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Fahrenheit 9/11 started in Germany last Thursday, and so yesterday I finally saw it, together with the Aged Parents. As there have been already hundreds of reviews, both pro and con, I’m going to concentrate on something which I don’t think has been pointed out yet so much.

Believe it or not, this movie actually awakens sympathy for Americans abroad. See, chances are that most people watching it in Europe are already convinced the Iraq War never was about weapons of mass destruction or liberating the Iraqi people, and they never thought of Bush as anything but a none-too bright walking, talking assembly of the worst assembly of anti-American clichés you could find. Also, the Bush dynasty being in bed with the Saudis isn’t news, either (nor unique to the Bush clan, or Republicans, or indeed Americans).

However, what people here aren’t widely aware of anymore are ordinary American people and the terrible circumstances they can be in. You get the high tech bombings of Baghdad in the news, you get the “embedded” stuff of patriotic pronouncements by soldiers, you get the ghastly Abu Ghraib pictures. What you don’t get is what Moore shows in his film – areas of unemployment looking every bit as poor and run down as the pre-war Baghdad footage he used, with the army being the only way out, soldiers in hospitals with missing limbs and twitchy faces who will never recover again, and, most poignantly, the families of dead soldiers. It has already been said but it bears repeating – the scenes with Lila Lipscomb, patriotic mother of a military family who never lets the flag she puts out touch the earth because it would be disrespectful, going from supporting the war to crying for her dead son and the futility of it all, are easily the most powerful and devastating of the movie. (More about her here.) They also form a kind of reply to an earlier scene where we see an Iraqi woman after a bombing crying with equal rage and despair, asking “why?” and calling on Allah. After the film was over, I listened to the people talking. One woman said “those poor people”, and she wasn’t referring only to the Iraquis. She meant the Americans as well. A lot of viewers remarked on the pity and sympathy they felt for the American people now, and how this was the other face of the US, as opposed to the one Bush and Rumsfeld showed.

Scattered additional thoughts:
- this is easily the most restrained of Moore’s movies, but it still could have used some snipping; the stunt with the Congressmen being asked to enlist their kids was superfluos, especially since the point about rich and poor was already made
- otoh, not using the familiar 9/11 footage of the planes crashing into the towers but instead going for audio only, with a black screen, and then footage of the stunned and grieving people in the streets was inspired and helped to counter any sensation of overexposure; it felt as horrible as when it happened.

Date: 2004-08-03 01:42 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
what people here aren’t widely aware of anymore are ordinary American people

You realise that if you wrote this about any Third World country, you'd be called a racist in five seconds flat?

Date: 2004-08-03 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
No, why? (Aside from the public perception of Third World countries being rather the reverse - if you think of India, you don't think of the BJP higher-ups, you think of the poor, and if you think of African country X, you don't think of dictator Y but of dozens of photos of starving children.)

Incidentally, I was not talking of myself. Visiting the US on a regular basis and having friends in some of the poorer regions forms a quite different image than what is transported via the media (on both sides of the Atlantic). But you notice in conversation over here that many people tend to go for the media image.

Date: 2004-08-03 05:08 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
It's no better when you only think of starving Indians and forget the journalists, the playwrights, the political activists, the filmmakers, the computer wizards, etc... It's cliché replacing the complexities of reality, and used to buttress unthinking prejudice. I'm well-aware that European anti-American prejudice (I'm French) has reached fantastic, in every meaning of the word, proportions. I think we should fight this for many reasons, one of the most obvious being that we Europeans have a lot more values in common with Americans than with the nasty little dictatorships which spawn the current terrorist attacks.

Date: 2004-08-03 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merkuria-lyn.livejournal.com
Agree completely with you - but is pointing out that often people are not widely aware of the different society groups and tend to focus on one element (be it politicians, filmmakers or any other), neglecting what you rightly call the 'complexities of reality', not rather the opposite of racism? A pointing out of a prejudice that should be fought? I saw selenak's comment as her calling attention to the wrongness of that existing prejudice and the narrow-minded view that most countries tend to have of one another!

Date: 2004-08-04 02:58 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
Fair point, but it's the needto see that - surprise! Americans are human beings! Some of them are working-class! They have - gasp - mothers! which absolutely gets my goat.

Plus, being that ignorant (and again I'm talking about the general European public) means that one cliché is replaced by another. Moore's view of America is equally simplist & miserabilist; it's that things can never change & the poor will always be downtrodden which is a very 19th-century Marxist view. In fact the essential thing about America that Europeans never understand is how fantastically mobile and fluid the society is.

Date: 2004-08-03 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
We seem to make something of the same point. Precisely because this is so anything which shatters such prejudices and shows another side which people (on both sides) who tend to think in black and white are either unaware of or ignore is a step in the right direction, no?

Date: 2004-08-04 02:59 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
See above. They're two one-dimensional views. Sure, two views are better than one; but neither takes into account the dynamics and complexities of US society. And Moore's style encourages people to keep thinking in clichés.

Date: 2004-08-03 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merkuria-lyn.livejournal.com
Really? Why? I can't say that I see what is racist about that statement...

::is puzzled::

Date: 2004-08-03 05:09 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
See my answer to [livejournal.com profile] selenak above.

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