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In which Margo's storyline ends perfectly but alas no one else's does. (Okay, except Aleida's.)



And I'm not just saying that because I wanted Ed to get his comeuppance, though I definitely did want Ed to get his comeuppance. I wanted someone (preferably Kelly) confront him with his utter selfishness and hypocrisy. Instead, we actually get to hear him tell Danielle "my family is here" (on Mars) and that why he's doing it, that's why Mars is his home, not Earth. WTF? His family is on Mars for all of five minutes, he was already acting as he does when Kelly and Alex were back on Earth, and he'd have acted exactly the same way if they had remained there. Look, I can buy Ed believing this latest excuse for his actions, the same way I buy Walter White believing he's doing it all for his familyl, but Breaking Bad was careful to not just let Walther admit the lie of this not just to Skyler but to himself in the finale but have multiple characters point out it's a lie long before that.

(I don't have the same problem with Dev not getting his comeuppance and instead getting what he wants, because Dev is a comparatively young character, and there's plenty of time in future seasons. But Ed's life time is running out, and while I do not want him to get the heroic death he craves, chances are he will die sooner rather than later, so the comeuppance time is limited.)

But it's beyond Ed. Danielle's story is similarly problematically handled. Now I have no problem with Danielle written as less than perfect and making mistakes of her own, but while the finale did give her a moment to realise that the fact the situation had gotten so out of hand and there was no open warfare among the Happy Valley people wasn't just due to orders from Houston or the former strikers and Ed but also due to herself - paralleling this with Ed getting a lightbulb in this regard, too -, the weight of this was all on the actress, and it was a brief moment, with Danielle having had only a few scenes in the second half of the season anyway to sell us on her being increasingly mono-focused on achieving the mission. Now re: the fakeout of her dying with the reveal that no, she survived after all - on the one hand, I'm glad she didn't die the heavily signalled death, and does get the old age among her family she wanted to, on the other hand, the almost death thus comes across as a mere gimick, not an actual story, which is alas typical for the way her personal story is handled ever since mid season when she chewed Ed out. Even Ed immediately being concerned and horrified at the prospect of her dying and clutching her to his arms did not land the way it could have. I never doubted that Ed did not want Danielle dead and would have in fact at any point done anything to save her life if it was immediately threatened. That was never the problem with Ed.

Among the new characters, I thought Sam Massey was sympathetic throughout the season, and her getting the breathtaking action sequence in space this show excells at in the finale worked very well. The same can not be said for Miles. Who gets introduced as a typical in over his head guy going for get rich quick schemes and failing. Then he succesfully takes over Ilya's operation - yes, he had been making the rounds for Ilya a few months, but when did Miles come across as having the kind of mind that does organiation well? Then he actually resists torture (until it's pointed out that his wife is an accomplice of his smuggling). And then Ilya comes to his aid - WHY? Miles just did not make sense. Don't get me wrong, I don't need to like a character for said character to make sense for me. The Stevens brothers, Danny and Jimmy, weren't exactly likeable last season, but both were completely plausible given what we knew about their lives, both had moments where you could still sympathize, and both got their narrative receipt bills, so to speak.

Now on to the good stuff. MARGO. Though this reminds me, Irina, also a new character, also counts as part of the good stuff. She was chilling and efficient and well acted, and as it turns out, the mistake she made a few episodes back in her conversation with Margo when Margo asks to be put in charge of the Rozcosmos space programm and Irina thinks this is about the power (as it would be for her), when it's about Margo's passion for her work, is what ultimately gets her foiled and brought down. I don't think Irina had Sergei killed out of cruelty, or because she could. She did it because he was a possible way for Margo to escape, and she wanted to keep Margo as her tool, plus it was another intimidation ploy, just as she had Margo believe she'd be driven to her execution when before revealing herself and making a job offer. It simply did not occur to her that Margo would not respond by being cowed and continuing to work for Irina to the best of her abilities.

As you might have guessed, my favourite scene involving Margo - though all her scenes were good - was the one with Aleida in the observation lounge at NASA where she talked about Wernher von Braun for the very first time in several seasons. (I know why I requested both relationships in the latest ficathon I'm participating in.) The parallels and contrasts were perfectly drawn. Aleida is right, of course, when she says "You're not him", but Margo is also right when she replies, "no, but a part of me is". Aside - and that's a big aside - from SLAVE LABOUR WITH CONCENTRATION CAMP INMATES - , though, one big difference is what Margo does in this episode. Not the part where she decides to foil the Goldilocks capture in order to ensure the continuation of the Space Programm. (He'd have done that, too.) The part where she confesses to it, fully knowing it will mean the end of her immunity and the rest of her life in prison, away from the work that gives her life meaning. That she also manages to protect Aleida with this is the icing of the cake, but in terms of Margo's personal development, the important part is that she accepts the responsibility for her actions instead of running from them - what she couldn't do at the end of the last season, what WvB never could and did (in either timeline). And that she does so out of her own free will, instead of running yet again (be it to Russia to live in a golden cage with Irina, or to Brazil to start over again). This turns what he told her and what she tells Aleida - "progress always comes at a cost" - completely around in its meaning - it's no longer an excuse, because Margo doesn't let others pay the price, she pays it herself. We're full circle now with Margo the young engineer we meet in the show pilot, and if this is the last we see of her, I am content, because she truly had a great character arc throughout the show.

