Don't mess with my ship!

[selenak]

I'm not going to review Zagreus, for lack of time, but I will say it's probably telling about my priorities that the (Eighth) Doctor/Charley melodrama left me cold whereas the temporary Doctor/TARDIS break-up was most upsetting. They're the one true DW OTP, damn it. And even when they're both under the influence of these audio's plot device, an argument in which the TARDIS manifests herself looking like the Brigadier in order to have this type of dialogue with the Doctor is... well, I'll attempt to render it in short form:

TARDIS: So you had the choice of either letting your girlfriend companion die, who, by the way, is SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD, or kill yourself and me in order to repair the damage her existence caused to time, and you chose killing yourself and me. THAT HURT!

Doctor: You're jealous? (This, btw, is not a paraphrase, he actually says that.)

TARDIS: Did I mention how sick I am of the neverending parade of girls you bring home? I've been with you forever and always been faithful and you keep doing this to me, and then you condemm us both to a painful death for one of those stupid girls. That's it. I'm quitting! And taking a page from your evil ex-boyfriend's book by stringing you up naked in an imaginary dungeon and torturing you while I still have the "I'm a split personality now due to the plot device of the week and am venting my inner Hyde" excuse!

Doctor: ....Go ahead. I'll try to soothe your feelings by going utterly insane at the prospect of losing you entirely when the villain of the week melts you in front of my eyes after you tortured me. I wonder whether this is a behavorial pattern I'll keep up in future regenerations?


Thankfully, I listened to Medicinal Purposes next, which has its own set of problems but opens with the Doctor telling Evelyn why he loves his TARDIS best and more than all companions and always will. Zagreus is to me what Doomsday is to Rose/Doctor 'shippers, I tell you!

Comments

[skywaterblue.livejournal.com]

... It's Doctor/TARDIS hurt/comfort?! Heh. I admit to loving fic where, post-Time War, the Doctor has to lovingly restore the TARDIS to working order and therein rediscover the meaning of life.

[skywaterblue.livejournal.com]

Also, I'm still awake and can't tell if you've seen this yet or not:

Gaiman's latest on his dinner with Moffat (http://syndicated.livejournal.com/officialgaiman/453430.html).

I love how coy the answer is.

[selenak.livejournal.com]

Me too. BTW, guess what, someone now has written a West Wing/Iron Man crossover, in which Donna Moss meets Pepper Potts, and they commiserate about their bosses.

[ffutures.livejournal.com]

OOOK! Where!

[skywaterblue.livejournal.com]

I lost the link. It was pretty good, though.

[selenak.livejournal.com]

http://bennet-7.livejournal.com/73437.html

[elisi]

Doctor: You're jealous? (This, btw, is not a paraphrase, he actually says that.)
Really? That's *brilliant*! (I too am a Doctor/Tardis shipper. And Doctor/Master of course, but that is a completely different thing.)

[selenak.livejournal.com]

Of course, and I root for both, too. And yes, that was a literal quote. Mind you, the plot device is that the Doctor and the TARDIS, in that rescue-companion-and-universe action what was supposed to kill them both but which they survived for reasons too complicated to explain, have been infected with anti-time, which basically means this story plays out that beloved genre trope, the evil self of a normally good personality venting all those things the usual self can't say. (See also: Angel/Angelus.) And the TARDIS apparantly has centuries of issues about those girls pent up, yes. (She specifically uses the female form - does that mean the occasional male companion was less objectionable?) After all, she's been with the Doctor for as long as he's been travelling the universe, far longer than the little twits who join him for brief moments of his life, only to disappear as quickly. Even his Sixth form said as much, calling her his one constant, and to see the Doctor -- her Doctor -- fawn over the insipid bipeds angers her to no end. Especially when he will sacrifice her well-being to protect the weak and insufferable gits!


...who always leave their underwear on the floor and spend hours in the shower. (That is one of the complaints.) But the Doctor flipping out at the prospect of losing her altogether helps, and at the end she recovers faster from the split personality plot device than he does, and helps him recover, too.

