Heroes 2.10 Truths and Consequences
Nov. 27th, 2007 12:38 pmStill busy, still short review, still out of tune with fandom at large, I bet.
Because I loved Mohinder's unrepentant "Well, tough" attitude towards Noah Bennet after he resurrected him. Especially after reading all the bashing last week. "You have nobody to blame but yourself." Because, you know, it's true. (Incidentally, since Bob delivers the fake ashes and since Mohinder has the blood to resurrect Noah first and then try it out on the virus, I'm assuming the Noah body snatching and resurrection was with Bob's full knowledge. I'm curious whether or not Bob told Mohinder first that this was plan B in case Noah got violent, or after Mohinder shot.) There were other factors as well, but mostly Noah chose the path that led him to a Company cell.
Loved Mohinder's attitude towards Bob as well, and may I say, for everyone screaming about his "stupidity" re: working with the Company for real, here we see he took the trouble of a little research and found out how the virus got into being to begin with (i.e. whose fault that was - theirs), and then does something about it, something constructive, such as getting Bob to tell him where the various samples are, as opposed to, you know, shooting the guy "so my family will be safe". I continue to marvel that this season made me into a Mohinder partisan, but it has. Go, Mohinder's storyline. Which is why as opposed to 99% of fandom I'm actually a bit disappointed about the impending Mohinder/Sylar reunion, because you know, we've tread this ground before. Double Agent!Mohinder is way more interesting than last year's Mohinder, and I still think they should have killed Sylar off in last season's finale. I'd rather have his volume 2 storyline end with Company scenes than in yet another Sylar showdown. Is it too much to hope that at least this one will end with Sylar really really dead? (Killed by Maya, Mohinder or himself, I don't care, just as long as there is no more Sylar.)
Bob was again extermely interesting this week, manipulative with Elle, apparantly honestly interested in stopping the virus with Mohinder (and hey, the story he told Nathan re: Adam and Adam's motivations gets verified elsewhere), and chancing it out with the grieving Bennet clan. Sandra was great in that scene, and I think her shooting Bob was a genuine probability. He didn't have to deliver the "ashes" in person (presumably he has enough flunkies who could have done that for him). And of course we don't know yet why he went to the trouble to resurrect Noah to begin with (I doubt it was just to indulge Mohinder).
Speaking of Elle, Claire had her best scene this episode with her, and I hope that's an omen for things to come, because their interaction has sparks, no pun intended, and besides, I'm really curious whether Claire is angry and vengeful enough to go further in her threat to tell the public about the specials.
I made a bit of fun of Peter in
wee_warrior's lj for his out of sight, of of mind attitude towards girlfriends a few days ago, and hereby apologize. Mind you, I know fandom and it's going to complain about this, but I think Peter being shown to a) attempt one more time to retrieve Caitlin from the virus-ridden future and b) being concerned with saving her later on was the right narrative choice, because it is completely his responsibility that she is in this situation. Now I don't find Caitlin a very interesting character, either, but to just ignore her and forget about her would have made Peter look very callous, so I'm glad this didn't happen. Moreover, given that he got a graphic illustration that the virus will wipe out 93% of the population (and got told Nathan died in the first wave), I'm not surprised he puts "stop the virus" before any family reunions.
Of course, he's currently travelling with Ras Al'Gul. Am feeling a bit smug that I put my money on Adam being eviler than the Company when everyone else wanted the reverse to be true. My reason for this, btw, was admittedly reverse shallow one: I didn't want a division where Good Looking Adam is just misunderstood whereas paunchy balding and middle aged Bob is evil (tm). Anyway, I was wondering how Hiro would find out that Takezo Kensei is now Adam Monroe, and just where to find Adam, and hadn't bet on that time trip, which was a neat flashback to Ye Olde Days. I loved the consistency of Kaito being all for locking up Adam, but not of getting rid for the virus for good or for parting ways with the others, because we know he didn't do that for many years to come. Most intriguing was Victoria's observation that Adam had allies among the twelve re: virus. Obvious suspects would be Linderman and Maury, but I'm wondering whether or not Angela was one back then (but not now) and that's why she got away with wounds but wasn't killed yet currently.
Current day Victoria certainly doesn't trust anyone named Petrelli (which is interesting, considering Angela's determination to keep her secret from Matt last week, but then again Victoria also makes the "you look like her" observation to Peter, in which she sounds ambiguous). Peter at this point trusts Adam over her, for which he'll undoubtedly get bashed, but Adam has the "healed Nathan, was fellow prisoner" advantage, and I think given Peter's reaction to Adam shooting Victoria, he's actually suspicious by now. But again, destroying the virus takes precedence.
I loved Niki's reunion with Micah and Monica deciding to get his father's medal back for him. Yes, she gets captured, but give the girl a break - she's not immune to bullets, is she?
