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And thus, minus a New Year's Special to come, the season ends. I liked it, as I liked all but one of the episodes. There hasn't been one to slay me with its brilliance, but neither, excepting the Not!Amazon in space tale, has there been one where I felt disappointed, and I've grown very fond of the new Team TARDIS. So, overall: nice debut of the Chibnall-Whittaker era, and it will be a looooong year to wait for the next season.



Should have known that sending Tim Shaw back a few millennia would mean he'd make himself the god of something, I mean, I know how genre works, and yet, like the Doctor, I was caught by surprise. Also, hats off to Chibnall; the season finale proved one more time he and his fellow writers managed to provide good ensemble stories with memorable, individualized guest characters in each episode. Considering that one of my problems with Chibnall's RTD-era DW episodes - the one with Ten and Martha versus solar flares - was that I found that episode's ensemble absolutely undistinguishable and hard to tell from each other -, I am all the more impressed. This time around, we get the Captain (he seemed familiar, but I couldn't tell from where until I saw him refered to as Robert Baratheon in someone else's review), whom you could observe coming back from his shattered state bit by bit throughout the episode (which, btw, I thought was a better acting showcase than what the actor got to do as Robert in s1 from Game of Thrones together, but then Robert Baratheon wasn't exactly a layered character), and who made the stakes for people not our team more real than the glowy statis fields did, and the two Urks (spelling?). (And Tim Shaw, who still was standard evil alien, though more powered up this time around.)

But really, the emotional heart of episode and as it turns out, now that it's over, the entire season, was Graham and the Graham-Ryan relationship. Grief, what it does to people and how they move on (or not) brings out the best in Chibnall as a writer (see s1 of Broadchurch, see Adrift in s2 of Torchwood), so in retrospect, that, too, makes sense. (It's also not something you can continue without pressing the reset button, so I'm assuming that whatever the big emotional arc of s12 will be, it won't be around Graham and Ryan.) I might have rolled my eyes a bit at "if you kill him, you'll become him" because really, didn't we move on from that far too easy fallacy in storytelling, but otoh Ryan's "I love you" and Graham finally getting the fist bump felt earned through the entire season, and from a Doylist perspective, I'm actually okay with not killing the villain because all too often, either the Disney death by falling from a high cliff (so the hero doesn't have to do it) or the grimdark opposite (there is no option BUT kill kill kill) feel like the two default options these days, so DW trying to let its characters find a third option is fine by me.

The Doctor references two RTD episodes in her dialogue (turning Margaret the Slitheen into an egg and dragging the Earth through space), which reminded me of the Ninth Doctor and Margaret "takes one to know one" (killer trying to make themselves feel better by mercy) scene, which is the kind of sharpness re: the Doctor's characterisation this season avoids, though there's the occasional moment (like with James in The Witchfinders) that at least alludes to it. And you know, for a season, I'm fine with that, too; Twelve has been through hell in his last years, and thus it makes both Watsonian and Doylist sense for the Doctor to emphasize kindness at this point of her life. And not letting the Companions kill. Journey's End didn't just feature the TARDIS dragging the Earth through space, it also had Davros tell the Doctor that he turns his Companions into killers, and that's not touching on Donna's fate later. Yes, I rolled my eyes (see above) at the "don't become him", but is it entirely ic for the Doctor, given the backstory? Absolutely. (As is the admission to Ryan that she's making up rules as she goes along.) Also, this season has been generous to Doctor/TARDIS shippers (and who among us isn't? If there's one ship the fandom can agree on, it's surely this?): Thirteen's look of adoration as her "ghost monument" materializes being yet another case in point.

The bit with the Doctor and Yaz having to take their rage-blocking devices off for a while made me suspect that an early draft of this story might have been a two parter where this resulted in an entire subplot of these two going darkside for a while until their teammates bring them back, and then Chibnall was told he wouldn't get 12 episodes per season, only 10, and had to rewrite, which makes it a bit of a pointless red herring.

Let's see, what else: quarries! All the nostalgia. The Doctor replying to "does it have to be us?" that everyone else has ignored the distress call felt like a comment to present day politics, but maybe I'm reaching. The Captain being alive and well at the end, having rescued the other hostages: most welcome. I was afraid he was a goner, the token tragic death of the finale, but apparantly that was his crewmate in the opening.

Now I'm looking forward to the New Year's Special, and not at all to the entire Who-less year to follow.

Date: 2018-12-11 10:39 am (UTC)
chelseagirl: Alice -- Tenniel (Default)
From: [personal profile] chelseagirl
There used to be a Doctor/Tardis 'shipping community on LJ called DocTard, which was lighthearted -- and also bowed to the inevitable fact that there was only one constant in the Doctor's life. That was before Neil Gaiman's episode and "Sexy" and all, though so I suspect Doctor/Tardis may have taken forms we never imagined a decade ago . . .

