Character Meme
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selenakMeme, copied from various places:
Name a character in any of my fandoms, and I'll answer these questions:
1. Do you love/hate/don’t feel strongly about this character?
2. What’s your favorite trait of this character?
3. What’s your favorite moment/event involving this character?
4. If you could have one power/attribute/etc. of this character, what would it be?
5. Have you ever pictured this character naked?
6. When did you fall in love/hate with this character? I you don’t have any strong feelings toward them, why not?
7. Who’s your OTP for this character, if any?
Name a character in any of my fandoms, and I'll answer these questions:
1. Do you love/hate/don’t feel strongly about this character?
2. What’s your favorite trait of this character?
3. What’s your favorite moment/event involving this character?
4. If you could have one power/attribute/etc. of this character, what would it be?
5. Have you ever pictured this character naked?
6. When did you fall in love/hate with this character? I you don’t have any strong feelings toward them, why not?
7. Who’s your OTP for this character, if any?
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Date: 2013-04-25 11:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-04-25 12:04 pm (UTC)2. Despite stern competition, no other character in the history of tv is that good at making one punch and hug him at the same time. Being infuriating and heartbreaking while also making one laugh: Londo Mollari could teach classes.
3. Really hard. It's a tie between The Best Scene Ever (aka the one with G'Kar in Fall of Centauri Prime) or Londo and a drunken Vir after Vir killed Cartagia. Both scenes, of course, showcase the respective relationships at a turning point.
4. His wit. Londo has such a talent for one liners. I can wing it a bit for fanfiction and back when I was playing him on Theatrical_Muse, but that's in writing, with plenty of time to think about the words. Londo makes it up as he goes.
5. No need. JMS even regaled us with the sight of his genitalia.
6. Midnight at the Firing Line, when Garibaldi points out the Centauri tried to con the humans with a "lost colony" tale, Londo says "cut my wrists", Garibaldi shoots back that Centauri don't have arteries there, and Londo says: "Well, of course not. What do you think I am, stupid?" That early, I was his. :)
7. Londo hails from a polygamous society, which means I can ship him with G'Kar and Timov at my heart's leisure. And of course in terms of ampersand and friendship with Vir.
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Date: 2013-04-26 02:44 pm (UTC)Yeah, there's not a lot of mystery left when the character has used his genitalia to cheat at cards.
Midnight at the Firing Line, when Garibaldi points out the Centauri tried to con the humans with a "lost colony" tale, Londo says "cut my wrists", Garibaldi shoots back that Centauri don't have arteries there, and Londo says: "Well, of course not. What do you think I am, stupid?" That early, I was his. :)
Awwwww. For me, it took until Born to the Purple, when Adira asked him what his password and he replied 'wine, women and song.' Oh, Londo.
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Date: 2013-04-25 11:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-04-25 12:17 pm (UTC)2. Despite what I just that: that she's such a child emotionally while also dangerous as hell in lashing out like a child. I do wish she'd be able to grow up, but she can be heartbreaking at times.
3. Regina makes Mr. Gold admit he knows he's Rumplestilskin. It's one of the few times when she manages something like that, though of course he's also still playing her. In terms of "oh, Regina, you are heartbreaking and appalling at the same time": letting Owen go. In the wilderness. A child whose father she just took prisoner. And yet, it's a heartbreaking thing on her part.
4. She's a far better cook than I am!
5. No.
6. See above as to why I don't love her though I like her.
7. I don't have any, but I can see Regina/Emma potential, absolutely.
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Date: 2013-04-25 12:44 pm (UTC)Oh, excellent. She's certainly a complex character. . .
5. No
this may set you apart from everyone I know in the fandom!
Also, I now want to make a list of evil or morally ambiguous characters who are canonically excellent cooks and set them up with a cooking school. It would either distract them from villainous hijinks or lead to a net increase in poisonings.... I'm sure there have to be some, though.
