Trailer Trailer Trailer!
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hobsonphile, check it out, too. It won't really spoil you, and the Pilot picture that greets one at the site is to die for. Also, lots of Stark which should make astrogirl2 happy.
Chiana with cat eyes is obviously the solution to her blindness. Grayza being pregnant and exchanging a significant look with John made me squee at the evilness of Kemper and Co. Now boys, don't cop out a la Voyager with Seska's kid in season 2.
As I said, lots of Stark visible in that trailer, and the most intriguing thing is him apparently sharing unity with John. In memory of Zhaan? To get rid of Harvey, ifneuralclone's fears are correct? For another reason altogether?
When first watching, I couldn't decide whether Scorpius tells Sikozu "John Crichton is alive" or "John Crichton is mine". Then I decided I obviously read too much fanfic.*g*
Sikozu's new look needs adjusting to, but I'll get used to it. Glad to see she and Scorpius are still together. I was somewhat annoyed at the number of fanfics that had them split up basically five minutes after Bad Timing.
hobsonphile, check it out, too. It won't really spoil you, and the Pilot picture that greets one at the site is to die for. Also, lots of Stark which should make astrogirl2 happy.Chiana with cat eyes is obviously the solution to her blindness. Grayza being pregnant and exchanging a significant look with John made me squee at the evilness of Kemper and Co. Now boys, don't cop out a la Voyager with Seska's kid in season 2.
As I said, lots of Stark visible in that trailer, and the most intriguing thing is him apparently sharing unity with John. In memory of Zhaan? To get rid of Harvey, if
neuralclone's fears are correct? For another reason altogether?When first watching, I couldn't decide whether Scorpius tells Sikozu "John Crichton is alive" or "John Crichton is mine". Then I decided I obviously read too much fanfic.*g*
Sikozu's new look needs adjusting to, but I'll get used to it. Glad to see she and Scorpius are still together. I was somewhat annoyed at the number of fanfics that had them split up basically five minutes after Bad Timing.
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Date: 2004-08-25 02:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-08-25 09:10 pm (UTC)Frell! Where's a Farscape icon when you need one?!
Date: 2004-08-25 02:24 pm (UTC)By the Hynerian gods, I am soooooo excited about this!! Thanks for that link. I haven't felt this purely fanboyishish in a long time!! It looks from this promo that a vast number of the elements of the series are going to be addressed in the mini, which I'm very excited about. I'm not even nervous about over-hyping myself for it, because after that crushing cancellation that felt like a blow to the mivonks two years ago, any new Farscape is a miracle, and I will appreciate whatever we get. With that said, I'm not worried, because this looks frelling amazing! And to think this show was replaced with dren like Scare Tactics! *shudders*
Stark/Crichton unity...Very cool. Would it be too much to ask for Zhaan cameo in a vision? Also, the main thing in their storyline I'd like an answer to, and I'm not sure if we'll get it, is what the real deal was behind that virtual reality game from John Quixote.
Chiana's cat eyes...awesome!
Sikozou/Scorpius. I absolutely love it, and I agree that it wouldn't make sense for them to split up right after Bad Timing because their relationship was slowly evolving throughout the fourth season, and we never got to see enough of a pay-off once they did become a couple, because the story was cut short. This story needs to be told. I'm very curious about Scorpius' motives as well as hers. Will he be back to being a Big Bad...or will we see the continuation of Morally!Ambiguous!Scorpy from S4? And what do either of these options mean for Sikozou's rating on the good, evil, or somewhere-in-between scale?
Grayza being pregnant and exchanging a significant look with John made me squee at the evilness of Kemper and Co.
Oh, I know! Wouldn't that be too, too delicious? I'm hoping that that look to John wasn't just an editing trick done in the promo to make it look like she was indicating it was his baby.
Just seeing John, Aeryn, D'Argo, Rygel, Chiana, and Co. back in action is making me feel so, so happy. That picture of Pilot and John at the site brought back so much ooey, gooey nostalgia. I always loved how hands-on the performers were with Pilot, placing their heads against his, rubbing their hands over his claws, etc.
I've been rewatching all of Farscape since the beginning, and am now at the beginning of my favorite season, the third. It is making me so stoked for October!
Re: Frell! Where's a Farscape icon when you need one?!
Date: 2004-08-25 09:26 pm (UTC)A Zhaan cameo would be lovely (but probably they'd keep that as a surprise).
Personally, I'm voting for moral ambiguity from both Sikozu and Scorpius, which doesn't mean Scorpius couldn't be the occasional antagonist (plus given that this miniseries will have the war he has predicted all along, you can bet he'll have quite the incentive to make John finally deliver the wormholes).
