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Title: Patterns

Summary: There are patterns in the Doctor’s lives. Just ask the Brigadier, or Harriet Jones.

Characters: Third Doctor, Tenth Doctor, the Brigadier, Harriet Jones, the Master.

Disclaimer: Characters and situations owned by the BBC.

Spoilers: until The Doctor's Daughter, with some foreshadowing for The Stolen Earth.

Author’s note: character portrait and meta disguised as fanfiction, in a way. While it uses Old Who canon as well as New Who, I hope it’s accessible to New Whovians who haven’t watched a single Old School episode.




Patterns

I.

The Doctor is in his third body, and just starting to adjust, badly, to a linear life, stuck at one point in time. He’s working with UNIT - for UNIT, if truth be told, though he tells himself he’s doing the humans a favour, he’s not really their subordinate, he’s helping, that’s all – because if he has to stand still, they at least allow him to channel his energies into something useful. Something resembling his old life as much as it’s possible while being in a very generous prison, courtesy of his own people. Besides, he likes the Brigadier, whom he has met and worked with before. His own impatience with the military notwithstanding, he respects the man. He trusts him.

Then the Silurians appear. Another sentient species native to Earth, much older than humanity, in hibernation through millennia and anything but thrilled to discover their planet has been usurped by apes. The Doctor tries to negotiate, tries to reach a compromise between the species, but the one Silurian who listens to him and is willing to reconsider is assassinated. The Silurians launch a first strike, a biological weapon, turning human bodies against them. The Doctor manages to trick them back into hibernation. He’s young still, confident, optimistic. He’ll wake them up one by one, spend time with them, convince them, and this time it will go better. More death will be avoided.

Except it isn’t, because the Brigadier seals their caves and blows them up. When the Doctor sees the explosion and realises what it means, the mixture of shock, horror, a sense of betrayal and above all anger chokes him for a moment. When he can speak again, there is no doubt in his mind.

“That was murder.”


II.

The Doctor is in his tenth body, barely, just starting to adjust to it, the regeneration not yet settled. He is quite old now, new physical appearance notwithstanding, but he feels like he’s been granted a new lease on life. He’s surrounded by Rose and her family, and Harriet Jones, Prime Minister. Brilliant woman. Innate distrust of politicians aside, he’s met and worked with Harriet Jones before. He respects her, he trusts her.

The attempted invasion by the Sycorax was a close call. But that’s settled now. Predictable people, the Sycorax, with their warrior creed, but not as one track minded as the Sontarans, luckily, and not nearly as technologically advanced. Being able to regrow his hand because he’s still within the first fifteen hours of his regeneration cyle was a bonus – he doesn’t really fancy spending a lifetime one-handed – but even if that hadn’t been the case, it would have been worth it. One hand, that’s nothing if you manage to avoid a war between species.

Then Harriet Jones orders Torchwood, whoever they are, to fire at will, and the retreating Sycorax ship is blown out of the sky. Rose gasps, Jackie puts her hand on her mouth, but the Doctor doesn’t really notice either of them. His attention is focused on Harriet Jones, and the mixture of anger and betrayal he feels is all too familiar. When he can speak again, there is no doubt in his mind.

“That was murder.”


III.

For a good while after the Silurians have been wiped out, the Doctor doesn’t talk to the Brigadier. Liz is running interference between them, and when the Brigadier does ask for his help again, the Doctor can’t refrain from asking whether the Brigadier has murdered any aliens lately.

He can tell from the expression in Liz’ face that she thinks he’s being unfair. Of course she does. The Silurians threatened her species; she might not have approved of the Brigadier’s methods, but she’s glad of the result. Better she thinks that he’s unfair, though, than realising the truth, which is that he’s a coward. The death of the Silurians sickened him, but he can’t bring himself to draw consequences that really matter. He doesn’t leave UNIT, or turn against the Brigadier in any way other than through ineffective words. Not because he can’t, but because doing so would mean giving up what makes his exile bearable. The laboratory, the access to what mysteries this planet in this time zone has to offer, the company. He has never done well on his own, and in this state, with part of his mind clouded and his TARDIS just as broken, the idea of living on his own frightens him. He’s dependent, and the sense of powerlessness, the anger with himself for being so is something he’ll never forget.


IV.

“Defence,” she says. Of course she does.