[elisi]

Thank you so much for the recap - and I think I might love the TARDIS even more than I did before! :)

(She specifically uses the female form - does that mean the occasional male companion was less objectionable?)
I'm guessing The Doctor doesn't try to impress the men as much, nor is in danger of falling in love with them... and if The Tardis is female, she might like the male companions?

[selenak.livejournal.com]

Well, there was the indisputed love of Two/Jamie: Pictorial Evidence (http://community.livejournal.com/who_otp/169624.html). (Seriously, though, Jamie is easily one of the most loved - by the Doctor, that is - companions ever. Even brash Six still gets misty-eyed and emo at the sheer mention of him, and Ten takes his name - James McCrimmon - as a pseudonym in Tooth and Claw.) But I suppose the TARDIS could be a slasher...

[elisi]

Ten takes his name - James McCrimmon - as a pseudonym in Tooth and Claw.
I never knew that - fandom *failed* me!!!

Well, there was the indisputed love of Two/Jamie: Pictorial Evidence.
Thank you so much for that - I am so lacking in Old Skool knowledge - but then I can barely keep up with Nu Who...

But I suppose the TARDIS could be a slasher...
Now that's an interesting idea. :)

[astrogirl2.livejournal.com]

I have nothing to say, really, I just wanted to use this icon. :)

[selenak.livejournal.com]

THEIRLOVEISFOREVER!!!!!

(Also, in that audio, before the TARDIS loses it and has this rant, the Doctor, who since he's Eight has of course memory problems while also having the Jekyll and Hyde problem addresses her, while trying to pull himself together, as Bessie.

...

...no wonder she loses it!)

[thesecondevil]

I must admit that when I listened to Zagreus I started to get the giggles when TARDIS!Brig appeared and started complaining about the long showers and girlie underwear everywhere. Partly because not only did the conversation distinctly imply Tardis/Doctor but also through using an image of The Brig to communicate Doctor/Brig as well.

[selenak.livejournal.com]

Partly because not only did the conversation distinctly imply Tardis/Doctor but also through using an image of The Brig to communicate Doctor/Brig as well.

Oh, I think the TARDIS must have thought long and hard about whose image to use... *veg*

[chloris67.livejournal.com]

I love this! Jealous rants, torture, the Doctor going nuts at the thought of losing her. Doctor/Tardis OTP!

[selenak.livejournal.com]

The ship of all ships!

[wondygal.livejournal.com]

I love Zagreus. It's complete, wonderful crack with the Brigadier's voice in it. I ADORE the scene where Eight "dies" and meets Five, Six and Seven, and Six and Seven talk about their deaths ("A BANG on the HEAD, I ask you?"). I love Big Finish.

I'm having a silly day, I just giggled because Doctor/his ship is a ship. *silly* But yes, absolutely, Doctor/Tardis 4eva.

[selenak.livejournal.com]

Oh, Six complaining about his death had me in stitches, too. And Nicholas Courtney must have had a field day as the TARDIS wanting more love for herself and less for the girls from the Doctor.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_medley_/]

Nooo, they can't mess with Doctor/TARDIS! That's my OTP too.

(I'm assuming you've seen fan_eunice's vid to "Moons of Jupiter" with the section in the middle that is pure TARDIS love?)

[selenak.livejournal.com]

Oh, yes, I know it, and that's so true.

Also, don't worry. At the end, the TARDIS recovers first from the Jekyll/Hyde MacGuffin and helps the Doctor recover, and they are in harmony once more. But th PAIN EARLIER!

[http://users.livejournal.com/_medley_/]

GOOD that it works out. (As of course it would, but still.)

[elyssadc.livejournal.com]

the temporary Doctor/TARDIS break-up was most upsetting.

I cried. Hard. SO NOT EVEN KIDDING. I couldn't BELIEVE the TARDIS did that and then killed herself and it was all so horrible and gutwrenching and I am SUCH a big sap but it really was heartbreaking. And Courtney did such an amazing job of playing it, I really felt like it was the TARDIS saying all that and...ugh. I need the Doctor and the TARDIS to never ever break up again. EVER.

[selenak.livejournal.com]

I agree. This is supposed to be my steadfast, unthreatened ship on DW! No more breakups!