Doctor Who 4/30.06 The Doctor's Daughter
May. 11th, 2008 06:39 amIn which we learn that Peter Davison has really awesome genetics.
Seriously, while casting an actress who's the daughter of the actor who played the Fifth Doctor as, well, the Doctor's daughter might have been a gimmik, it paid off. She was very endearing and absolutely believable as a cross between the Doctor's genetic make-up and conditioning via machine who becomes her own person in the short space of an episode. Said episode, written by Stephen Greenhorn who last wrote The Lazarus Experiment in s3, was, like that earlier episode, good though not spectacular, with the usual DW dodgy science. I really enjoyed it. We got more Donna 'n Martha bonding, Donna using her temp skills to figure things out again, Martha being a doctor (when she got captured again I was prepared to groan, but then she stopped being a captive in no times flat, won by medical skills and made her way to the source, so that was good), and good character stuff for the Doctor. Including more confirmation of the theory voiced by several reviewers last week, that the increased Pavlovian reaction to soldiers and guns of the last two regenerations is because of the Time War, not despite of it, i.e. projected self-loathing. However, there is also indication of healing - note the difference to the Fear Her remark, "I was a dad once" to Rose, which when Rose was shocked was immediately followed by distracting babble, whereas here he really talks with Donna about it. Which I ascribe not just to the difference in relationships with Rose and Donna but also to the difference of emotional states between then and now. The initial avoidance of Jenny turning into acceptance and joy and the willingness to start again mirroring that other emotional journey.
Re: Jenny's death and return - several possibilities. She could have been in a healing coma (see also: Three after getting shot but not regnerating in Frontiers in Space), or she could have taken longer to return from the dead after being shot (see also: Seven to Eight in ye dreadful tv movie) and, because unlike every other Time Lord she did not know she was supposed to change form, regenerated into her old one by instinct. Or, since "The Christmas Invasion" made it canon Time Lords can regrow organs within the first 24 hours of their regeneration, and she wasn't yet a day old, she could have simply healed from within because of that. But she's obviously set up to return to the show at some point. Finale? Specials? Who knows. And the fanfic possibilities are endless.
I loved the two hearts scene - which was a great example of both Donna being practical on a Watsonian and of showing, not telling on a Doylist level, and David Tennant was awesome in playing the Doctor's reaction with just his changing expression and nearly no text. And we got This is Gallifrey on the soundtrack again! Jenny's death scene was a strong echo of the Master's and at the same time a direct contrast, with Jenny dying because she wanted to protect him instead of wanting to devastate him in order to finally win.
And lastly: Donna, don't say forever! You might as well have signed your death warrant. Oh, I hope they'll find another way, and there are angsty precedences other than Rose of how to have an companion exit when neither he/she nor the Doctor want the separation - just ask Jamie and Zoe. Though I can't decide whether a mindwipe (which is what Jamie and Zoe got) might not even break me more than a death, because Donna should keep these memories. And stay alive, damn it! Find another way to explain the "we can't keep Catherine for more than a season" thing, team Cardiff, get creative!
Seriously, while casting an actress who's the daughter of the actor who played the Fifth Doctor as, well, the Doctor's daughter might have been a gimmik, it paid off. She was very endearing and absolutely believable as a cross between the Doctor's genetic make-up and conditioning via machine who becomes her own person in the short space of an episode. Said episode, written by Stephen Greenhorn who last wrote The Lazarus Experiment in s3, was, like that earlier episode, good though not spectacular, with the usual DW dodgy science. I really enjoyed it. We got more Donna 'n Martha bonding, Donna using her temp skills to figure things out again, Martha being a doctor (when she got captured again I was prepared to groan, but then she stopped being a captive in no times flat, won by medical skills and made her way to the source, so that was good), and good character stuff for the Doctor. Including more confirmation of the theory voiced by several reviewers last week, that the increased Pavlovian reaction to soldiers and guns of the last two regenerations is because of the Time War, not despite of it, i.e. projected self-loathing. However, there is also indication of healing - note the difference to the Fear Her remark, "I was a dad once" to Rose, which when Rose was shocked was immediately followed by distracting babble, whereas here he really talks with Donna about it. Which I ascribe not just to the difference in relationships with Rose and Donna but also to the difference of emotional states between then and now. The initial avoidance of Jenny turning into acceptance and joy and the willingness to start again mirroring that other emotional journey.
Re: Jenny's death and return - several possibilities. She could have been in a healing coma (see also: Three after getting shot but not regnerating in Frontiers in Space), or she could have taken longer to return from the dead after being shot (see also: Seven to Eight in ye dreadful tv movie) and, because unlike every other Time Lord she did not know she was supposed to change form, regenerated into her old one by instinct. Or, since "The Christmas Invasion" made it canon Time Lords can regrow organs within the first 24 hours of their regeneration, and she wasn't yet a day old, she could have simply healed from within because of that. But she's obviously set up to return to the show at some point. Finale? Specials? Who knows. And the fanfic possibilities are endless.