“They were leaving,” the Doctor protests, but he can see on Harriet’s face it doesn’t matter to her. She thinks she just prevented the Sycorax from coming back, saved her species through a pre-emptive strike, just as the Brigadier did all those years ago with the Silurians. The Silurians, who as it turned out were not completely wiped out. Some of them had adapted for a life under the sea, and they were even less inclined to believe that peace with the human race was possible once they found out what happened to their brethren. But the truth, the truth which the Doctor will only admit to himself, is that the thought Harriet’s actions could provoke the remaining Sycorax to send another ship isn’t the main reason for what he feels right now.

He’s not young anymore, and he doesn’t have the excuse of a clouded mind and an exile for not drawing consequences. He doesn’t even have the excuse of naiveté for not paying attention and not predicting what she would do. “I should have stopped you,” he says, and now she is angry as well.

“What does that make you Doctor? Another alien threat?”

She’s right. He’s not human. He can see time unfolding around her, what was, what is, what could be, what must not be. He is not human, and in a moment fuelled by past and present alike, he does what his people were never supposed to, what caused his exile so many years ago in the first place. He interferes. Out of the myriad of possibilities the life of Harriet Jones offers, he chooses one by speaking six words.

It’s done.

V.

The next encounter between humans and aliens, the Probe 7 affair, ends better, with the Doctor able to negotiate peace between them. He doesn’t apologize to the Brigadier, and the Brigadier doesn’t apologize to him, but there is an awareness they’ve made their own peace with each other, despite still convinced the other was wrong. They never mention the Silurians again, not until the Master is captured by UNIT, and there are quite a few voices calling for his execution. He’s responsible for at least as many dead humans as the Silurians were, and he doesn’t have their cause. He’s also not an entire species. He is one man.

“Geneva is asking for my opinion”, the Brigadier tells the Doctor. “He already nearly caused World War III once, and nobody has forgotten that. Can you seriously tell me he’ll ever stop being a threat?”

The Doctor can’t, and while he’s not above lying to his friends on occasion, it doesn’t even occur to him to do so this time. He’s too aware that the Brigadier is offering to do now what he didn’t with the Silurians: trust in his judgment. This deserves nothing less than complete honesty in return. He has already made his own suggestion regarding the Master: imprisonment. Which, truth to tell, would have benefits for no one but the Master, who might be kept from harming others for a while but more importantly won’t run out of regenerations while disbelieving humans execute him again and again.

“If I weren’t here anymore,” he says, not really looking at the Brigadier, because it isn’t easy to spell this matter out to oneself, let alone to someone else, “then I don’t think he’d bother with Earth, either.”

“I see,” the Brigadier says, with a neutral expression that gives nothing away. There is something to be said for this period’s reticence among male conversations. The Doctor remembers visiting Earth 20 years later, when humans seem to be obsessed with discussing their feelings, and suppresses a shudder. “Well,” the Brigadier continues, “that does limit the options. Since I’m not about to lose my scientific advisor. Even if you get that box of yours going again.” He looks at the Doctor, and his gaze is shrewd and unrelenting. The Doctor is reminded of the fact the Brigadier, as opposed to Liz Shaw, had been entirely prepared for his little ruse back when the Time Lords first dumped him on Earth, had expected him to follow his first instinct and run.

“I’m going to recommend imprisonment to Geneva. Since we can count on you to be there whenever we need you, no matter how conditions may change for you.”

It’s a bargain being offered, plain and simple. Before his exile, visiting the Earth had been purely voluntary on the Doctor’s part, and entirely up to the whims of the TARDIS and himself. He liked humans and liked helping them when chance would have it, but he didn’t feel obliged to do so, or to check on a regular basis whether or not they needed it. What the Brigadier wants now is a promise in exchange for the Master’s life, a promise that will extend beyond this body, this lifetime. The Doctor hasn’t made vows to anyone since early in his first body, and he hasn’t stopped running since then, either, not unless forced to. His own people certainly don’t trust him to keep to their rules without force; it would never have occurred to them to ask for a promise.

“You can,” the Doctor says, returning the Brigadier’s look as directly, and though he has just shackled himself to this planet for the rest of eternity, he can’t find an ounce of regret.


VI.

