Battlestar Galactica 4.09 The Hub
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selenakIn which as I hoped the combination of The Roslin Wing, The Cylon Show and Life of Gaius produceds great results. Mostly. Also, Jane Espenson finally writes a BSG episode that is worthy of her BTVS episodes. (Her previous ones haven't been bad, just not up to the standard I was used from her back when she was writing for Joss.)
Come on, other people must have thought it, right? While Intervention is mostly remembered for the Spike/Buffybot shenanigans and the twist from comedy to drama when he went self-sacrificial on Dawn's behalf and had what is still one of my favourite scenes between those two with Real!Buffy at the end, there was the entire subplot with Buffy going to the desert for a spirit quest of sorts. Caused by her fear that being the Slayer, being a leader has made her more and more inhuman, has made her cut herself of from emotion, especially love. This led to a cryptic encounter with the First Slayer who told her she hadn't lost the ability to love but was full of it. "Love, give, forgive." And that death was her gift. Not answering Buffy's question whether that meant a gift she was going to give to others, or receive.
...you're seeing where I'm getting with this, right?
Except that I have to use one caveat: I'm not sure "just love" as an advice from a spirit guide and the result worked as well in the case of Laura Roslin for me as a viewer. Because the BSGverse is different from the Jossverse, because Laura is a 50 something adult woman, and because, well, I've known villains a plenty who were able to love someone else tenderly and completely and still be incredibly ruthless and horrible to other people. See also: Arvin Sloane, devoted husband to his wife Emily, being the main villain in the first two seasons of Alias simultanously. But you don't have to branch out to other shows. I'd say Caprica Six loved Gaius Baltar (in the full knowledge of his nature), but this didn't stop her from fulfilling her mission and aquiring the access codes for the Cylons in the miniseries. It took her quite a while to get to the point where she concluded that genocide was wrong. Ellen Tigh loved Saul Tigh, and vice versa. Passionately. This did not stop them from having an Edward Albee style marriage, and it was the reason why Ellen risked the lives of everyone on New Caprica. To save her husband. Love for one person does not automatically give you empathy for others, or compassion.
This being said, I think the episode actually goes for something more complicated than that. Roslin has transformed herself into a ruthless leader because she had to. Everyone went to extremes over the years on this show. Adama and Roslin went to two different ones. His tendency to put the personal above all, personal ties, personal loyalty, got maxed and just led to the conclusion we saw in the last episode. Roslin, otoh, has applied "the end justifies the means" more and more, and since the end was saving the rest of humanity, the allowable means became practically everything. They need balance. Also, while she might have restrained herself in getting close but not too close to Adama in the past, there was one emotion Roslin has been giving into completely for a while. It just wasn't love, it was hate. For Gaius Baltar. Baltar brought out the extremes in Roslin; see "Take away all your troubles" in s3, when she has him tortured, and the last episodes of that same season, when she wants him judged and executed, and it doesn't even occur to her he might not be guilty as charged because she's so absolutely certain he deserves to die.
Now, neither the torture session mid-season 3 nor the trial gave Roslin the other thing she wanted from Baltar, an admission of guilt. She gets it now. Because he's under morphine, because, as opposed to the s3 situation, he has finally found a way to absolve himself. (Baltar's earlier ways of dealing were: denial, then hoping to be a Cylon which would give him an out, then while accepting he's not a Cylon still clinging to the idea of himself as a victim of deceit.) Maybe even because some part of him wants her to know; remember that s3 dream where he imagines her forgiving him? She's the representative of humanity to him, I think, and the most merciless judge he knows. If she agrees with him that he's forgiven, then he truly is. Not that he'd risk it when not under drugs, but the morphine helps, and she has just helped him.
It's a great, great scene, masterfully played by both actors; Callis in this episode goes from the comedy earlier to this without a problem, and Mary McDonnell is of course beyond awesome, with the physical revulsion and the horror Roslin feels at finally hearing out loud what she thought was true but didn't with absolute certainty know, the hatred that causes her to rip off the bandage from Baltar again. And we get another blood drop imagery; I think the first time they used it was when Boomer was shot, but this time it's coupled with the twisted cruxificion imagery they're using for Baltar (he has the spear wound now, but on the wrong side). Baltar's reaction - just whispering "please don't do this" again and again instead of shouting or trying to persuade her otherwise - is another thing that makes this scene so very effective.