So, predictions:
- Depending on whether Mohinder is at the airport of New Orleans or in New York (I didn't get that, will have to rewatch), he'll deliver the antibodies to Niki first before turning back in the first case, or will turn around immediately in the second, but I hope in either case, he'll remember he's living with a cop and will call Matt about the Sylar-has-Molly situation immediately
- Micah will get his Fantastic Four minus One team-up, as Niki will save Monica
- Hiro's attack on Peter will be stopped by Peter zapping Hiro, which in turn will break the time freeze, at which point a Hiro-Kensei/Adam encounter won't be the only one to happen, because I'm pretty convinced this will be the point where Nathan shows up
- why is Nathan in Odessa? Because Bob by now has to know about Victoria's death (complete with photo, thank you, Adam) and can deduce Adam has teamed up with Peter and will go after his old goal, the virus. Which makes getting Nathan to Odessa the smart thing to do, because that at the very least will rob Adam of his multi-super-powered ally
- either Peter or Claire or Adam will consume the fatal strand of the virus, because of the emphasis on the regenerators this season, and I'm thinking Alien III and Ripley pregnant with the Alien flinging herself into the fire
- oh, and Noah B. will rejoin the Company, concluding that the way to REALLY get safety is to get to the top spot himself.
And again, as opposed to the majority of fandom who hopes Sylar will kill Maya, I hope Maya will kill Sylar. Or someone else can kill Sylar. As long as someone does.
Because I loved Mohinder's unrepentant "Well, tough" attitude towards Noah Bennet after he resurrected him. Especially after reading all the bashing last week. "You have nobody to blame but yourself." Because, you know, it's true. (Incidentally, since Bob delivers the fake ashes and since Mohinder has the blood to resurrect Noah first and then try it out on the virus, I'm assuming the Noah body snatching and resurrection was with Bob's full knowledge. I'm curious whether or not Bob told Mohinder first that this was plan B in case Noah got violent, or after Mohinder shot.) There were other factors as well, but mostly Noah chose the path that led him to a Company cell.
Loved Mohinder's attitude towards Bob as well, and may I say, for everyone screaming about his "stupidity" re: working with the Company for real, here we see he took the trouble of a little research and found out how the virus got into being to begin with (i.e. whose fault that was - theirs), and then does something about it, something constructive, such as getting Bob to tell him where the various samples are, as opposed to, you know, shooting the guy "so my family will be safe". I continue to marvel that this season made me into a Mohinder partisan, but it has. Go, Mohinder's storyline. Which is why as opposed to 99% of fandom I'm actually a bit disappointed about the impending Mohinder/Sylar reunion, because you know, we've tread this ground before. Double Agent!Mohinder is way more interesting than last year's Mohinder, and I still think they should have killed Sylar off in last season's finale. I'd rather have his volume 2 storyline end with Company scenes than in yet another Sylar showdown. Is it too much to hope that at least this one will end with Sylar really really dead? (Killed by Maya, Mohinder or himself, I don't care, just as long as there is no more Sylar.)
Bob was again extermely interesting this week, manipulative with Elle, apparantly honestly interested in stopping the virus with Mohinder (and hey, the story he told Nathan re: Adam and Adam's motivations gets verified elsewhere), and chancing it out with the grieving Bennet clan. Sandra was great in that scene, and I think her shooting Bob was a genuine probability. He didn't have to deliver the "ashes" in person (presumably he has enough flunkies who could have done that for him). And of course we don't know yet why he went to the trouble to resurrect Noah to begin with (I doubt it was just to indulge Mohinder).
Speaking of Elle, Claire had her best scene this episode with her, and I hope that's an omen for things to come, because their interaction has sparks, no pun intended, and besides, I'm really curious whether Claire is angry and vengeful enough to go further in her threat to tell the public about the specials.
I made a bit of fun of Peter in
Of course, he's currently travelling with Ras Al'Gul. Am feeling a bit smug that I put my money on Adam being eviler than the Company when everyone else wanted the reverse to be true. My reason for this, btw, was admittedly reverse shallow one: I didn't want a division where Good Looking Adam is just misunderstood whereas paunchy balding and middle aged Bob is evil (tm). Anyway, I was wondering how Hiro would find out that Takezo Kensei is now Adam Monroe, and just where to find Adam, and hadn't bet on that time trip, which was a neat flashback to Ye Olde Days. I loved the consistency of Kaito being all for locking up Adam, but not of getting rid for the virus for good or for parting ways with the others, because we know he didn't do that for many years to come. Most intriguing was Victoria's observation that Adam had allies among the twelve re: virus. Obvious suspects would be Linderman and Maury, but I'm wondering whether or not Angela was one back then (but not now) and that's why she got away with wounds but wasn't killed yet currently.
Current day Victoria certainly doesn't trust anyone named Petrelli (which is interesting, considering Angela's determination to keep her secret from Matt last week, but then again Victoria also makes the "you look like her" observation to Peter, in which she sounds ambiguous). Peter at this point trusts Adam over her, for which he'll undoubtedly get bashed, but Adam has the "healed Nathan, was fellow prisoner" advantage, and I think given Peter's reaction to Adam shooting Victoria, he's actually suspicious by now. But again, destroying the virus takes precedence.