I'm hoping the same thing, re: Grayza. You know, Gidgi Edgley joked at a convention that season 4 could have ended with not just Aeryn but Grayza and Chiana (via young John from Kansas) pregnant by Crichton as well, and apparently, DK & Co. took part of her suggestion!
Re: Frell! Where's a Farscape icon when you need one?!
Date: 2004-08-25 09:38 pm (UTC)*brain explodes about the time paradox possibility*
That would have been quite interesting, wouldn't it, for Crichton to have impregnated a girl when he was a teenager, who ended up giving birth when he was in his forties?!? Speaking of which, the revelation that Chiana was Karen Shaw was IMO one of the best moments of internal continuity the show ever had. It was such an "ohhhh!!!" moment.
Re: Frell! Where's a Farscape icon when you need one?!
Date: 2004-08-25 10:39 pm (UTC)Also, just imagine the way this would have messed with D'Argo's and Aeryn's mind.
Yes, Karen Shaw = Chiana was a wonderful, wonderful moment. And btw, you can't tell me that Our John didn't know what Chiana was up to with Young John. Methinks he let it happen so that he'd have some guilt-free memories of sex with Chiana.*g*
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Re: Pregnancies...
Date: 2004-09-03 09:06 am (UTC)And...
Date: 2004-08-25 09:41 pm (UTC)Re: And...
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Date: 2004-08-25 03:38 pm (UTC)Which presumably is my true sentiment toward the man after all these years.
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Date: 2004-08-25 09:13 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2004-08-25 03:51 pm (UTC)Yep, no coherent commentary. Just:
Squeeeeeeee!
I must finish season four by October so it will make sense... *g*
See, I knew you'd like it
Date: 2004-08-25 09:18 pm (UTC)Re: See, I knew you'd like it
Date: 2004-08-26 04:32 am (UTC)Well, yes. *g*
(On the Farscape 'ship front, though, I must admit I've been drooling over
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Date: 2004-08-25 04:11 pm (UTC)Beautiful pic of Pilot. I want to hug him too.
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Date: 2004-08-25 09:17 pm (UTC)Couldn't you get someone to burn season 4 on CD for you? I know that
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Date: 2004-08-25 09:39 pm (UTC)He is! Literally too! :-D
The season 4 set is due out in the US in October; I'll order it then. At which point I suppose Sky will see fit to show it; that happened with season 3.
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Date: 2004-08-25 06:21 pm (UTC)I know there's been a lot of speculation about the two Johns "merging" somehow... I'm wondering if maybe Stark was sharing TJohn's memories? But, no... I will... not... speculate. Aaargh! :)
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Date: 2004-08-25 06:24 pm (UTC)Oh, that idea sounds amazing! Aaargh...The wait for the miniseries has now offically become completely intolerable!
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Date: 2004-08-25 09:20 pm (UTC)(Plus, like Rob, I hope for some resolution on the virtual reality game.*g*)
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Date: 2004-08-25 09:25 pm (UTC)I sort of am hoping for that and, at the same time, am sort of hoping they don't address it. Because, as with many other things involving Stark, I've worked out my own explanations which I really like and want to keep on believing, darn it. I'm rather afraid the mini is going to force me to re-write large chunks of my personal fanon, and I fear it will be traumatic. :)
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Date: 2004-08-25 09:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-08-25 09:47 pm (UTC)The game itself, I figure, was rather crudely put together. The game designer had taken a huge chunk of stuff from Stark's mind and used what he figured was relevant, without bothering to delete the extraneous stuff. So there was a lot of garbage in the game's memory, including a lot of weird pop culture stuff from TJohn, and some very distorted pieces of Stark's psyche, including a small subconscious resentment of John for Zhaan's death, greatly exaggerated and brought to the fore. (I don't think the real Stark actually felt that way. He certainly never acted like it. But it'd be hard to blame him if a tiny part of him did hold John responsible.)
Um... I could go on. You really shouldn't get me started. :)
Solid theory...
Date: 2004-08-25 10:16 pm (UTC)I don't think the real Stark actually felt that way. He certainly never acted like it. But it'd be hard to blame him if a tiny part of him did hold John responsible.)
Interestingly, I just watched both parts of Self-Inflicted Wounds tonight and had forgotten how John's obsession with wormholes had indirectly lead to Zhaan's death (not to mention the fact that she became sick by resurrecting John's love). Stark didn't seem to feel that John was to blame, particularly in how he does not act sad, which surprises Aeryn, until he tells her basically that Zhaan wanted them to be happy and to live in peace and that to mourn would be against her wishes. I could, though, see him subconsciously blaming him. If he is aware of it, I would say it's only the tiniest little thought nagging in the back of his head that he most often suppresses.