Then we getdivine intervention in the form of another jump and Head!Elosha. Who tells Roslin that it's not that Baltar did more good than bad, which he didn't, but that you can't judge humanity's survival on a case by case basis. The interesting thing is that Roslin, if her later conversation with Head!Elosha is anything to go by, interprets this as meaning that if she saves Gaius Baltar from the death she has just condemmed him to, she'll save humanity. "I thought I was earning humanity's right to survive!" she complains to Elosha when Gaius is saved but Deanna still won't tell her who the final five are or where Earth is, and gets told it doesn't work that way (though she gets Adama instead). No, it doesn't. When Frodo spares Gollum in "Lord of the Ring", it's not because he knows that some months later, when he himself is overwhelmed by the Ring, Gollum will bit off his finger and thus save Middle Earth. Nor does he do it because Gollum has done something to indicate he "deserves" forgiveness and his life. Gollum hasn't. He does it because of compassion. So, Roslin saving Baltar (and has anyone written the compare and contrast for Gollum and Gaius yet?): an attempt to bargain with whichever force Head!Elosha represents, with destiny, coupled with not wanting to become a murderer in the end? I'd say yes, but there is one detail which throws me a bit, it's that she calls him Gaius. The only other time she did that before was when she wanted to intimidate him in their latest cell scene. Here, it's my one indication she might actually have internalized that even Gaius Baltar, who cost so much of humanity their lives, does not deserve to die.
On a lighter level: the earlier squabbling between Roslin and Baltar about the Hybrid was Jane E. bringing on the comedy in a priceless fashion. Ditto for the Baltar-and-the-centurion scenes, though these are interpretable in so many ways - is he trying to sow dissension in the ranks? Is he just genuinenly spreading the word because he wondered about the centurions? Who knows. Best of all, though, was the face-off between D'anna and Roslin. Oh Lucy Lawless, you are still wonderful to behold on my tv screen. Three has never been a sympathetic model, but always an interesting one, and she brings on the snark as few can, first with Cavil ("until they see something shiny"), then with Helo and the Eight, and then with Roslin. Few characters can hold their own next to Laura R., but it looks like Three can. Including a little mindfrak just because. (With the audience as well as Roslin. Though I think that settles the "is Roslin a Cylon?" debate, because given the reverence D'Anna experienced when seeing the Final Five, I doubt she'd treat one of them this way.) Please don't die on us now you're mortal,Three. It's tough enough my tiny tiny hope Natalie downloaded and would get rescued before the Hub is destroyed was crushed, but at least there are more Sixes around.
Meanwhile, Helo really appears to be married to the entire production line (tm Roslin and Jane E.) For the first time, we get an Eight other than Athena and Boomer with more than one or two lines, and while Grace is not as skilled as Tricia in making each version of her model their own individual, I find this Eight interesting and hope we'll see more of her. I also think her scenes both reminded Helo of the essential otherness of the Cylons (downloadable, shareable memories) and of the fact they are like humans in many other ways. Down to the ability to make him feel shame about double crossing on Roslin's orders, and the eerie, eerie moment when he sees all the Eights in the pools which now will never activate and become.
Speaking of the destruction of the hub: in a way, a Cylon apocalypse on the same scale for them as the destruction of the colonies was for the humans, no? The music was appropriate.
In conclusion: a good episode, though I didn't get my wish of seeing Roslin hit Adama over the head with that book for being a selfish prat who deserts the fleet, but then, she doesn't know what happened in her absence yet.
Come on, other people must have thought it, right? While Intervention is mostly remembered for the Spike/Buffybot shenanigans and the twist from comedy to drama when he went self-sacrificial on Dawn's behalf and had what is still one of my favourite scenes between those two with Real!Buffy at the end, there was the entire subplot with Buffy going to the desert for a spirit quest of sorts. Caused by her fear that being the Slayer, being a leader has made her more and more inhuman, has made her cut herself of from emotion, especially love. This led to a cryptic encounter with the First Slayer who told her she hadn't lost the ability to love but was full of it. "Love, give, forgive." And that death was her gift. Not answering Buffy's question whether that meant a gift she was going to give to others, or receive.
...you're seeing where I'm getting with this, right?