The Master rules Earth exactly one year, in human terms. During that year, time is a paradox, its natural flow warped, its countless possibilities twisted. Sometimes, when not weaving the threads of the Archangel Network together in his mind, the Doctor tries to follow the current line back to where it started to go wrong. Malcassario is an obvious and important point, but the intricate pattern that is now turned inside out offers other crucial departures that allowed for the current situation to happen. Tracking down one particular avenue, the Doctor finds himself and Harriet Jones, that Christmas Day. He’s not the only one who does.

“I could see it when I met her,” the Master tells him, in one of those fruitless conversations they have that start with taunts and end in silence, and that still happen because neither of them can do without them. “Here I was, rising hope of Britain meeting the Prime Minister in her decline, ready to be bored out of my mind because really, no challenge no fun, and then you made my day. It practically glowed around her, that timeline turned sideways. Such a lovely spectacle to watch.”

If those six words had not been spoken and Harriet had been at her full strength, carried by popularity, the people of Britain might have not been swayed by the Archangel Network. More likely than not the Master would have had her assassinated, blamed someone else and would have risen to power in the wake of national grief and paranoia, but this is beside the point. The Doctor has never believed in excusing one’s own actions by claiming someone else would have done something worse.

He does believe in doing something with the consequences of one’s actions, his own as much as anyone else’s. His body, aged up and down a few times now at the Master’s convenience, is still his own, and it would be quite easy to find a way to permanently die. The power of words works in many ways; he could provoke several of the Toclafane, for example, whose glee in violence is aroused so quickly. It’s doubtful that he would regenerate in his current condition, and he believes, now more than ever, what he told the Brigadier all those years ago: the Master would not bother with Earth if the Doctor as his audience weren’t available anymore.

But if he dies now, there is no guarantee the paradox will ever be reversed, and that means all those millions who died since it started remain dead. If he dies now, and the Master leaves Earth without destroying it entirely in a giant fit of pique, it will take humanity centuries to recover, and they won’t get centuries, not with the Silurians and their last attempt to take their planet back due in 2084, events that are fixed, and he already participated in. If he dies now, then his promise to the Brigadier will be broken, and this is the one vow, the only vow, he has always been able to honour.

He thinks of the last of the Silurians, currently sleeping under the sea, and his inability to find a way to save both them and the humans. He thinks about the Sycorax and Harriet Jones, and choices made, his and hers. He’s young again, in a body forced on him, watching an explosion and tasting death and failure in the very air he breathes. He’s old and reborn, and the ash of a ship full of living creatures raining down on his face resembles nothing as much as snow while his life comes full circle.

In his mind, thousands of voices murmur, all different sounds. None of them are his own species; he has shut his mind against the only other voice of his own species still in existence because he has to, because the Master can’t be allowed to find out what he plans. But it will all change. The end will be different, this time. He’ll manage to save both humanity and the Master. There will be no burning bodies at the end of this road.


VII.

Once you have entered someone’s timeline at a certain point and found out you did not see this person before that point, it’s impossible to change this without risking destabilizing the universe, which is why the Doctor, having received Reinette’s last letter, cannot go back and change her past so she would never need to write it. This is why he makes a point of avoiding encountering the Brigadier in the early 21st century and keeps returning to earlier points, before the millennium changes. The Brigadier is human, he will die, of old age, he has to, but as long as the Doctor isn’t there to witness his death or learn about it shortly after, the Brigadier’s personal timeline is flexible enough to allow for any number of earlier visits.

He breaks with this rule after the Sontaran incident, after bringing Martha back home. After Jenny. Colonel Mace said the Brigadier was in Peru, so the Doctor tracks him down there while Donna catches up with her grandfather. The Brigadier’s hair is completely white now, and there are only a few possibilities in the time unfolding around him left, but his gaze is sharp as ever. It doesn’t take him long to figure out there has to be a reason why a version of the Doctor seeks him out at this time, and not earlier, and being the Brigadier, he asks, point blank.

“Because,” the Doctor says, “I need to ask you something, and the younger you wouldn't know who Harriet Jones is. Or what happened in these last years.”

“I see,” the Brigadier replies, eloquent as ever with those two syllables. The Doctor, uncertain the Brigadier in his semi-retirement would have been familiar with all the details, briefly summarizes what happened that Christmas Day more than two years ago. At least, “briefly” was the intention; as usual, words run away with him, until the Brigadier stops him by declaring “For God’s sake, Doctor, you’re giving me a headache.”

“Sorry.”

“Are you asking me which of you was right, is that it?”