I loved the two hearts scene - which was a great example of both Donna being practical on a Watsonian and of showing, not telling on a Doylist level, and David Tennant was awesome in playing the Doctor's reaction with just his changing expression and nearly no text. And we got This is Gallifrey on the soundtrack again! Jenny's death scene was a strong echo of the Master's and at the same time a direct contrast, with Jenny dying because she wanted to protect him instead of wanting to devastate him in order to finally win.
And lastly: Donna, don't say forever! You might as well have signed your death warrant. Oh, I hope they'll find another way, and there are angsty precedences other than Rose of how to have an companion exit when neither he/she nor the Doctor want the separation - just ask Jamie and Zoe. Though I can't decide whether a mindwipe (which is what Jamie and Zoe got) might not even break me more than a death, because Donna should keep these memories. And stay alive, damn it! Find another way to explain the "we can't keep Catherine for more than a season" thing, team Cardiff, get creative!
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Date: 2008-05-11 04:44 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-12 02:21 am (UTC)Dustwhatever it is Time Lords have that triggers regeneration/healing.I liked this one a crazy shit ton despite the fact that the plot is COMPLETELY stolen from Star Trek Three. It's because of all the resonance.
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Date: 2008-05-12 10:43 am (UTC)Point about the colours.
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Date: 2008-05-11 08:31 am (UTC)Lastly: I want to see the Doctor in a position where he has to give her The Talk. Though he probably would try to make Donna do it for him. *g*
(Otoh, he definitely wouldn't let Jack do it. *has visions of Jack hitting on Jenny and being confronted with Darkside!Doctor*...)
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Date: 2008-05-11 08:19 pm (UTC)LOL! I'd love to see you fic that.
I'm so shallow - I loved Jenny mostly for being so sparkly and pretty. When she smiled at the guard, I froze frame and went, "Yay, Kristen Bell's smile on an even prettier face!"
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Date: 2008-05-12 03:55 am (UTC)Jenny is very pretty. Five done good, yes. (Now that there are icons using close-ups about, the facial resemblance to the Fifth Doctor, aka the actress' Dad, is really striking.)
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Date: 2008-05-13 02:18 pm (UTC)LOL! I'd love to see you fic that.
I didn't, but the Doctor at theatrical_muse put up a great funny post to that effect:
http://rude-not-ginger.livejournal.com/150132.html
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Date: 2008-05-24 02:06 pm (UTC)I read somewhere that she'd been cast in that Spooks spin-off that's due later next year, but given the cast turnover in the parent series, it's hard to say how permanent such a role would be.
Lastly: I want to see the Doctor in a position where he has to give her The Talk. Though he probably would try to make Donna do it for him. *g*
Ahahahaha. I can imagine.
(Otoh, he definitely wouldn't let Jack do it. *has visions of Jack hitting on Jenny and being confronted with Darkside!Doctor*...)
Oh, boy, yes. It would be even funnier if Jenny liked being hit on by Jack.
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Date: 2008-05-11 11:36 am (UTC)I also have been enjoying these last three episodes with Martha's return, and now Jenny. It would have been very disappointing had she died.
Now, we have a Time Lord without portfolio, plus the ingrained training of a soldier, out there running about without the least clue as to the extent of her physical or mental capabilities. It'll be very interesting to see how she copes with what she finds, not only about the universe, but about her own people's past and the mystery that is the Doctor.
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Date: 2008-05-11 03:32 pm (UTC)I'm very glad you came around to liking Donna. And the relationship dynamics this season all around are a joy to behold - Donna and the Doctor, Donna and Martha (so glad they hit it off!), Martha and the Doctor (on a much more even footing than last season), and in this latest episode Donna, Jenny and the Doctor. *hearts season 4*
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Date: 2008-05-11 12:25 pm (UTC)Otherwise an enjoyable episode.
And I really hope Donna suvives with all her experiences intact. She's turned into my favorite companion of the new series. She's so amazing right with Ten but would have been just so wrong with Nine...
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Date: 2008-05-11 03:37 pm (UTC)A mention of Susan by name would have been nice, but we got the "I've been a father before" conversation which I loved - especially how the Doctor opened up emotionally to Donna about this - so I'm good.
Completely agreed about Donna - my favourite New Who companion, definitely. She and Nine would have rubbed each other just the wrong way, but with Ten she's terrific. *crosses fingers for Donna's survival and memories*
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Date: 2008-05-11 02:49 pm (UTC)Oh, hadn't thought of that! I like it. My thought was that it was the life-bringing power of the source, because the effects were so similar, instead of being golden like in regenerations scenes.
OH DONNA NO. DONNAAA.
This episode was strange to me, because I didn't love it, though I thought there was some great character stuff, but I agree when everyone says what they loved! I'll have to watch it again at a later date.
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Date: 2008-07-02 06:33 pm (UTC)What if different regenrations breed with his clones?
Ewwwwwwwwwwww. Shades of Lazarus Long....
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Date: 2008-07-05 03:55 pm (UTC)Just wanted to let you know, if you didn't notice, that you tagged this episode "doctor who" instead of "dr. who," like you did most of the others, so when I checked your "dr. who" tag to go through your backlog of reviews, this one didn't come up, but I figured you just had to have reviewed it, so found this just going post by post from "Poison Sky". Thought you might want to fix the tag, just so the review wouldn't be missed by someone else checking your Who-y archives. :)
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