Except that I have to use one caveat: I'm not sure "just love" as an advice from a spirit guide and the result worked as well in the case of Laura Roslin for me as a viewer. Because the BSGverse is different from the Jossverse, because Laura is a 50 something adult woman, and because, well, I've known villains a plenty who were able to love someone else tenderly and completely and still be incredibly ruthless and horrible to other people. See also: Arvin Sloane, devoted husband to his wife Emily, being the main villain in the first two seasons of Alias simultanously. But you don't have to branch out to other shows. I'd say Caprica Six loved Gaius Baltar (in the full knowledge of his nature), but this didn't stop her from fulfilling her mission and aquiring the access codes for the Cylons in the miniseries. It took her quite a while to get to the point where she concluded that genocide was wrong. Ellen Tigh loved Saul Tigh, and vice versa. Passionately. This did not stop them from having an Edward Albee style marriage, and it was the reason why Ellen risked the lives of everyone on New Caprica. To save her husband. Love for one person does not automatically give you empathy for others, or compassion.
This being said, I think the episode actually goes for something more complicated than that. Roslin has transformed herself into a ruthless leader because she had to. Everyone went to extremes over the years on this show. Adama and Roslin went to two different ones. His tendency to put the personal above all, personal ties, personal loyalty, got maxed and just led to the conclusion we saw in the last episode. Roslin, otoh, has applied "the end justifies the means" more and more, and since the end was saving the rest of humanity, the allowable means became practically everything. They need balance. Also, while she might have restrained herself in getting close but not too close to Adama in the past, there was one emotion Roslin has been giving into completely for a while. It just wasn't love, it was hate. For Gaius Baltar. Baltar brought out the extremes in Roslin; see "Take away all your troubles" in s3, when she has him tortured, and the last episodes of that same season, when she wants him judged and executed, and it doesn't even occur to her he might not be guilty as charged because she's so absolutely certain he deserves to die.
Now, neither the torture session mid-season 3 nor the trial gave Roslin the other thing she wanted from Baltar, an admission of guilt. She gets it now. Because he's under morphine, because, as opposed to the s3 situation, he has finally found a way to absolve himself. (Baltar's earlier ways of dealing were: denial, then hoping to be a Cylon which would give him an out, then while accepting he's not a Cylon still clinging to the idea of himself as a victim of deceit.) Maybe even because some part of him wants her to know; remember that s3 dream where he imagines her forgiving him? She's the representative of humanity to him, I think, and the most merciless judge he knows. If she agrees with him that he's forgiven, then he truly is. Not that he'd risk it when not under drugs, but the morphine helps, and she has just helped him.
It's a great, great scene, masterfully played by both actors; Callis in this episode goes from the comedy earlier to this without a problem, and Mary McDonnell is of course beyond awesome, with the physical revulsion and the horror Roslin feels at finally hearing out loud what she thought was true but didn't with absolute certainty know, the hatred that causes her to rip off the bandage from Baltar again. And we get another blood drop imagery; I think the first time they used it was when Boomer was shot, but this time it's coupled with the twisted cruxificion imagery they're using for Baltar (he has the spear wound now, but on the wrong side). Baltar's reaction - just whispering "please don't do this" again and again instead of shouting or trying to persuade her otherwise - is another thing that makes this scene so very effective.
Then we get
On a lighter level: the earlier squabbling between Roslin and Baltar about the Hybrid was Jane E. bringing on the comedy in a priceless fashion. Ditto for the Baltar-and-the-centurion scenes, though these are interpretable in so many ways - is he trying to sow dissension in the ranks? Is he just genuinenly spreading the word because he wondered about the centurions? Who knows. Best of all, though, was the face-off between D'anna and Roslin. Oh Lucy Lawless, you are still wonderful to behold on my tv screen. Three has never been a sympathetic model, but always an interesting one, and she brings on the snark as few can, first with Cavil ("until they see something shiny"), then with Helo and the Eight, and then with Roslin. Few characters can hold their own next to Laura R., but it looks like Three can. Including a little mindfrak just because. (With the audience as well as Roslin. Though I think that settles the "is Roslin a Cylon?" debate, because given the reverence D'Anna experienced when seeing the Final Five, I doubt she'd treat one of them this way.) Please don't die on us now you're mortal,Three. It's tough enough my tiny tiny hope Natalie downloaded and would get rescued before the Hub is destroyed was crushed, but at least there are more Sixes around.