The Doctor shakes his head. “I know you’d agree with her,” he says. “I knew that while it happened. That’s why I want to know is what you would have done next, in her place.”

“Drawn the consequences and tried again, I suppose,” the Brigadier says, sounding somewhat surprised the Doctor needs to ask. “And made a tactical reassessment. You can be absolutely infuriating, Doctor, but there is no one I’d rather have at my side. Frankly, if one single electoral defeat were enough to send Harriet Jones into retirement, she’d never been able to give us a golden age to begin with. I never met the woman myself, but I did vote for her, and I’m sure she is not sitting around idly right now but busy doing her best to ensure the safety of the planet somehow. Given that you are our most efficient ally, your paths are bound to cross again.”

He’s both far younger and older than the Doctor will ever be, this human who knows him, all of him, better than anyone still alive. The Doctor concentrates and focuses, but while he can sense the planet itself moving around the sun, teeming with myriads of possibilities, he’s unable to tell whether the Brigadier’s prediction is among them. He hopes so. He has no idea what he will say to Harriet Jones if they should meet again, but for now the possibility is enough.

The Doctor sits next to his friend while the shadows grow longer, thinks about people saved and people lost, the last of them a girl who never even once felt the sun on her face and died because she listened to him and chose not to kill. He thinks about cycles, and patterns and the vain attempts to break them. And he knows that whatever will come, he’ll try to break them again. This is who he is, in every regeneration.

This is the debt he owes.

Date: 2008-07-01 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skipthedemon.livejournal.com
This is lovely. Excellent.

Date: 2008-07-01 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Thank you!

Date: 2008-07-01 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] butterflykiki.livejournal.com
Love this. It's a wonderful examination of both the Doctor's morality, outside of human ethics, and both the Brigadier and Harriet Jones. Both of them responsible for humanity's survival, not the timestreams', or other species; and both of them okay with that, accepting a really huge responsibility, but not taking on more. And not because of a lack of compassion or morality, either, I think. Just that they knew their limits too; and they weren't the type to second-guess themselves, even if they found later they'd been wrong, or whatever. Accept the consequences, and go on. The Doctor's always had a hard time with that-- since so often he could go back, and alter things, I think.

Love the way this weaves back and forth, and yayyyy, Stolen Earth fic. I knew it would get us some good stories.

Date: 2008-07-01 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
It's a wonderful examination of both the Doctor's morality, outside of human ethics, and both the Brigadier and Harriet Jones.

Thank you. I was really happy that The Stolen Earth gave us more on Harriet and such a splendid exit for her, and that she didn't recant, but as opposed to a lot of other reviewers, my original problem with The Christmas Invasion had never been the Doctor's position per se, nor had I seen it as OOC or unique to Ten. Again, see story for character constistency. My problem had been that as opposed to The Silurians, where the Brig's position was essentially the same as Harriet's but you didn't get the impression that the narrative necessarily meant us to automatically share the Doctor's pov (nor automatically the Brig's - I thought we were meant to make up our own mind), The Christmas Invasion by itself allowed the interpretation Harriet was condemmed by narrative as well as Doctor. (Different thing.) Later of course we got some follow up with the whole Saxon plot, and then The Stolen Earth made it absolutely clear Harriet was not meant to be a negative character, on the contrary. Unfortunately, this resulted in a resurrgence of hostility towards the Doctor and complete condemnation of his postion, and this displeased me just as much as complete condemnation of Harriet. Things are never that simple. As you say, Harriet and the Brigadier have a different kind of responsibility, and a different set of ethics. I like things being difficult, making it impossible to roundly condemn just one or the other, and I wanted to examine that.

Date: 2008-07-01 03:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] genarti
I love this.

Date: 2008-07-01 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
*beams*

Date: 2008-07-01 03:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
Lovely work weaving the old with the new and back, and it's especially lovely to see the natural comparison between the Brig and Harriet handled so deftly.

Date: 2008-07-01 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
I've thought a lot about this ever since The Christmas Invasion, and this season gave me the final missing pieces, so to speak. Thanks for the feedback!

Date: 2008-07-01 04:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] elisi
character portrait and meta disguised as fanfiction
If that is a kink, then it is my major one! *Adored* this - gorgeous, gorgeous parallels and you really manage to get under the skin of the Doctor!

Date: 2008-07-01 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Thank you, and I'm so happy this works for you as a New Whovian!

