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Busy gallivanting between north and south (and am I ever glad not to live in Berlin, thought I this morning, when the traffic was horrible), and in lieu of several fannish posts on various subjects lurking in the back of my mind, you get just links for lack of time:


Watchmen, the short version: TRUFAX. Though I fear people who don't have the patience to read Alan Moore before the film hits the screens next year will feel adrift. *veg*


Star Trek the original series: your grandmother's fandom, but it could also be yours: thoughtful overview by [livejournal.com profile] penknife, listing favourite TOS episodes, movies and books. Ah, Star Trek. I'm a DS9 and TNG fangirl most of all, but TOS was my childhood, and my fondness continues. Though when I get around to writing the longer posts lurking in the back of my mind, one of them will include a rant about how declarations that only TOS was "real" Star Trek (as opposed to TNG and DS9, etc.) do not endear the person who makes them to me (I'm looking at you, JJ).

Date: 2008-11-20 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skywaterblue.livejournal.com
Though when I get around to writing the longer posts lurking in the back of my mind, one of them will include a rant about how declarations that only TOS was "real" Star Trek (as opposed to TNG and DS9, etc.) do not endear the person who makes them to me (I'm looking at you, JJ).

Yes, your turn! I've already done so once this week.

Date: 2008-11-21 05:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
It occurs to me that I already did this once in musical form, when I was writing the trio of BTVS having a ST argument with song in that story I co-wrote with Andraste. But I feel a mini-rant coming up anyway.*g*

Date: 2008-11-20 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] futuresoon.livejournal.com
Oh, I won't say that TOS was the only "real" Star Trek. It was just the best Star Trek.

Date: 2008-11-21 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
These are fighting words, young padawan, and I now shall have to write that entry. Also, have a link to the musical form of this debate (http://selenak.livejournal.com/26434.html), which then led to a complete story about the TRUTH behind certain events in Sunnydale (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1495298/1/Trio_The_Musical)!

P.S. The exchange on my icon is an actual DS9 quote.

Date: 2008-11-22 06:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] futuresoon.livejournal.com
...okay so maybe that Trio fic is kind of insanely awesome. I don't read Buffy fic! The fandom is large and scary and full of scary canon! But I can totally be down with musical fics no matter which fandom they are in, especially if they contain lyrics like "Special editions with holofoil covers/Fanfic where Garak and Bashir are lovers". And, ooh my, was that a bit of Andrew/Warren shippiness I saw in there? You know, I do this little mental dance every time I see you admit to actual slash. I'm not sure why.

Star Trek: both TNG and DS9 are on my "eventually" list, I'll admit; at the very least your passion for them gives me confidence in their quality, and also I do want to expand my Trek knowledge beyond TOS. But it is sort of like Doctors, isn't it? Sure, you can love all of them, but oh, your first Doctor, deep down you know he's your Doctor...and TOS is my Star Trek.

Date: 2008-11-22 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Slash: If you were familiar with Babylon 5, I could link you to stories where I wrote m/m action, you know. In lieu of that, have another BTVS link, Five things which never happened to Warren (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1467137/1/Five_Things_Which_Never_Happened_To_Warren), as one of those five things does include Warren/Andrew. (Also, this was the first but not the last time I used the "Five Things..." concept in any fandom, and I'm pretty proud of it.)

Back to the musical: Andraste and I had insane fun writing those songs, I tell you. And were somewhat smug about having come up with a better explanation as to who summoned Sweet than Joss did. *g*

Date: 2008-11-22 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] futuresoon.livejournal.com
Believe me, once I get to B5, I fully intend to check out the pairing you apparently invented. (Or were among the first to write, anyway.) It's like fandom history! And, oooooh, I think you linked me to that Warren fic before--but it's just as good as it was the first time, and I think I've gained a new appreciation for Warren/Andrew, even if that last section is kind of really creepy.

Date: 2008-11-20 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neuralclone.livejournal.com
"Your Grandmother's Fandom" - ugh, that makes me feel old! %-} My first fanfics were TOS - and tin those pre-TNG days they were simply "Star Trek" without any qualifications.

I've been re-watching TOS recently, btw, having managed to find affordable 2nd hand copies of the boxed sets. There are some rather "meh" episodes, full of sixties sexism and Star Trek Cliches (watch the redshirts get it!) and there are also some really wonderful epiisodes which are still rivetting television.

Date: 2008-11-21 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
We're all getting old, she says with her 39 years and 40 approaching next year.*g* But yes, TOS: it definitely wasn't the best show ever or anything, but it produced some wonderful hours of tv, and I shall always love it accordingly.

Date: 2008-11-20 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nolivingman.livejournal.com
I liked when JJ admitted he didn't even watch Trek that much, that it was for his brainiac friends. Way to win over a fanbase, dude. I mean, I'll go see his version and I'll probably love it because JJ knows how to push all my fictional buttons, but he is being foolish.

I have heard fans of all the Treks say that theirs is the only real one. I've never understood why it's a contest. I haven't seen DS9 yet, but TOS and TNG are like apples and oranges; I like both.

Date: 2008-11-21 06:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Apples and oranges are a good comparison. DS9 is like mushrooms; sometimes heavy in the stomach, but my absolutely favourite dish. But why would that preclude me loving apples and oranges as well, I ask you?

And yes, JJ. Mind you, the article I've read was written by one of those idiot reporters who writes comments like "after Galaxy Quest, is it even possible to make an ST movie without being laughed out of the hosue?" Way to miss the point of Galaxy Quest.

Date: 2008-11-21 12:45 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] re-weird.livejournal.com
Having just read Watchmen last weekend, that was hilarious. Thanks for the linl.

Date: 2008-11-21 06:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
You're welcome!

Date: 2008-11-21 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] midnightsjane.livejournal.com
I am old enough to qualify as some of my flist's grandmother...and I remember watching the original Star Trek when the episodes first aired on TV! So TOS was my first Star Trek love, but there is room enough in my Trekkie heart for all the others...except Enterprise. Bah! we will speak no more of it!
I think I even have some of those Jean Lorrah 'zines Penknife spoke about somewhere in my library. I remember how delightfully smutty the Amanda/Sarek stories were in them..

Date: 2008-11-21 06:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
*is silent on the subject of a certain show as well*

And yes, I never understood why one shouldn't love more than one ST show, either. I mean, could there be a more wonderful love declaration to a TOS character than the TNG episode Sarek was, or to TOS as a show than the DS9 ep Trials and Tribble-ations was? Hooray for inter-Trek love, I say.

Date: 2008-11-22 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] midnightsjane.livejournal.com
Hooray for inter-Trek love, I say.
Exactly! Completely logical and reasonable.

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