Meanwhile, Helo really appears to be married to the entire production line (tm Roslin and Jane E.) For the first time, we get an Eight other than Athena and Boomer with more than one or two lines, and while Grace is not as skilled as Tricia in making each version of her model their own individual, I find this Eight interesting and hope we'll see more of her. I also think her scenes both reminded Helo of the essential otherness of the Cylons (downloadable, shareable memories) and of the fact they are like humans in many other ways. Down to the ability to make him feel shame about double crossing on Roslin's orders, and the eerie, eerie moment when he sees all the Eights in the pools which now will never activate and become.
Speaking of the destruction of the hub: in a way, a Cylon apocalypse on the same scale for them as the destruction of the colonies was for the humans, no? The music was appropriate.
In conclusion: a good episode, though I didn't get my wish of seeing Roslin hit Adama over the head with that book for being a selfish prat who deserts the fleet, but then, she doesn't know what happened in her absence yet.
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Date: 2008-06-09 09:48 am (UTC)This is an excellent point! I admit, I'm not Baltar's biggest fan (this was the first episode in a very long time where I liked him), so I don't always get what's going on inside that crazy genius brain. This episode made me think that Baltar's repeated survival on the show is meant to be a metaphor for the survival of humanity itself - in the sense that Baltar is the most 'human', most easily susceptible to certain human flaws (lust, greed, fickleness, so on), and probably does not deserve to live... Except that he does, and so do everyone else in the Fleet, who are no less 'guilty' than Baltar is in many different way. I hadn't thought of Baltar's motivations, though, and it makes perfect sense, Roslin being his 'representative of humanity'. It's ironic, and beautiful, the way this episode brings the two of them together.
though I didn't get my wish of seeing Roslin hit Adama over the head with that book for being a selfish prat who deserts the fleet, but then, she doesn't know what happened in her absence yet
I hope we see it too. And I say this as someone who is quite fond of The Adama Show, in addition to The Roslin Wing and Cylons, and some Kara Thrace and Her Special Destiny (tm).
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Date: 2008-06-09 11:44 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-06-09 09:58 am (UTC)This one I liked again. I'm not pleased with the back-and-forth in quality this season. Just decide, show, suck or be good, but not both! /useless rambling
Laura and love: I wish they had made this more clearly about love for people rather than personal love, because that to me seemed to be the crux of it. Head!Elosha (and I hope she stays around, I actually missed her!) did make clear that it was about Laura's distance to her people, and yeah, that's probably exemplified by her not letting Adama close, but as you say, being able to love one or a few persons and valuing personal loyalty doesn't keep you from being by all definitions a very bad person. Besides, it's so sappy.
Yes to the whole paragraph on Frodo and compassion (when I watch that scene between him and Gandalf, I always think of that Giles sentence, about forgiving people not because they deserve it, but because they need it? I might be paraphrasing wrong) - although I have to admit that the comparison between Gaius and Gollum cracks me up. What would be Gaius' Precious, then? Release from guilt?
And to me, Roslin saved Baltar both because she didn't want to be a murderer and because she felt he didn't deserve to die. She was so worked up in that moment, it couldn't just have been about herself or about bargaining with Elosha!God. That was a very intense scene, and I swear, I was convinced she would let him die.
I was so glad she didn't. I like that little cockroach, and I really think it would have been a point of no return for her.Ditto for the Baltar-and-the-centurion scenes, though these are interpretable in so many ways - is he trying to sow dissension in the ranks? Is he just genuinenly spreading the word because he wondered about the centurions? Who knows.
I thought it was both, in a way. He is the born muckraker on the one hand, but on the other, I think he genuinely gets into that preaching thing, just in his very own Baltar way, which always has a ring of insincerity to it. It's like he believes in what he does, but he himself simply isn't genuine enough as a person to bring that across.
Three: is awesome. I'm so glad they got her back.
The fifth Cylon: for some weird reason I have now convinced myself that it is Doc Cottle. Doesn't make sense at all, does it? I don't know, his last few appearance just seemed very specific to me, especially the one where he holds Natalie's hand while she dies, and now in Laura's death vision. Of course it makes sense that he's there in both cases, but would they really cart Donnelly Rhodes over just to randomly stand around in Laura's vision? I'm probably just babbling nonsense.