I really hadn't intended to write any more fanfic due to rl stuff, but the power of the show and various reviews compelled me, so to speak.*g*

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Date: 2008-07-01 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com
OK, that makes all sorts of sense. Thanks!

Date: 2008-07-01 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
I was hoping it might. Also? I love your icon!

Date: 2008-07-01 05:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kathyh
Excellent. Wonderful parallels to the two situations throughout and that final scene between the Doctor and the Brigadier has gone straight into my personal canon :)

Date: 2008-07-01 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Thank you. It's my first time writing the Brig, and writing him with the Doctor to boot, so I hoped it would work as the conclusion really had to be that scene between them...

Date: 2008-07-01 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bats_eye.livejournal.com
This is just wonderful. I love all of them a great deal.

Date: 2008-07-01 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Me too, and I'm glad it came across!

Date: 2008-07-01 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bagheera-san.livejournal.com
:D This is incredibly awesome. I love the parallels between new and old that you draw, and the idea of the debt. It's such a fascinating deal: on the one hand he's willing to commit, to perpetuate part of his imprisonment in exchange for the Master's life, but then there's also that aspect of making sure that he'll forever be tied to UNIT, because he's afraid to let go or wants these ties to Earth. And it kind of pays off, in the end, because of the Time War: he has a second home then.

And this is both sad and wonderful:this human who knows him, all of him, better than anyone still alive. Somehow the whole story is at once tragic and comforting.

Date: 2008-07-01 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
the idea of the debt.

I just thought of it the other day when we were discussing, over at [livejournal.com profile] best_enemies, how a "what to do with the Master" conversation between the Doctor and the Brig post-Daemons would go since the Doctor mentions death was on the cards in "The Sea Devils". So I wondered how the Brigadier, being the man he is - who feels responsible for humanity first - would justify to himself NOT executing the Master who's clearly as dangerous as the Silurians ever were, and "just because the Doctor asked nicely" seemed ooc. And then it became a crucial element of this story and the Doctor's relationship with Earth and humanity in general.

And this is both sad and wonderful:this human who knows him, all of him, better than anyone still alive.

I don't know whether you've seen Battlefield (that's where my Seven and Brig icon is from) - the scene where the Doctor thinks the Brigadier has died has him holding him in his arms basically the way Ten holds the dying Master, and being all torn up and lamenting (and then the Brig wakes up and the Doctor is just a tad embarassed while the Brig says really, would I die on you, and hands him over to Ace, so to speak). I was thinking of that - for the post-Time War incarnations of the Doctor, the uniqueness of that friendship would be even more acute.

Date: 2008-07-01 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astrogirl2.livejournal.com
This is quite lovely.

You know, coincidentally, I was just thinking yesterday about "The Silurians" and "The Christmas Invasion," and what it means that he forgives the Brigadier and not Harriet Jones, but I didn't exactly get very far with the thinky-thoughts, so I find this thoughtful exploration of the question especially welcome.

Come to think of it, I was also just yesterday vaguely pondering the question of exactly when it is he become so attached to Earth... And this notion that he made an actual promise to protect it is extremely believable, and somehow also incredibly poignant.

Oh, and this line:

There will be no burning bodies at the end of this road.

Made me say "ouch," out loud as I was reading. :)

Date: 2008-07-01 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Come to think of it, I was also just yesterday vaguely pondering the question of exactly when it is he become so attached to Earth

As you can see, me too.*g* Because he isn't yet as One or Two. I mean, he likes Earth during that time, no question about it, and of course his companions start to influence him, but I still wouldn't say he likes it better than other nifty planets he visits. So in connection with other things I thought about, I came up with this.

Made me say "ouch," out loud as I was reading. :)

*bows*

Date: 2008-07-01 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] futuresoon.livejournal.com
Oh, beautiful. I hadn't realized his reactions to the slaughter of the Silurians and the Sycorax even had the same words in them--it's lovely when things like that pop up, isn't it? And lovely job of keeping that connection running throughout the fic, and even folding the Master into it for added layers of angst--and I love that a promise to the Brigadier is what kept him tied to Earth, and your mention of your theory that he didn't visit the Brig for a long time because he didn't want it to be the last visit, and of course the nod to Harriet Jones' work on the subwave network, and the Brig (literally) bringing him down to Earth on the whole issue, and everything. Exactly what one needs.