I loved Niki's reunion with Micah and Monica deciding to get his father's medal back for him. Yes, she gets captured, but give the girl a break - she's not immune to bullets, is she?
So, predictions:
- Depending on whether Mohinder is at the airport of New Orleans or in New York (I didn't get that, will have to rewatch), he'll deliver the antibodies to Niki first before turning back in the first case, or will turn around immediately in the second, but I hope in either case, he'll remember he's living with a cop and will call Matt about the Sylar-has-Molly situation immediately
- Micah will get his Fantastic Four minus One team-up, as Niki will save Monica
- Hiro's attack on Peter will be stopped by Peter zapping Hiro, which in turn will break the time freeze, at which point a Hiro-Kensei/Adam encounter won't be the only one to happen, because I'm pretty convinced this will be the point where Nathan shows up
- why is Nathan in Odessa? Because Bob by now has to know about Victoria's death (complete with photo, thank you, Adam) and can deduce Adam has teamed up with Peter and will go after his old goal, the virus. Which makes getting Nathan to Odessa the smart thing to do, because that at the very least will rob Adam of his multi-super-powered ally
- either Peter or Claire or Adam will consume the fatal strand of the virus, because of the emphasis on the regenerators this season, and I'm thinking Alien III and Ripley pregnant with the Alien flinging herself into the fire
- oh, and Noah B. will rejoin the Company, concluding that the way to REALLY get safety is to get to the top spot himself.
And again, as opposed to the majority of fandom who hopes Sylar will kill Maya, I hope Maya will kill Sylar. Or someone else can kill Sylar. As long as someone does.
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Date: 2007-11-28 12:05 am (UTC)Yay! I'm totally with you on that. I always thought they should have made Mohinder The Scientist and only The Scientist in season 1 (as opposed to the Scientist's-son-who-believes-and-then-doesn't-and-then-believes-again-and-blah) and that's exactly what he's doing this season. Science and morality only, thanks.
I still think they should have killed Sylar off in last season's finale.
Thank God, I'm not the only one to think so! I love Sylar, but that's the problem when you start loving your characters too much. It weakens the story.
Now I don't find Caitlin a very interesting character, either, but to just ignore her and forget about her would have made Peter look very callous, so I'm glad this didn't happen.
Oh, how much do I love you tonight? I think the problem with Caitlin is that they made her a love interest instead of simply a friendly girl who helped him deal with his memory loss. Or something. I don't know, but the romance is hard to buy between these two. It's sad because Caitlin could have been such an interesting character. But hey, I agree Peter forgetting about her would have made things worse.
Speaking of Elle, Claire had her best scene this episode with her, and I hope that's an omen for things to come, because their interaction has sparks, no pun intended, and besides, I'm really curious whether Claire is angry and vengeful enough to go further in her threat to tell the public about the specials.
That was definitely the best scene in my opinion. Pissedoff!Claire versus Clumsy!Elle. How unexpected and interesting was that to watch?!
:o)
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Date: 2007-11-28 07:17 am (UTC)Absolutely. This year's Mohinder does not stare endlessly on a computer screen, and his dilemmas aren't "so was Dad on to something or wasn't he?", it's "there are only bad choices I can make in the situation I'm in, so which ones help more people and get less people killed?" Way more interesting.
I think the problem with Caitlin is that they made her a love interest instead of simply a friendly girl who helped him deal with his memory loss. Or something. I don't know, but the romance is hard to buy between these two. It's sad because Caitlin could have been such an interesting character. But hey, I agree Peter forgetting about her would have made things worse.
Restrospectively, the main reason why Caitlin became a love interest was obviously so Peter has additional personal incentive to stop the virus future, and I don't think that would have been necessary - 93% of the population plus Nathan would have been enough. But be that as it may, once you establish something like this, you can't let your character simply ignore it without making him look bad. If you want to maintain credibility for Peter as a caring person, you can't just let him abandon a girl he brought into a hellish world (and who has just lost her brother thanks to him already). Now I think that as with Simone last season, the fact the romance doesn't work as a romance hasn't been lost on the producers, and I doubt Caitlin will be back to settle down with Peter any time soon, but he had to try to rescue her and continue to remember his responsibility for her fate.
(My ideal scenario would be: once the immediate crisis is dealt with, Peter manages to successfully transport into the future again, retrieves Caitlin, who is shaken enough by everything that happened to say she'd rather be back in Ireland and single and far from any people with superpowers for the rest of her life, thanks, we get a farewell scene, and that's that. I don't want her to be dead in either the future or the present, because that would heighten the killed women quota even more.)
Pissedoff!Claire versus Clumsy!Elle. How unexpected and interesting was that to watch?!
And talk about good chemistry. There aren't nearly enough interesting relationships between women on this show, and I hope for more between these two.
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Date: 2007-11-29 05:11 am (UTC)Hum, I hadn't notice but now I have to admit... *scratches head* I don't think there is any.
Your ideal scenario: YES PLEASE!