Meanwhile, Helo really appears to be married to the entire production line
I guess he does... he wasn't too happy about blowing them up, either, I suppose they wanted one human to react ambiguously to destroying the hub, and Helo is of course the best candidate. Also, Penikett has quite grown as an actor since the beginning, never noticed that before. He was really good in this ep. (Also, Grace. To imagine that I used to skip their scenes in the first season... it's something I love about longer shows, that you actually see people get better, as long as they get something to work with. Well, most do, anyway.)
though I didn't get my wish of seeing Roslin hit Adama over the head with that book for being a selfish prat who deserts the fleet
*g* Judging from the promos, next week will be pretty emotional, maybe you'll get it then...
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Date: 2008-06-09 10:30 am (UTC)That was a very intense scene, and I swear, I was convinced she would let him die.
If we weren't in the final season, I would have been certain of his survival, but we are, and so I fretted, indeed, both on his behalf and hers.
The cockroach must live! Head!Six has promised us he'll see earth in a deleted scene on Kobol.Three: is awesome. I'm so glad they got her back.
Me too. It's another case where when I'm not watching I'm surprised I never have trouble thinking of her only as Three, as Lucy Lawless was so distinctive as Xena, but I do, without fannish deja vue moments, even when she's breaking people's necks. Also, her concern for Baltar answered a question for me - in the third season, I wasn't sure whether she wasn't simply interested in outscoring Caprica Six, but the connection seems to be genuine.
Doc Cottle: well, if he has stuff to do in the next episode they could have filmed his scenes in a row, and he was in the earlier one to give Adama the good "Tigh is going to be a daddy!" news. But it would definitely have emotional impact if he was. My money is still on either Gaeta or Dualla, though.
Growth of actors: yes, and I admit I tended to fastword their scenes on Caprica, too.
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Date: 2008-06-09 10:52 am (UTC)Baltar/Sylar: cockroaches unite!
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Date: 2008-06-09 11:21 am (UTC)Did I say that out loud?no subject
Date: 2008-06-09 11:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-06-09 04:05 pm (UTC)I think all Head!people are the same - either the Cylon God Itself, or "Angels," if you will. I guess Head!Six and Head!Baltar are special in that they are not explicitly connected to the spiritual side of their persons, as Head!Elosha and Head!Leoben are, but rather developed out of a traumatizing situation. (And btw, I have no idea if Romo's Head!Cat also falls under this, or if he just plainly lost it - but of course there is also the possibility that that won't make much of a difference. I think it could be argued that he started seeing the cat for the same reason Baltar started seeing Head!Six and Caprica started seeing Head!Baltar, given that it was also directly connected to the trauma of the attacks.
I can't believe I'm actually seriously discussing this storyline.)Me too. It's another case where when I'm not watching I'm surprised I never have trouble thinking of her only as Three, as Lucy Lawless was so distinctive as Xena, but I do, without fannish deja vue moments, even when she's breaking people's necks. Also, her concern for Baltar answered a question for me - in the third season, I wasn't sure whether she wasn't simply interested in outscoring Caprica Six, but the connection seems to be genuine.
Same here, and yes, her concern was interesting and surprising.
Doc Cottle: well, if he has stuff to do in the next episode they could have filmed his scenes in a row
Of course, that's very possible.
He did have one other scene that I remember off-hand, namely the one where he shares a cigarette with Cally and she tells him how screwed up her whole marriage to Tyrol was - aside from the "intrusive meta/too little too late" aspect a really lovely moment. It just occurred to me that he is a very pivotal minor character who is connected to everybody, so it would make him rather devastating. The one thing I can't reconcile is something one of the Hybrids said about the Fifth, i.e. that he is "clawing towards the light", hoping for redemption. That hardly sounds like Cottle, y'know?
As for Gaeta, I thought so for the longest of times, but the singing seemed a little too much. Dualla just has been on so little, it would seem odd to me - although I've heard rumours the actress was doing a movie at that point, so maybe that's the reason.
Who knows, it'll probably be Boxey.