In conclusion: either remove Miles or completely change the character, show, he does not work, and for God's sake, give me an Ed comeuppance before he bites the dust. Sam can stay. And Kelly better discover life on Mars, that was an unresolved plot thread. And you better give Wrenn Schmidt all the awards.

Date: 2024-01-13 05:34 pm (UTC)
musesfool: Chrisjen Avasarala from the Expanse (i like getting shit done)
From: [personal profile] musesfool
I agree with you re: Margo and Ed's comeuppance, but I'm glad they didn't kill Dani off, even with the fakeout - I would have been really angry that yet again the women die (Karen, Margo, now Irina possibly - and while I don't approve of Irina's actions, I thought she was a fantastic character and am sad to see her go, whether to execution or the gulag) while Ed continues blithely on his way.

I admit, when that dumbass first brought out the gun, I thought he was going to shoot a hole in a pressurized environment and thus kill them all, having it hit Dani worked as the splash of cold water on Ed to at least get him to think about someone else for five minutes.

I also agree with you about Miles. They wanted him to be a bunch of different things to move the plot along that didn't really work as a coherent character.

The reveal that they not only brought Lee's wife but a bunch of other families to Mars was a surprise! I was not expecting that, even when Lee was like, "Mars is my home too." Which again, ties back to a lot of wtf about Miles and his ability to get that done.

And finally, Kuznetsov station! I keep thinking of The Expanse, and are these workers the seeds of the Belters and the OPA? Even though the timelines don't match?

Date: 2024-01-13 09:54 pm (UTC)
lizbee: A sketch of myself (Default)
From: [personal profile] lizbee
And finally, Kuznetsov station! I keep thinking of The Expanse, and are these workers the seeds of the Belters and the OPA? Even though the timelines don't match?

I see a lot of people saying the FAM timeline is laying the seeds for a Star Trek universe, but the "progress requires competition" central thesis means that doesn't work for me. It's definitely The Expanse, where intellectual curiosity is at war with capital.
Edited Date: 2024-01-13 09:55 pm (UTC)

Date: 2024-01-15 12:11 am (UTC)
musesfool: Bobbie Draper & Chrisjen Avasarala from the Expanse (when the floods roll back)
From: [personal profile] musesfool
Yeah, I'm not the Trek fan you are, but that doesn't seem right to me. The Expanse, otoh, seems to fit really well.

Date: 2024-01-14 06:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] msilverstar
It really was Margo's show and it worked beautifully. Even though she didn't know the Soviets murdered Sergei, just knowing he was dead changed the equation so much.

Ed, ugh, boring. Dev a bit too, he's learned nothing. Danielle being the one shot felt very melodramatic, and she went out on a low note, but at least she got to hold her grandchild.

Date: 2024-01-15 12:12 am (UTC)
musesfool: eucalyptus by stephen meyers (Default)
From: [personal profile] musesfool
if Danielle had died while Ed and Dev triumphed, it really would have been too much to bear.

Yes, this!

Date: 2024-01-14 06:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gelliaclodiana
I feel like the on-Mars plotline suffered because it changed what it was all about in the second part of the season -- at the start it looked like it was about capitalist exploitation and inequality on Mars, and the effects that those things had on the station as a whole. I really enjoyed that focus in the early episodes. But then the asteroid plotline, which could have been used to further those storylines, became about "saving" the Mars colony. But this all seemed to happen without any character development -- so for example in the opening episodes Ed is definitely part of the problem, and it looks like he only gets involved with the strikers to mess with Danielle, but then by the end somehow he's all about the whole colony working together to save itself without it ever being clear that he has changed his opinions about the non-astronaut workers. And Dev shows up like a capitalist ex machina to solve the strike without ever really addressing the larger issues of inequality in the station -- and again his desire to "save"the colony is really under-motivated. it would have been useful to have a scene to remind the viewers of what he actually wants. And likewise Miles was a great character at his introduction, but then it was like the show lost focus on what made him tick as a character. I feel like the show set up one plot, with a set of characters, but then delivered a totally different plot with the same set of characters but expecting us to read them all very differently. As a viewer that did not work at all well for me.

The plotline with Margo and Aleida, however, was AMAZING. I loved all the callbacks to the first season, and to Margo's relationship with von Braun, and the essential difference between them: it has been important to Margo since that conversation with him that no one else pay the cost for the progress she wants. She takes that engineer's rigor and applies it to everything, and I love her for it.

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