Date: 2018-12-11 11:44 am (UTC)
chelseagirl: Alice -- Tenniel (Default)
From: [personal profile] chelseagirl
Fair enough! We have a small model Bessie somewhere though oddly enough it has a Four in it instead of Three.

I am a Bad Fan and really only watched Four back in the day, largely because our local NYC tv station had licensed a package of Sarah Jane and Leela episodes, and showed them again and again rather than getting new ones. Yes, I could catch up now, but there are only so many hours in the day . . .

Date: 2018-12-11 10:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] selenay
(As is the admission to Ryan that she's making up rules as she goes along.)

This made me so happy to hear. Every time the Doctor does her "no guns, no killing" thing, we get fans coming out and complaining about inconsistency. So now we have a canon admission that her rules are flexible! They're situational! She makes things up as she goes and takes the current situation into account! I was delighted :-D

I really, really loved that this was effectively an everyone lives episode. It's so rare! And it almost never happens in season finales. Someone has to die otherwise there's no impact, even though sometimes everyone living (or living in stasis :-D ) can be just as impactful and leave us with just as much emotional resolution, but a different flavour of emotional resolution.

I'm also excited for the New Year's Special but not looking forward to an entire Who-less year. I might need to do a year-long New Who total rewatch just to cope.

Date: 2018-12-11 04:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] davetheanalyzer
I thought I read Chibnail wanted a shorter season so each episode would have a longer runtime. Mind you, I’m not familiar enough with writing schedules to suspect if that aspect fed into this episode or not.

Graham’s arc with Tim Shaw did feel a bit cliché but I did like his dynamic with Ryan in standing down from vengeance. I kind of thought Ryan could point out one non-killing way to get vengeance is to take everything Tim Shaw valued away from him, via freeing all the trophy people. I do wish we saw more of Ryan’s grief over Grace through the series, even if it leads him to different conclusions than Graham’s initial desire for vengeance this episode.

Hopefully, they use this year-long gap to figure out how to better balance the focus for Team Tardis next series, especially with Yaz. I kind of thought they could just cycle through a certain hierarchy of focus each episode, with Yaz-Ryan-Doctor-Graham for one episode for example and Ryan-Doctor-Graham-Yaz for another. Still, even with her under-focus, it’s nice Yaz appears to get some love from the Yaz/Doctor shippers.

After seeing the dramatic trailer, I really look forward to the New Years’ Day special.

Date: 2018-12-11 06:01 pm (UTC)
corvidology: ([EMO] FANTASTIC)
From: [personal profile] corvidology
I have been endlessly delighted by this season.

Not just because little me wanted a female doctor so bad and my big brother said it would never happen (boo!)but because I've really enjoyed the return of more than one companion and enjoyed the family aspect of it so much.

Date: 2018-12-13 02:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] grimorie
Also, this season has been generous to Doctor/TARDIS shippers (and who among us isn't? If there's one ship the fandom can agree on, it's surely this?): Thirteen's look of adoration as her "ghost monument" materializes being yet another case in point.

It was a really beautiful moment and I love that it seems this season is very much a Doctor/TARDIS ship!

Twelve has been through hell in his last years, and thus it makes both Watsonian and Doylist sense for the Doctor to emphasize kindness at this point of her life. And not letting the Companions kill.

This makes sense! Although, I do feel myself becoming a bit impatient, I'm still also on the 'wait and see' train!

I rolled my eyes (see above) at the "don't become him", but is it entirely ic for the Doctor, given the backstory? Absolutely.

Yes, I thought the same too, in another character it would've been just another 'don't kill' creed, for the Doctor, they actually know what its like.


(As is the admission to Ryan that she's making up rules as she goes along.)

I loved it! Also, feels like a slippery slope there, but also feels like she's giving herself an out for future actions that might contradict her creed. *cough*Daleks*cough*. (not a spoiler, a speculation btw!)
Edited Date: 2018-12-13 02:03 am (UTC)

Date: 2018-12-13 11:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] watervole
The big problem with the Tardis appearing by itself is that they've just provided a get out of jail free card for any future points of dramatic tension.

Date: 2018-12-14 12:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] grimorie
I thought the Doctor mentioned that she was only able to accurately do that because she lashed together Stenza and Ux power? So it's not something the Doctor can do regularly?

Date: 2018-12-13 10:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] watervole
I loved Paltraki - really good acting. I realise that to me, it's his character from The Full Monty that I recognised.

Graham was great in this episode - I really liked the way he told the Doctor at the start what he intended. He respects her a lot, but he won't allow her to dictate to him. He won't lie to her, not even by omission, and that says a lot about him.

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