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Date: 2008-06-09 10:10 am (UTC)Maybe it's just me, but having that bit end with the Basestar jumping out before anyone noticed Adama out there or he got his radio working would have been more interesting...
And someone REALLY needs to make a "Life of Gaius" vid, maybe to the tune of "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life".
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Date: 2008-06-09 10:19 am (UTC)They most definitely did, and I think reaction probably depends on whether or not you
ship them. I don't, but I can see why they needed a living person in the end instead of just letting Roslin acknowledge the necessity of love in the abstract - it's a visual medium.
Life of Gaius: where the vid-savy Monty Python fans when one needs them!
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Date: 2008-06-09 02:25 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2008-06-09 05:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-06-09 02:44 pm (UTC)Ah, that explains the quality of this one.
Love for one person does not automatically give you empathy for others, or compassion.
Sure. And 'love' is apparently the primary commandment of God, according to Cylons and they still committed genocide. This episode goes for a more complex, Ecclesiastic view of God, though, with Gaius Baltar comparing himself to the Flood.
I was pretty convinced during the commercial break that he might die. It was very effective, since you know that Roslin's wanted him dead for quite some time, and that Gaius revealing his complicity in the Cylon attacks is the sort of thing a lesser show WOULD wait until the final scene between these two to reveal.
"I thought I was earning humanity's right to survive!" she complains to Elosha when Gaius is saved but Deanna still won't tell her who the final five are or where Earth is, and gets told it doesn't work that way (though she gets Adama instead). No, it doesn't.
This line more than anything made me convinced that the Head!visions are God.
Who tells Roslin that it's not that Baltar did more good than bad, which he didn't, but that you can't judge humanity's survival on a case by case basis.
Right back to the thesis statement of the show, which gives me a lot of hope that the resolution to the series will be satisfying for me. I was concerned I had been hallucinating it.
Here, it's my one indication she might actually have internalized that even Gaius Baltar, who cost so much of humanity their lives, does not deserve to die.
I think/hope so, but I'm pretty convinced she would still let Baltar die if the cost wasn't so explicitly stated to be her soul. We'll see how she acts towards him in the future. Although, yeah, will never stop being funny or awesome or completely necessary that Roslin claws her own redemption out of the figure of Gaius Baltar. Especially since the text makes absolutely explicit (in case the audience wasn't paying attention) that Baltar is her moral barometer, that she could never grasp a sense of her own wrongdoing so long as she was constantly thinking that she was his moral opposition.
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Date: 2008-06-09 03:26 pm (UTC)When you justify yourself by saying "well, I'm better than Baltar", things are pretty dire indeed. I think this moral barometer thing started when he visited her in the overnight prison cell on New Caprica and flabbergasted her for a moment when making a point about suicide bombings before she got the higher ground back by talking about the arrests instead.
The Head!visions pretty much have to be God (or however Moore chooses to call his version in the BSGverse), unless he's doing that Pagh Wraith thing again and some of them (say, Baltar's and Six's) are from the opposition. Which I would find disappointing. I still have Pagh Wraith and Prophet issues.
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Date: 2008-06-09 05:47 pm (UTC)I think it goes back further, although I'm loathe to point out where exactly, so yours is as good a reason as any. There's certainly an element present when she tries to steal the election, because her reasoning is that no matter how bad it is to do that, it will still be better than President Baltar.
The Head!visions pretty much have to be God (or however Moore chooses to call his version in the BSGverse), unless he's doing that Pagh Wraith thing again and some of them (say, Baltar's and Six's) are from the opposition. Which I would find disappointing. I still have Pagh Wraith and Prophet issues.
I manage to convince myself between episodes that they are not God. I would find it deeply distressing if Baltar's angel!Six were not, in fact, sent by God since I think the narrative that Baltar's life exists because sometimes 'the Flood' is necessary is more challenging than the narrative that it was the Devil's Work all along.
(You can see how sometimes being an American is deeply distressing to me in that response. Blah. Six more months, six more months...)
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Date: 2008-06-10 07:06 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2008-06-11 04:46 am (UTC)I liked that we get some acknowledgment that Roslin has been consciously or unconsciously closing herself off to compassion over the last months. We've all noticed that she's become harder and more ruthless, so it was good to know that she is going to have to deal with the consequences of that to her own spirit, and the effect it has had on the others in the fleet.
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