm absolutely open to any of the others. I'll add your favourites to the "Must Read" list, then.

Re: I am in the minority, then ...

Date: 2003-07-16 12:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kernezelda
I tried Rats & Gargoyles when it first came out, and it put me off entirely - I don't even remember why. I might give it another try.

I didn't know there was a sequel to GW. Maybe my local library has a copy or can interlibrary loan it for me.

Out of curiosity...

Date: 2003-07-16 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Could either of you tell me what "Rats and Gargoyles" and "The Architecture of Desire" is about? Roughly?

Re: Out of curiosity...

Date: 2003-07-16 04:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kernezelda
Sorry, no. I only read a couple of chapters, if that, and I don't remember anything about it.

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