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Date: 2013-04-25 02:57 pm (UTC):) I think it's not just that I'm not attracted to Regina, specifically, but that I don't get what the big deal with nudity is. Possibly because in my childhood and adolescence, we went on holidays to Sylt (island in the Northern Sea with nudist beaches), and as Mr. Stephen Greenblatt remarked recently in Venice, we visit the Sauna in the nude here in Germany. Also the Englischer Garten topless when it's very hot. Anyway, the point being: I don't see the human body, uncovered, as necessarily more alluring than in its clothed form, because there is nothing mysterious about the bodies of strangers to me. Otoh I can think of some very alluring sights that involve people in various stages of clothing.
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Date: 2013-04-25 02:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-04-25 02:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-04-25 03:08 pm (UTC)2. She doesn't give up and she longs for something more. Whether that was finding the Vorlons, joining the B5 rebellion, joining Byron, becoming a leader of the telepaths eventually: it might not have always been a good decision, but it always comes down to the fact Lyta doesn't settle for things as they are but wonders what might be. Which is a great trait to have.
3. Her "being a freedom fighter, a force for good, it's a wonderful thing" conversation with Bester in Moments of Transition for the sheer amusement factor, but that's more a Bester moment, so, in terms of it being a great mixture of a serious Lyta character moment with a light touch added: her conversation with G'Kar in late season 5 (which will eventually lead to him inviting her to join him on his travels) where she remembers the Narn interest in the telepathic genes from the pilot as she and the resistance are short of cash. It's mostly serious stuff because Lyta has become harder and G'kar wiser since pilot times, but at the end, she teases him with the "no threshold" remark and you can see that despite all that happened to her, Lyta still has a sense of humor.
4. Her courage. Of which she has plenty. Going into Vorlon space on her own, burning her bridges with the only world she's known, that of the Corps? Kudos.
5. No.
6. Why did I never go from like to love with Lyta? Don't know. Like I said, she's interesting to me, but that extra bit that makes fannish love never happened. You can't force it.
7. I don't have one.
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Date: 2013-04-25 05:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-04-25 06:37 pm (UTC)1. I'm very fond of him. Now bear in mind I started with TNG, so this means I feel about him primarily in a TNG context, though after an initial "what the hell?" I eventually got around to accepting him on DS9.
2. He was the first Trek character (after Spock, admittedly, but Spock leaving Vulcan for Starfleet was a big deal of who he was) whom we saw bringing his own cultural context with him which sometimes superceded the Starfleet one. Later day watchers will never be able to emotionally get how revolutionary it was when Worf killed Duras instead of listening to Picard, or that we saw Worf talk about Klingon mythology and try to practice Klingon customs as best was possible on the Enterprise, or the Klingon political storylines. This just had never happened before. (Spock returned to Vulcan during the show precisely once. There were no storylines on Vulcan.). I'd go as far as say that DS9, the Bajorans and the Cardassians would not have been possible in Trek if TNG hadn't gone there first with Worf and all things Klingon and if the viewers hadn't reacted positively to it. This larger historical context aside, I like that Worf, for all that he's having a hangup about being more Klingon than Klingon because he was raised by humans and thus misses the party going most other Klingons seems to indulge in, actually has a dead pan sense of humor if you pay attention. Favourite example, from when Q is temporarily human and everyone thinks he's faking it due to earlier mindgames:
Q: I'm really human! What do I have to do to convince you people?
Worf: Die.
3. On the humorous side, when Q has transported them to Sherwood Forest: "Captain, I am NOT a Merry Man!" (It's Michael Dorn's delivers that sells the line.) On the serious side, in First Contact, when Picard, at this point losing it due to Borg trauma, tells Worf he's being a coward. Worf's reaction, the dignity, quiet steel and awareness how ooc it is for Picard to behave this way is such a great character moment, and ditto for the way he responds to Picard's apology many scenes later.
4. He scored with three of my favourite women in Trekdom - K'eyhlar, Deanna Troi and Jadzia Dax - so his love life wouldn't be bad to have. :)
5. No.
6. My first moment of "aw, Worf" came in "Heart of Glory", TNG's season 2, when he brought the renegade Klingons down but performed the death cry for them nonetheless. I definitely loved him when he went through the ostracism by the Klingon Council, hugged and turned his brother around so his brother, who lived in the Klingon world, would not share his banishment. (The DS9 episode Sons of Mogh is such a stupid follow up on this with the mind wipe, I can't tell you.)
