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selenakBerlin was... interesting; maybe I'll manage an extra entry, if I find the time. The AP's birthday is tomorrow, and then I'm off to Düsseldorf. So, the next three, each from a different fandom this time:
Five Secrets Rupert Giles will take to the grave, for![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
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1) The little noises Joyce Summers makes when she’s having sex. He wasn’t in love with Joyce, though he liked her a lot and sometimes believes he might have come to love her, given time. But the memory stays with him, and he wouldn’t share it with anyone.
2) Ben’s death. (Never mind early drafts of a certain episode.) Talking about it would make part of the reason why he did it redundant.
3) The fact he used to have a crush on Quentin Travers for all of a month when they were young. It was almost a reverse to what happened with Ethan, because Giles was always more important to Ethan than Ethan ever was to him, and even during the times they were closest, he didn’t crush on Ethan, but shortly after returning to the fold, he did go through a period of feeling just this for Travers of all the people. In retrospect, he thinks what he fell for was the Watcher life style he had previously rejected. At least that makes the memory easier to bear. Travers never noticed anyway.
4) The fact he never regretted having agreed to letting Robin Wood kill Spike. This has nothing to do with the fact Spike turned out to be crucial in defeating the First Evil or with his feelings about Spike in general; actually, he liked Spike better than Buffy’s other beaus, especially Angel. But he thinks Spike and Angel are both ultimately no good for Buffy, and that Spike would never be able to do what Angel did, i.e. stay away from Buffy for good. Besides, he read Spike’s chronicles rather extensively, including Crowley’s report on Nikki Wood’s death. Privately, he thinks Robin had the right.
5) The fact he can’t remember what kissing Jenny Calendar felt like. Each time he tries, it’s actually Drusilla-as-Jenny he recalls, the taste of copper in her mouth giving it away. It’s something he’ll neither forgive Drusilla, or Angel, or Spike (who suggested the masquerade) for, but that’s something else he would never admit to anyone.
Five Things Charles Xavier Would Say to Scott Summers To Help Him Get His Head back in the Game [post-Astonishing 14, of course], forlikeadeuce
1) “Pity had nothing to do why I chose you as leader, Scott. Frankly, I needed you; none of the others believed in the team the way you did, or would be able to stay with the job even after getting disillusioned. Remember when you started to make decisions and I disagreed? I realized later you were right, and I was wrong, and told Warren as much. Since that time, you never stopped validating my choice.”
2) “I know that’s not what you want to hear, but Erik and I go through that on a regular basis.”
3) “Emma probably saved your life, because if she hadn’t taken you out, Cassandra would have, and Cassandra knows little would hurt me more than losing you.”
4) “It is our memories that make us what we were, Scott, but if you wish it, I could rearrange yours…”
5) “Scott, I always knew you were special. Only a very special man would get over his personal hell because of the terrible distress a friend is in. Logan’s mental agony is overwhelming. I keep hearing the word “moose”. Just mention it to him…”
Five things Vila (in the Scorpio days) misses about the Old Days, forthran
1) To quote Aretha Franklin, r-e-s-p-e-c-t, to know what it feels like. Not that he wasn’t the butt of jokes occasionally in the Old Days, too, but so was everyone else, and by and large, Blake might have manipulated him along with everyone else as Avon claims, but Vila never had the feeling Blake saw him as a joke.
2) Being allied with Avon against Blake; the comraderie they used to share, those “this last scheme of Blake’s is really crazy” and “why does it have to be us on that planet?” moments; with Avon as leader up to the crazy schemes, they’re gone entirely, and the younger crowd might think Avon is crazy, but they’d never think Vila is worth sharing that feeling with
3) Gan’s cooking. He really liked Gan, full stop, but Gan always used to shop during their stops on planets to get fresh supplies instead of those proteins Zen produced, and then he’d cook a meal. Gan was the only other Delta, and those Alphas and Beta’s can’t cook. Dayna probably can, but she might kill you for asking. Same with Soolin.
4) Jenna’s cleavage. What? Vila’s a guy. And Jenna used to display said cleavage quite often, in the vain hope Blake might notice.
5) Zen. Vila never trusted Orac even before Orac started to recommend Vila’s demise to Avon, and Zen really was something like a friend and a member of the original crew. Don’t get Vila started on Slave. Not least because sometimes, he’s afraid that Slave sounds like a parody of Vila himself.