Date: 2008-07-01 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
And lovely job of keeping that connection running throughout the fic, and even folding the Master into it for added layers of angst--and I love that a promise to the Brigadier is what kept him tied to Earth

That was the last ingredient I needed to make my various thoughts on the subject into a story. (And you know, I can't decide whether the Master would feel flattered or would be absolutely furious about being leverage for this particular promise, but luckily this is Doctor pov only.) And you know I'm a softie for the Brig-Doctor friendship in a big, big way precisely because the Brigadier is so clear sighted about the whole thing and would ask for such a promise on Earth's behalf - and the Doctor would keep it.

Date: 2008-07-01 06:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] wondygal.livejournal.com
I love this very much. I'm a bit teary now (damn you), so I can't seem to expand on it, but I love this quite a lot.

Let me try anyway: I absolutely love how you show the relationship between the Doctor and the Brigadier, no matter which regeneration is concerned. I love that Lethbridge-Stewart doesn't have a magical answer for the Doctor, I love that the Doctor is thinking about Jenny. I love your logic for how timelines are fixed via the Doctor being there, and your clever use of Reinette as an example. I like how the Doctor is both old and young.

I really like seeing you write down the events of Silurians and Ambassadors of Death, because I love the emotional and thematic continuity of those two stories, and I'm always pleasantly surprised to see Classic Who doing this, because I expected it wouldn't it, but it does it quite well.

Ok, I'm not teary anymore! I think I'm gonna watch some Three. Damn, I love this universe.

Date: 2008-07-02 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
I really like seeing you write down the events of Silurians and Ambassadors of Death, because I love the emotional and thematic continuity of those two stories, and I'm always pleasantly surprised to see Classic Who doing this, because I expected it wouldn't it, but it does it quite well.

It does, doesn't it? I remember this surprising me, too, the first time I watched, after having been told the cliché that there was no emotional continuity. And The Ambassadors of Death was so important both because it's one of those rare stories that has a genuine happy ending for all parties (everyone lives, ahem) and because it's the needed follow-up in the Doctor-Brig relationship.

I love your logic for how timelines are fixed via the Doctor being there, and your clever use of Reinette as an example.

After The Girl in the Fireplace was broadcast quite a lot reviews asked he didn't just use the TARDIS to return to Reinette at an earlier point, and the reason was always clear to me, so I just had to use this example.*g* And the experience with Jenny just needed to be alluded to; both for the impact it had on the Doctor and how it fitted in his convoluted relationship and struggle with ethics and violence...


Date: 2008-07-01 07:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] aralias.livejournal.com
you should write more fanfic! this is excellent.

i love that three and ten both have the same reaction, but that the three was forced to deal with it better simply because he had to stay and deal with people rather than GIANT CONCEPTS OF DOOM. i also love that ten goes to the brig for validation (and gets it) and the little timey-wimey visiting people before they're dead theory you expound on. making sense of dubious canon=always good.

tiny voice note - “I need to ask you something, and the younger you would not know who Harriet Jones is.' i think ten's a 'wouldn't' sort of man rather than a 'would not' sort of man. but basically - the fic is made of win :)

as a little aside, i'm also really pleased that the brig voted for harriet rather than the master (strength of mind - hurrah!)

Date: 2008-07-02 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Given that both Jack and Martha fully intended to vote Saxon, I could have let the Brig be influenced, I suppose, but then in addition to strength of mind he has experience with the fellow, so I decided he'd have voted Jones all the way.*g*

You're right re: Ten and "wouldn't" - I'll edit this.

The Three and Ten identical reaction and the different fallout plus the reasons for same was the first thing that propelled me to write the story, so I'm glad it came across. Thank you for the feedback!

Date: 2008-07-01 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oracne.livejournal.com
Your Brigadier voice is PERFECT.

Date: 2008-07-02 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
This makes me happy and relieved, as I had never written him before and love him very much as a character, so wanted to do him justice.

Date: 2008-07-01 09:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tree_and_leaf
This is lovely - it's nice to see the genuine nature of the dilemma being expressed here, and your Brigadier voice is fantastic. I like the idea of the Doctor's unspoken bargin with the Brigadier, and the motivation behind his commitment to Earth. One for the memories!

Date: 2008-07-02 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Thank you; I'm glad the dilemma came across, and that the Brigadier's voice feels true!