Re: Solid theory...
Date: 2004-08-25 10:26 pm (UTC)Yeah, there's a lot of scope for blaming John there. He can't really be blamed for letting himself be taken over by Harvey, but given that his finger pulled the trigger (or, um, landing-gear release :)), which caused Aeryn's death and led to the whole chain of events that followed, it's difficult not to feel like it was somehow his responsibility, and I think John actually feels irrationally guilty about it, himself. Then, yeah, if he hadn't stopped to look at the wormhole, they would have made it to Zhaan's planet. Again, there's no way he could have known, but if you're looking for someone to blame, he's a hell of a target. And I've always felt that "I love you. More importantly, John loves you" as Zhaan's reason for sacrificing herself for Aeryn is almost like a slap in the face to Stark, even though I know she didn't mean it that way. So, yeah, it'd be completely understandable if Stark felt some resentment. But you really don't see any indication of that in his behavior at all, except from the freaky videogame version. I always got the impression that he genuinely likes and respects John, actually.
(I have other thoughts about his feelings concerning Zhaan's desire that they be happy for her, which I think he tried to do and found incredibly difficult, but that's another issue entirely.)
Re: Solid theory...
Date: 2004-08-25 10:49 pm (UTC)In the case of Zhaan, I think he feels responsible too - which is why he accepts D'Argo's accusation later - and since both TJohn and MJohn would feel this way, this could have been filtered into the game as well, together with what was going on in Stark's subconscious.
Re: Solid theory...
Date: 2004-08-25 11:17 pm (UTC)in some ways a mother figure (with some erotic overtones - he's not completely unaware of her as a woman)
True...I'm thinking mostly now of Thank God It's Friday...Again, when they had to share a bed in D'Argo's apartment, and John woke up to find Zhaan's hand on his crotch, and the times they shared unity. (Speaking of unity, I always loved how Zhaan also drew strength from John, as well, and in particular during Dream a Little Dream, seemed to miss him the most out of all of the three who were missing.) Not to mention of course the dominatrix dream in Won't Get Fooled Again.
I definitely got the feeling at the end of Wait for the Wheel that John blamed himself, in the scene where he is watching The Three Stooges with Harvey (which was in the aliens' transmissions from the different worlds they'd discovered via the wormhole, and so represented at the time what he thinks he gave up Zhaan's life for: the slim chance of returning to Earth), and smashes his beer bottle on the ground in pain and sorrow.
Totally unrelated, but I have to mention it: one major thing I'd forgotten in that episode, which I loved was John's reaction that another evil alien race wanted to chase them around the galaxy! And how that lead him to put an end to that threat right there and then. It felt like a very "meta" moment.
Re: Solid theory...
Date: 2004-08-26 12:28 am (UTC)Oh yes. I'm an angst addict, but at that point I thought "stop it, the poor man can't take anymore"! And btw, Einstein was wise not to show up in the shape of John's mother, because after THAT experience, John would have called it quits with the Ancients at once if they had pulled something like this.
Re: Solid theory...
Date: 2004-08-26 03:07 am (UTC)Re: Solid theory...
Date: 2004-08-27 12:40 am (UTC)Re: Solid theory...
Date: 2004-08-28 07:52 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-08-25 10:44 pm (UTC)Anyway - makes sense to me. More about John & Zhaan's death & feelings of responsibility in reply to Rob below.
My major dissatisfaction...
Date: 2004-08-25 09:40 pm (UTC)Re: My major dissatisfaction...
Date: 2004-08-25 09:53 pm (UTC)Re: My major dissatisfaction...
Date: 2004-08-25 10:12 pm (UTC)Re: My major dissatisfaction...
Date: 2004-08-25 10:32 pm (UTC)Re: My major dissatisfaction...
Date: 2004-08-25 10:50 pm (UTC)Re: My major dissatisfaction...
Date: 2004-08-25 11:20 pm (UTC)Re: My major dissatisfaction...
Date: 2004-08-25 11:21 pm (UTC)Re: My major dissatisfaction...
Date: 2004-08-26 12:31 am (UTC)1) The John/Scorpius/Harvey interaction. Just brilliant.
2) Sikozu kissing Scorpius. For all his experience (with Natira, for example), you can tell this is the first time someone touched Scorpius in a tender (not just sexual) fashion. Actually, given his background, this is probably the first time someone touched him in a kind manner, full stop.
3) John reflecting on his career as a killer of hundreds in the tag scene. I did want him to realize this.
Re: My major dissatisfaction...
Date: 2004-09-03 09:04 am (UTC)Yes. I'd been waiting for that for over a year. When it finally happened I felt I could almost live with the show ending.