Five Secrets Rupert Giles will take to the grave, for
honorh1) The little noises Joyce Summers makes when she’s having sex. He wasn’t in love with Joyce, though he liked her a lot and sometimes believes he might have come to love her, given time. But the memory stays with him, and he wouldn’t share it with anyone.
2) Ben’s death. (Never mind early drafts of a certain episode.) Talking about it would make part of the reason why he did it redundant.
3) The fact he used to have a crush on Quentin Travers for all of a month when they were young. It was almost a reverse to what happened with Ethan, because Giles was always more important to Ethan than Ethan ever was to him, and even during the times they were closest, he didn’t crush on Ethan, but shortly after returning to the fold, he did go through a period of feeling just this for Travers of all the people. In retrospect, he thinks what he fell for was the Watcher life style he had previously rejected. At least that makes the memory easier to bear. Travers never noticed anyway.
4) The fact he never regretted having agreed to letting Robin Wood kill Spike. This has nothing to do with the fact Spike turned out to be crucial in defeating the First Evil or with his feelings about Spike in general; actually, he liked Spike better than Buffy’s other beaus, especially Angel. But he thinks Spike and Angel are both ultimately no good for Buffy, and that Spike would never be able to do what Angel did, i.e. stay away from Buffy for good. Besides, he read Spike’s chronicles rather extensively, including Crowley’s report on Nikki Wood’s death. Privately, he thinks Robin had the right.
5) The fact he can’t remember what kissing Jenny Calendar felt like. Each time he tries, it’s actually Drusilla-as-Jenny he recalls, the taste of copper in her mouth giving it away. It’s something he’ll neither forgive Drusilla, or Angel, or Spike (who suggested the masquerade) for, but that’s something else he would never admit to anyone.
Five Things Charles Xavier Would Say to Scott Summers To Help Him Get His Head back in the Game [post-Astonishing 14, of course], for
likeadeuce1) “Pity had nothing to do why I chose you as leader, Scott. Frankly, I needed you; none of the others believed in the team the way you did, or would be able to stay with the job even after getting disillusioned. Remember when you started to make decisions and I disagreed? I realized later you were right, and I was wrong, and told Warren as much. Since that time, you never stopped validating my choice.”
2) “I know that’s not what you want to hear, but Erik and I go through that on a regular basis.”
3) “Emma probably saved your life, because if she hadn’t taken you out, Cassandra would have, and Cassandra knows little would hurt me more than losing you.”
4) “It is our memories that make us what we were, Scott, but if you wish it, I could rearrange yours…”
5) “Scott, I always knew you were special. Only a very special man would get over his personal hell because of the terrible distress a friend is in. Logan’s mental agony is overwhelming. I keep hearing the word “moose”. Just mention it to him…”
Five things Vila (in the Scorpio days) misses about the Old Days, for
thran1) To quote Aretha Franklin, r-e-s-p-e-c-t, to know what it feels like. Not that he wasn’t the butt of jokes occasionally in the Old Days, too, but so was everyone else, and by and large, Blake might have manipulated him along with everyone else as Avon claims, but Vila never had the feeling Blake saw him as a joke.
2) Being allied with Avon against Blake; the comraderie they used to share, those “this last scheme of Blake’s is really crazy” and “why does it have to be us on that planet?” moments; with Avon as leader up to the crazy schemes, they’re gone entirely, and the younger crowd might think Avon is crazy, but they’d never think Vila is worth sharing that feeling with
3) Gan’s cooking. He really liked Gan, full stop, but Gan always used to shop during their stops on planets to get fresh supplies instead of those proteins Zen produced, and then he’d cook a meal. Gan was the only other Delta, and those Alphas and Beta’s can’t cook. Dayna probably can, but she might kill you for asking. Same with Soolin.
4) Jenna’s cleavage. What? Vila’s a guy. And Jenna used to display said cleavage quite often, in the vain hope Blake might notice.
5) Zen. Vila never trusted Orac even before Orac started to recommend Vila’s demise to Avon, and Zen really was something like a friend and a member of the original crew. Don’t get Vila started on Slave. Not least because sometimes, he’s afraid that Slave sounds like a parody of Vila himself.
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Date: 2006-09-05 03:08 pm (UTC)Anyway, villain, heroine, or in the middle, I love Emma, and Joss' run of X-Men, and just managed to spread the love (http://wychwood.livejournal.com/192604.html#cutid5). *g*
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Date: 2006-09-05 03:11 pm (UTC)I mod a comm for Emma:
I think you may be right about Emma in Astonishing.