7. I don't have one, but in terms of Worf's canonical romances, I loved the one with K'eyhlar, was never quite sold on the one with Deanna, and liked the one with Jadzia from the moment they had their "But you are not in my shoes!" "Pity. You'd be surprised what I can do in a pair of eight inch boots" exchange.
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Date: 2013-04-25 07:22 pm (UTC)I'll keep that in mind next time I whine about Worf causing an increase in Klingon episodes of DS9. I wish Worf's deadpan humor had been featured on DS9 more than once in a blue moon.
I'll have to watch "Heart of Glory". I actually liked "Sons of Mogh" -- despite its awful ending, it is the one Klingon episode I've seen that made me care about Klingon tradition and the tensions between Worf's duty as a Klingon vs. Federation law. It's also one of the rare times we see the boundaries of Jadzia Dax's relationship with Klingon tradition. She may be able to participate in Klingon culture more relaxedly than someone obsessed with a heritage that was not part of his upbringing, but ultimately her participation is a factor of interpersonal bonds and a compatible disposition; for Worf, it is an integral part of his identity.
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Date: 2013-04-25 07:38 pm (UTC)Heart of Glory isn't the ep with Worf's brother, I phrased that badly, it was the ep where I had my first "aw, Worf" moment. The one with Worf's brother Kurn was Sins of the Father, which also basically introduces Klingon politics and their home planet, never seen before (this was also before ST VI).
Good Klingon TNG eps for Worf development to watch:
Emissary (The one which introduces K'eyhlar, played by the fabulous Suzie Plakson; she's flippant and sexy, and you can see how Jadzia would remind Worf of her)
Sins of the Father (introduces Kurn, Duras, Mogh's backstory and Chancellor K'empec, a wily old fox - also the Klingon banishment ceremony, and because the ending for Kurn and Worf is so different you'll see why Sons of Mogh struck me as an inferior remake)
Reunion (K'eyhlar comes back, so do K'empec and Duras, Gowron gets introduced, and so does Alexander; this is the one where for the first time a Starfleet regular character does something that puts his people's ethics above Starfleet ethics).
Bear in mind Worf and the Klingons actually weren't my favourites on TNG, just secondary interests, but still, I loved these eps.
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Date: 2013-04-26 05:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-04-26 06:28 pm (UTC)My last selective TNG rewatch, for which I posted reviews, happened after the ST reboot movie had been released and BSG ended. (I had done a complete DS9 rewatch when the dvds came out, and then some selective ones for ficathons. ) Mysteriously, the film invoked not TOS but TNG nostalgia, and so did laterday BSG.
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Date: 2013-04-27 01:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-04-28 02:59 pm (UTC)1. Love her.
2. Her no-nonsense practicality that underlies her sparring with Londo.
3. We only have an episode with her and every moment is golden, but:
L: They're merely expressing their feelings for me.
T: I can do that. *slap*
4. As with her husband: her wit. Timov is verbally quick like lightning, and trust me, having the time to come up with clever replies in fanfic is not the same.
5. No.
6. Loved her from "the sucess of our marriage depends on our lack of communication" onwards!
7. Londo/Timov would be my choice even if canon had given us alternatives, I suppose, but I also like to think in a happier AU Timov would have formed her own relationship with G'Kar and thus Londo/Timov/G'Kar would have worked out and been glorious fun.
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Date: 2013-04-28 07:58 pm (UTC)Part of me will always regret canon depriving us of any chance at ever getting this (even though the other part of me, of course, finds the ending we did get perfect in all its heartbreaking glory). Thank you for the answers!
Incidentally, you saw that I posted a new G'Kar chapter some time ago? The G'Kar chapter, in fact, where G'Kar ends up in the Centauri Royal Palace and much, erm, interaction happens. It was posted just when you were on your trip to Venice (the pictures of which I very much enjoyed!) and I would hate to see you miss it. :)