Links and Hero(in)es
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selenakWow. That was quite the feedback. Thanks everyone! This is my Angel-in-Sense-and-Sensitivity moment. Group Hug!
(This reminds me, Sense and Sensitivity was Tim Minear's first broadcast AtS episode. (Not the first one he wrote, that was Somnabulist, but they left the script for later in the season.)
Now, here are some cool posts I discovered on the net this morning (local time):
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andrastewhite wrote a thoughtful and very intriguing essay
on the BTVS episodes Superstar and Storyteller, both penned by the delightful Jane Espenson, with a great analysis of Jonathan and Andrew respectively.
Drew Goddard, James Masters and JB Woodside have recorded an audio commentary for Lies My Parents Told Me which I found out here We wants these Season 7 DVDs now, yes we does, precious.
Some entries back I outed myself as an uncool person who loves the Star Wars prequels and explained why. I was delighted to discover there are other heretics like me. One of them wrote one of these "My (insert character)" memes which were making the rounds a while ago for Anakin Skywalker here which had me squealing "Exactly! Me, too!".
Speaking of emotionally messed-up young men whom not too many other people like: Wal_lace had the cool idea of letting Connor meet Magneto and present the result in an Angel/X-Men crossover here.
Lastly, the "Make Your Own League" meme, gacked fromide_cyan. (I still don't think I'll see the movie unless rozk tells me it's bearable for lovers of the Moore original.
The rules:
1. Choose five to seven characters
2. They may be from books, movies, comics, TV shows, games, and real life--no traditional superheroes, though
3. They may be from any place on the space-time continuum, and any plane of existence--characters do not need to exist within the same era and country as in the original
4. You must identify the recruiter, the leader, and the villain, and there must be at least one female
5. Optional: You may identify their primary means of transport
One female? Bah. I'll go in the opposite direction. Only two men. And in a nineteenth-century setting, though somewhat earlier than the original.
Recruiter: Wednesday, from American Gods, by Neil Gaiman. His qualifications are obvious. He is charming and can talk you into anything, can spot hero potential as easily as you and I breathe, is smart, selfish and utterly ruthless and prepared to deceive and use the people he recruits in appalling ways while being genuinenly fond of them. Also, due to his true identity, he's quite...err... flexible where timelines are concerned.
The Gang: Lydia Gwilt, from Armadale by Wilkie Collins. A talented forger and manipulator who does not suffer fools gladly, especially if they come in the dumb hero and drippy sentimental heroine variety. She's got a weakness, though - falling in love with the outcast Byronic type against her will. This leads to spouts of selfless behaviour which she finds highly inconvenient. Faked her death in "Armadale" in true League tradition to end said relationship.
Marian Halcombe, from The Woman in White, also by Wilkie Collins. Another smart and tough woman, very no-nonsense. As opposed to Lydia, she sees herself as belonging firmly in the good guy camp, but finds espionage and deception quite acceptable if it's necessary for a higher purpose. Has no time for romances but misses battle of wits with the late Conte Fosco, a most Machiavellian villain. Is the leader, though Lydia contests this now and then.
The Lady Geraldine, from Coleridge's ballad Christabel: A Lamia. Very inconvenienced by her last scheme with Christabel and Sir Leoline having fallen through, with some angry avengers on her heels, hence Wednesday was able to talk her into this. Flirts outrageously with both Lydia and Marian, who haven't decided yet whether they are outraged or intrigued or both.
The Creature, from Frankenstein by Mary Shelley. Very firmly the novel, not the film versions. He takes great umbrage at being called Frankenstein, so don't do it. Was talked out of burning himself with hi creator's dead body by Wednesday who turned up the moment Walton was out of sight and offered a purpose by joining the League. In addition to being strong and virtually invulnerable, he's got quite a temper and is prone to quarrel with Lydia and Catherine due to their non-stop sarcasm. They, in turn, find it easier quarrel than to indulge their soft spot for brooding antiheroes.
Ghost of Catherine Earnshaw, from Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte. Due to being a ghost, Cathy can get basically anywhere. And she needs a break from her passionate post-mortem union with the late Heathcliff every now and then, so Wednesday was able to persuade her. Has no use for heaven or hell, hence is invulnerable to exorcists, but won't be kept away from the moors for too long, so is not always available.
Villain: Besides Wednesday, you mean? Jasmine, making an early attempt to bring world peace without free will. (Though without TV and modern media, this is tougher.)
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(This reminds me, Sense and Sensitivity was Tim Minear's first broadcast AtS episode. (Not the first one he wrote, that was Somnabulist, but they left the script for later in the season.)
Now, here are some cool posts I discovered on the net this morning (local time):
andrastewhite wrote a thoughtful and very intriguing essay on the BTVS episodes Superstar and Storyteller, both penned by the delightful Jane Espenson, with a great analysis of Jonathan and Andrew respectively.