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Date: 2006-09-05 04:25 pm (UTC)2) “I know that’s not what you want to hear, but Erik and I go through that on a regular basis.”
Also, MOOSE! If I didn't love Joss for anything else in the world, I would love him for giving Scott that little bit of ammunition -- for the rest of forever, when he and Logan are having a little
lover'sfriends rivals' spat, Scott can just look at him and say, "Tell me about the moose again?"
Also, I love Giles & Travers.
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Date: 2006-09-05 05:33 pm (UTC)Incidentally, in my take on Charles & Scott post-14 (http://likeadeuce.livejournal.com/595513.html), Xavier gets to point out that he can EITHER be a Machiavellian bastard who will exploit anything and anyone to gain an advantage (which Scott seemed to think after the Danger thing), OR he can be the kind of guy who would feel sorry for a poor damaged kid and put him in charge of a team. But it's a little hard to both. Though in Emma's defense, such as it is, I think there's an argument to be made that Xavier really did exploit Scott's loneliness and eagerness -- and the part of Emma that loves Scott sees that and resents it on his behalf. Even while I don't exactly approve of her method of calling it to his attention. :)
Re: moose -- I was just talking it over with my brother (who hasn't read the series but wants to since I told him about what's happening to Logan). Brother: So, just, as a small Canadian child, he sees a large creature and thinks moose. Me: Yes. Brother: Bear would make a lot more sense. Me: Yes. Brother: 'Moose' is clearly better. I mean, 'bear' is funny but 'moose' is brilliant. Me: Yes. Yes it is.
In true schoolboy-Howlett style, I've been saying my prayers that
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Date: 2006-09-06 01:45 am (UTC)Respect for Vila went way, way down into the toilet once Blake left. I guess it started when Gan left, too, as did a lot of the warm fuzzies about that show - nobody else was willing to really care about people the way Gan was, and without his calming influence the bitterness and the posing and the violence on everyone's part had much more free rein. And allying with Avon against Blake? So utterly true. Some of my favorite moments, after all these years, are the Avon&Vila bonding in Gambit, especially when Blake and the girls come back and Avon gives Blake this wide-eyed innocent look. What? We played a little chess. :) Oh! And at the beginning of the episode, Avon manipulating Orac and all his pride into shrinking himself so they can go break the casino. L-O-V-E.
Gan totally cooked. He made everyone feel human. Aw, Gan. *sniffle*
Jenna's cleavage. *snicker*
Zen! Never before and never again has the demise of a AI character been so poignant. And it's Vila watching him die that really sells it for me. "He said 'I'". *snifflesniffle*
Thank you so much for writing about my first and perhaps still dearest character love. :)
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Date: 2006-09-06 06:26 am (UTC)Zen: exactly. No other AI demise ever touched me as deeply.
You're welcome - thanks for giving me the prompt!
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Date: 2006-09-06 01:54 am (UTC)I love the Charles Xavier five, though - he manipulates BECAUSE he cares, and genuinely thinks he knows best. Even though it's painful for Scott to challenge him, it seems to work out for the best when he does.
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Date: 2006-09-06 06:40 am (UTC)Anyway, for Giles, who as a Watcher would know how often Spike bragged about the killing-two-Slayers thing and how this made his reputation in the vampire world, what would come across is the callousness. And Spike's "I don't give a piss about your Mum" would have just confirmed it to him. (I tend to give Spike a little leeway there, because well, Robin Wood had just tried to kill him, but like I said, I also think he really kidded himself about Nikki and that his actual attitude at the time was "well, killing non-Slayers was terrible of me, but this one was an honorable duel, so no, I don't feel bad". Completely ignoring that he sought out Nikki to kill her, stalked her for weeks, and was killing for the kick of it (and for dinner, though not in the case of Nikki), whereas she was defending her life when she wasn't saving other people's, which makes the "oh, vampires and Slayers are doing the same thing" equation ridiculous.
he manipulates BECAUSE he cares, and genuinely thinks he knows best.
Yes, exactly. *loves Charles in all incarnations, manipulative caring s.o.b. that he is*
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Date: 2006-09-06 03:45 am (UTC)Also, Moose! (That will never, ever stop being funny.)
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Date: 2006-09-06 06:28 am (UTC)Moose: *adores Joss for giving us moose with the fire of a thousand suns*
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