selenak: (Bruce and Tony by Corelite)
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Tomorrow, in a year (8124 words) by Selena
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Agent Carter (TV), Captain America (Movies), Iron Man (Movies)
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Peggy Carter & Howard Stark, Howard Stark & Everyone, Abraham Erskine & Howard Stark, Steve Rogers & Howard Stark
Characters: Howard Stark, Peggy Carter, Abraham Erskine, Werner Heisenberg, Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker, Konrad Zuse, Fritz Haber
Additional Tags: For Science!, Dubious Ethics, Ethics, Nuclear Weapons, Chemical Weapons, Computers, Morality, Historical

Inventions, the consequences they have and the choices you make: Three encounters Howard Stark has with German scientists he does and doesn't work with.

This was my [community profile] ssrconfidential story for this year. The reason why I assumed it was patently obvious who authored it was that, well, who else among this year’s participants would write about Howard having debates with a bunch of German scientists?

The prompt had asked for Howard Stark recruiting, via Operation Paperclip, the top German cybernetics expert in order to meddle in artificial life. This to me sounded like it was going for a tale with a Nazi robot on the rampage, which yours truly would not have been keen to write (there were other prompts by my recipient I’d have then gone for), but at the same time, the phrasing left me just wriggle room enough to come up with something more interesting and challenging to me, on the subject of Howard and German scientists. Given that the MCU has Howard Stark as a participant in the Manhattan project, and that I’m a fan of Michael Frayn’s play Copenhagen about Niels Bohr and Werner Heisenberg, I already knew there’d be a Howard & German nuclear physicists encounter in my story.

Canonically, Howard worked with Abraham Erskine who in the MCU hails from Augsburg (like Bertolt Brecht) and thus most definitely qualifies as a German scientist, so the first Erskine-Stark encounter was a given opener for the story. Now the MCU Wikipedia has them meeting in 1934 at a conference in Switzerland, which sounds a bit unlikely given the birth year the same entry provides for Howard, but Switzerland in 1934 was also where Fritz Haber died, which made it a must for me. Because if there is someone ideal to embody the two sides of science and to kick start the question as to what the responsibilities of a scientist are, it’s the inventor of fertilizers and weaponized chlorine gas. Also, given Erskine’s age it made sense to make him a colleague and friend of Fritz Haber’s whose WWI experience gave him the original idea for what became the supersoldier serum.
(BTW, having recently had Fritz Haber on my mind for this story made me go “so…does Haber not exist in the DCU?” when a certain character in the new Wonder Woman was introduced.)

But I still needed a computer genius which was what the prompt had asked for, after all. Did we even have those in that era, I wondered, researched a bit, and found out about Konrad Zuse, fascinating computer inventor with a sideline in painting, two of whose war time created computers even were in the city where I lived, Munich. Zuse’s memoirs were also available for reading and contributed such details as his fondness for Fritz Lang’s movie Metropolis, language difficulties and other personal details which made it into the story. I was tempted to call the Zuse section “Zuse and Stark”, after “Einstein and Eddington”, that, or: "Science Bros: The First Generation", but you might as well have called it Iron Man 0.1, because it’s also a riff on Tony’s origin story as well as a contrast – one of my betas, asked to guess the prompt for the story, thought it must have been “Why Howard Stark didn’t become Iron Man”, and while I hadn’t thought of it like that at first, yes, that’s also one of the themes. Father and son are very similar, but there are also differences, both in circumstance and reaction to certain situations.

Lastly: I apologize for giving Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker my “Hydra makes no sense” rant. But Hydra makes no sense.

Date: 16 Jun 2017 13:16 (UTC)
makamu: (the power of words by)
From: [personal profile] makamu
I am not big on the MCU in general, apart from Agent Carter and Jessica Jones , but I really enjoyed your fic. Precisely because it reminded me of Copenhagen , which is one of my favourite plays (I remember the feeling of having my mind blown when I first read it in a seminar on contemporary British drama at uni).

And I had the same feeling regarding your fic: by grounding it in actual history (modified for the needs of your characters), you made the MCU a richer place for your readers (well, me at least ;)). As for von Weizäcker and Hydra: 1) I think that if anyone *would* point out that Hydra doesn't make sense, it would be von Weizäcker (certainly not Heisenberg, not at this point in time) and 2) it is a truth universally acknowledged that Hydra makes no sense ;) Maybe this is a consequence of the difference between American conceptualisations of (this period in) German and European history and German takes on that and their subsequent (lack of) popularisation, I don't know, but what I know of Hydra makes me want to bang my head against a wall, and I am certainly no history purist (for all I am a history geek).

Date: 17 Jun 2017 12:02 (UTC)
makamu: (rebel withut a cause by setenthet)
From: [personal profile] makamu
Your enjoyment, it shows :) And I am one of the people who thinks proper research always pays off in historical fic. As for history purism: hey, I even enjoy The Tudors despite the mess it makes. Same with the Borgias - I believe I even got into the series because of your reviews (the less said about series 3, the better, though *sighs*). And given my current new fic-writing fandoms, I cannot be too picky about history ;) *points at icon*


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