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May. 14th, 2006 12:17 pm
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Briefly, as today is for obvious reasons spent mostly with the Aged Parents: most of tv and movie tends to be all about the daddies, but there have been some memorable mothers and mother/child relationships. Here are a few - by no means all - of my favourite mothers to grace the screen:

1) Irina Derevko, of Alias. Duh. SpyMommy makes her entrance by shooting her daughter in the shoulder and continues to hurt, help, mindmess with and support Sydney from this point onwards.

2) Joyce Summers, of BTVS. Joyce had the not exactly thankful role of the relation not clueing in her daughter's heroic activities (that old cliché of superhero stories) early on, which is why most of my favourite Joyce scenes after from s3 onwards, after she found out, but I always liked her. Human and apt to make mistakes, no SuperMom she, but undoubtedly devoted to her daughter (later daughters), with a subtle sense of humour and generosity to boot.

3) Ruth Fischer, of Six Feet Under. Now Ruth would drive me up a wall if I knew her in real life, but as a fictional character, I adore her. And her repression and later attempts to open up, her earnest endeavours to deal with her children (in which she usually either overdoes the understanding or the restriction), and her bewildering taste in boyfriends plus relationship with her ghostly husband. Ah, Ruth.

4) Livia, of history and I, Claudius, played in the tv version by the one and only Sian Phillips. Livia is smart, ruthless, with a withering wit usually directed at her family, including and especially the son she wants to see as Emperor. (Tiberius: "Has it occured to you, mother, that it might be you they hate, and not me?" Livia: "Nothing occurs to you that did not occur to me first. That is the affliction under which I live.") And yet she has odd moments of vulnerability. I defy you to watch the scene where she goes from calmly admitting her various murders to asking Claudius (whom she has treated with scorn for most of her life) to make sure she becomes a goddess as to spare her the torments of Tartarus and not feel for her. She is that good.

And now, off to my own mother!

Date: 2006-05-14 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likeadeuce.livejournal.com
Great list -- though I'm obviously a bad classicist because, even though I've seen "I, Claudius," my first thought re: Livia was "Tony Soprano's mom?"

Date: 2006-05-14 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
A match between the two Livias would be interesting to see. They're both so lethal... but I'd put my money on the Empress.

Date: 2006-05-14 04:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com
I think Livia Drusilla is rather brighter than Livia Soprano.

Date: 2006-05-14 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiaforrest.livejournal.com
Marmee & Olivia Walton & Lillian Gilbreth (both the Real Woman & the 'image' of the Original Cheaper by the Dozen)

an article on Lillian I thought you might enjoy! (http://www.slate.com/id/2094243/)

Date: 2006-05-14 06:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com
Ah yes, I only recently discovered Six Foot Under and was delighted to discover it had a well-written older women who even got to have sex!

It reminds me of Carnivale (also from HBO) in that aspect. There are some superlatively well-written older women there too. I defy you not to be impressed by Rita Sue as the series progresses. Initially, she looks like a shallow character, but there are enormous depths to her. And Ruthie is another favourite of mine.

Date: 2006-05-14 06:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com
Rita Sue and Ruthie are both mothers and both have other qualities that are developed during the series.

Date: 2006-05-14 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Oh, I so agree about Rita Sue and Ruthie (and would add Iris to the well written older woman of Carnivale). I loved the first season. (Alas for the second.)

Date: 2006-05-14 07:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com
I have not had a chance to see the second season. Was it really that bad?

Date: 2006-05-15 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
It has its moments, and Ben in particular gets some nice character development. But generally speaking? Moral ambiguity, same sex and cross generational relationships have left the building; it's tempting to connect this with Ron Moore's departure from the show as co producer, as he went on to head the new BSG at that time and both Daniel Knauf and Moore himself had mentioned in interviews that things like Justin's s1 arc were Moore's addition (in Daniel Knauf's original pilot, Justin was already an evil preacher (tm)).

Date: 2006-05-15 06:25 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com
That's a real shame - Justin's realisation of what was happening to him was one of the things that lifted the series out of cliche.

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