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Fringe 4.17

Apr. 8th, 2012 04:08 pm
selenak: (Redlivia by Monanotlisa)
[personal profile] selenak
In which a perfectly fine episode confirms me in a resolution.



Which is to break up with the show for good. It's not the episode as such. It was good to see the Redverse again, it was a great character episode for Lincoln, containing some good continuity nods like Red!Olivia's marksmanship (and btw, such a relief to see an Olivia without show infllicted Alzheimer's and Only Romantic Love counts ethics), the overall plot was moved forward - but it also underlined several things which were increasingly bothering me, and if your misery with a show continues to outweigh the joy it gives you, you should say goodbye rather than to continue making yourself miserable.

The problems, in order:

1.) Like the scene between Olivia and Nina two eps ago, like the scene between Broyles and Olivia last episode where he mentions her Amberverse nephew, the scene between Now-Blue-Again Olivia and Blue/Amber Lincoln could not have been more perfectly written if the intention was to make me loathe what the show did to Olivia with every vibre in my heart. She continues to lose every not-Peter memory and relationship, and the show doesn't even allow her to be upset about it. I hate that, and I will never not hate it.

2.) Also, letting Olivia lose her Lincoln-related memories, several of which postdate Peter's return to the 'verses, is bad and lazy world building; the obvious Doylist reason is to make sure Blue!Lincoln has no reason to stay in the Amberverse, but there's no Watsonian logic in it. Also, note it's about Lincoln, not Olivia.

3.) Killing off Redverse Lincoln so that Blueverse Lincoln can take his place, making for neat symmetry in pairings and a treat for the fans who ship Olivia (either) with Lincoln (either) without upsetting the Peter/Olivia OTP the show insists on is also lazy writing.

4.) Most importantly, again: last episode Peter took OurOlivia's place, which only illustrates graphically what was true thematically for a while - that her story has become his story. This week, what we got was most definitely Lincoln's story. Which I wouldn't mind in other circumstances - I like Lincoln (both of them; vale, Redverse guy, sacrificed for shipperness, ugh), and I'm all for supporting characters getting their turn in the sun - but in the grand scheme of things, it just rubs it in: The Blue-and-Amberverse is Peter's story, the Redverse now has become Lincoln's story, no universe anywhere has Olivia (any of them) as the one with the central story or pov anymore.

Back when I was watching The Sarah Connor Chronicles, this was what I was secretly afraid would happen when they introduced Derek Reese in the last third of s1. But on SCC, it never did. All the characters had their stories, but Sarah's story, Sarah's agenda, never stopped being key. On Fringe, it did happen, and as opposed to many shows who reinvented themselves and took me with them, this one just reminds me with every episode of the show I lost. And so I will stop watching.

Date: 2012-04-08 03:08 pm (UTC)
viggorlijah: Klee (Default)
From: [personal profile] viggorlijah
If there is a magnificent twist in which this all becomes Somehow Clear and Olivia's memory loss - I thought about what you wrote last time, and this time, I could see it in the absence of her loss, while everyone around her is watching her vanish, like some bizarre Alchzeimers - I will let you know! But breaking up with a show before it becomes bitter makes sense. I still get heated thinking about Glee.

Date: 2012-04-08 04:56 pm (UTC)
chaila: by me (fringe - olivia)
From: [personal profile] chaila
These are all my thoughts, right down to secretly being afraid TSCC would do it with Derek and loving it for not going there. This episode was fine, but mostly because it was just a relief to get away from the universe where Olivia is losing every memory and relationship that isn't about Peter, and after the initial decision this is apparently completely uncomplicated for her. But yes, it was still all about Lincoln. Which would usually be fine! Supporting characters yay! Except that we never get Olivia episodes at all anymore, or the ones that are supposed to be Olivia episodes are really Peter episodes. And we won't get an Altlivia episode except this one, I'm sure. Plus it was just bizarre to have an episode with so many themes about choices being what makes people different, and then the resolution making it seem like blue Lincoln can just replace alt Lincoln for Altlivia. And blue Lincoln has no reason to miss the blue verse, just because Olivia is in love with someone else? Which the show made sure to tell us multiple times, I guess to simplify the internal conflict he really ought to otherwise be feeling. It's such lazy, boring writing, compared to the interesting ideas inherent in this premise. Now it's a show where a potential romantic relationship apparently solves all problems and all character conflicts? I'm not very good at cutting off shows, but I really ought to try.

Date: 2012-04-08 09:49 pm (UTC)
jesuswasbatman: (Press (1) for a airstrike (by Daisy))
From: [personal profile] jesuswasbatman
And the really clever thing about TSCC was the way that they didn't just not go with Sarah/Derek, but how they tricked the audience into believing initially that Jesse was just a love interest for Derek to close off Sarah/Derek as an avenue, before revealing her own very interesting agenda and personal story.

Date: 2012-04-09 01:54 am (UTC)
lilacsigil: Nina Sharp from Fringe (Nina Sharp)
From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
I'm so disappointed in this show. I'm not to the point of not watching yet, because I still have a hope that they will do something redeeming, but my hope is shrinking every episode.

Date: 2012-04-09 09:57 am (UTC)
bimo: (Fivey_drawing)
From: [personal profile] bimo
this one just reminds me with every episode of the show I lost. And so I will stop watching.

While I still haven't watched more than just a few random eps and am therefore in absolutely no position to offer any sense-making Fringe-related comment -- Good grief, does the sentiment itself feel familiar! Due South, ER, ST:Enterprise (no complete break-up here, but the decision to skip an entire season). And each time the decision proved right, especially with hindsight, because it in the long run, quitting enabled me to hold on to my enjoyment for the original source material without any frustration or negativity. I still enjoy re-watches, fan fiction, vids and meta, the full fannish programme... ;-)

The X-Files or Buffy, (which I personally should both have quit after S5 but didn't) are an entirely different kettle of fish. There's a perfectly fine X-Files S1 box set waiting on my DVD shelf, and I still haven't even wrapped off the plastic...

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