Drew Goddard, James Masters and JB Woodside have recorded an audio commentary for Lies My Parents Told Me which I found out here We wants these Season 7 DVDs now, yes we does, precious.
Some entries back I outed myself as an uncool person who loves the Star Wars prequels and explained why. I was delighted to discover there are other heretics like me. One of them wrote one of these "My (insert character)" memes which were making the rounds a while ago for Anakin Skywalker here which had me squealing "Exactly! Me, too!".
Speaking of emotionally messed-up young men whom not too many other people like: Wal_lace had the cool idea of letting Connor meet Magneto and present the result in an Angel/X-Men crossover here.
Lastly, the "Make Your Own League" meme, gacked from
ide_cyan. (I still don't think I'll see the movie unless rozk tells me it's bearable for lovers of the Moore original. The rules:
1. Choose five to seven characters
2. They may be from books, movies, comics, TV shows, games, and real life--no traditional superheroes, though
3. They may be from any place on the space-time continuum, and any plane of existence--characters do not need to exist within the same era and country as in the original
4. You must identify the recruiter, the leader, and the villain, and there must be at least one female
5. Optional: You may identify their primary means of transport
One female? Bah. I'll go in the opposite direction. Only two men. And in a nineteenth-century setting, though somewhat earlier than the original.
Recruiter: Wednesday, from American Gods, by Neil Gaiman. His qualifications are obvious. He is charming and can talk you into anything, can spot hero potential as easily as you and I breathe, is smart, selfish and utterly ruthless and prepared to deceive and use the people he recruits in appalling ways while being genuinenly fond of them. Also, due to his true identity, he's quite...err... flexible where timelines are concerned.
The Gang: Lydia Gwilt, from Armadale by Wilkie Collins. A talented forger and manipulator who does not suffer fools gladly, especially if they come in the dumb hero and drippy sentimental heroine variety. She's got a weakness, though - falling in love with the outcast Byronic type against her will. This leads to spouts of selfless behaviour which she finds highly inconvenient. Faked her death in "Armadale" in true League tradition to end said relationship.
Marian Halcombe, from The Woman in White, also by Wilkie Collins. Another smart and tough woman, very no-nonsense. As opposed to Lydia, she sees herself as belonging firmly in the good guy camp, but finds espionage and deception quite acceptable if it's necessary for a higher purpose. Has no time for romances but misses battle of wits with the late Conte Fosco, a most Machiavellian villain. Is the leader, though Lydia contests this now and then.
The Lady Geraldine, from Coleridge's ballad Christabel: A Lamia. Very inconvenienced by her last scheme with Christabel and Sir Leoline having fallen through, with some angry avengers on her heels, hence Wednesday was able to talk her into this. Flirts outrageously with both Lydia and Marian, who haven't decided yet whether they are outraged or intrigued or both.
The Creature, from Frankenstein by Mary Shelley. Very firmly the novel, not the film versions. He takes great umbrage at being called Frankenstein, so don't do it. Was talked out of burning himself with hi creator's dead body by Wednesday who turned up the moment Walton was out of sight and offered a purpose by joining the League. In addition to being strong and virtually invulnerable, he's got quite a temper and is prone to quarrel with Lydia and Catherine due to their non-stop sarcasm. They, in turn, find it easier quarrel than to indulge their soft spot for brooding antiheroes.
Ghost of Catherine Earnshaw, from Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte. Due to being a ghost, Cathy can get basically anywhere. And she needs a break from her passionate post-mortem union with the late Heathcliff every now and then, so Wednesday was able to persuade her. Has no use for heaven or hell, hence is invulnerable to exorcists, but won't be kept away from the moors for too long, so is not always available.
Villain: Besides Wednesday, you mean? Jasmine, making an early attempt to bring world peace without free will. (Though without TV and modern media, this is tougher.)
Psychological Nightmare
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Date: 2003-07-22 06:36 am (UTC)Wilkie Collins...
Date: 2003-07-22 06:46 am (UTC)Re: Wilkie Collins...
Date: 2003-07-22 03:10 pm (UTC)I have to second you on this! Although my favorite novel of his has always been "No Name", Magadalen would make a wonderful covert operative!
Re: Wilkie Collins...
Date: 2003-07-22 11:19 pm (UTC)What is so great about Collins' women is that he doesn't fall into the usual Victorian pattern of making them either saints or fiends. And one gets the impression he genuinenly liked them, not just in the sexual sense, I mean.
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Date: 2003-07-22 07:14 am (UTC)And thanks for the link to the Storyteller/Superstar analysis. Isn't this a great show, that the recurring, peripheral characters are so rich and contribute so much to the show's history?
It's a wonderful show...
Date: 2003-07-22 11:24 pm (UTC)