Date: 2008-07-01 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skywaterblue.livejournal.com
Awesome. I wish I felt clever enough to talk about this story in an intelligent way, but I don't because I think it's all there in the text.

Date: 2008-07-02 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
*beams*

Date: 2008-07-01 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] midnightsjane.livejournal.com
I liked this a lot, and I'm one of those who has never seen any of the old Who; I'm not sure who the Brigadier is, and haven't any knowledge of that part of Who history, but this story still made sense to me. I'm so happy that Harriet Jones got to go out on a strong note, and that she wasn't made to recant her choices.

Date: 2008-07-02 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
So am I (happy re: Harriet Jones, that is), and I'm really glad the story worked for you as a New Whovian.

The Brigadier is Brigadier Alastair Lethbridge-Stewart. The Doctor first met him as Two, when the Brig (nickname both in canon and among fans) was just a Colonel, and there were Yeti in the London Underground (don't ask). Subsequently, UNIT was formed to deal with alien encounters, and the Brigadier was promoted to lead the British branch of same. When the Doctor forced to regenerate and was exiled to Earth for some years by the Time Lords, he met the Brigadier again and ended up working for UNIT. The matter with the Silurians happened early on. The Third Doctor eventually reconciled with the Time Lords, regained his missing memories and got the TARDIS repaired, but he and subsequent regenerations kept in touch with UNIT and the Brigadier, whose last tv appearance was with the Seventh Doctor in Battlefield. (In audios and comics, he also met Eight and Ten.) Thus he's definitely the human whom the Doctor keeps returning to through his regenerations and one of the most beloved Old Who characters. We were all thrilled when Ten and Colonel Mace mentioned him The Poisoned Sky. (As in: "At times like this I could do with the Brigadier - no offense." "None taken. Sir Alastair is one of the best. Sadly, he's also stuck in Peru." And thus we found out the Brig got knighted. Good for him!)

Date: 2008-07-02 12:53 am (UTC)
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Oh, wow. This is absolutely amazing.

Date: 2008-07-02 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Thank you!

Date: 2008-07-02 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-losfic.livejournal.com
Oh, hey, it's that fic! With the Brig conversation/confrontation! And /very/ well handled too. I enjoy the reticence and the delicacy regarding Three spelling out the Master’s motivation, either to himself or the Brig.

Oh, and Liz. Ah Liz/Brig, the ship that never sailed... It would have been cute, though. All that banter for naught...

Date: 2008-07-02 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Liz/Brig: It would have been very cute: I must admit I like what fanfic there is which makes it go all Brief Encounter , because the Brig is definitely a Brief Encounter man in his Englishness.

And yes, it's that fic. Or rather, it snuck up on me, didn't want to wait any longer and demanded to be written into this fic. *g*

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Squee! I will watch that list! Thanks!

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You're welcome!

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Date: 2008-07-02 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neuralclone.livejournal.com
{{{hugs the Doctor and the Brigadier}}}

I've nothing much to add to the comments above, except to say I found this a fascinating exploration of the way the Doctor has changed and the consistant threads which run through his character.

Date: 2008-07-02 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
...And you know, Ten would actually hug the Brigadier. The other regenerations respect the code of manly behaviour too much.*g* (Though Seven clutches his unconscious body at one point.) Thanks for the feedback; this angle just beckoned to be explored...

Date: 2008-07-02 05:02 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] versaphile.livejournal.com
Oh, excellent! And great character meta. I love the links you made here between the Silurians/UNIT and the Sycorax/Harriet. And Brig is always FTW.

Date: 2008-07-02 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
I'll have you know that conversations about different morality in your journal contributed to this.*g* Thank you.

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Date: 2008-07-02 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silverweave.livejournal.com
Ooo new fic from selenak, hooray!

I love the quiet contemplative mood you bring to this, even though it's life and death events, it fits. and the chracterisation is as ever, spot on, you write the Doctor so well.

Date: 2008-07-02 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Thank you!

Date: 2008-07-02 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starmalachite.livejournal.com
Oooooh. about time someone took advantage of all those resonances! Very well done indeed.

Minor friendly nitpicking: "reigning" should be "raining." Repeat after me: "Spellcheck is not my friend."

You're in Munich? Ich habe in 1983 München besuchen!

Date: 2008-07-02 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
I'll edit, thanks! And thank you for the feedback.

Ich wohne in München, bin aber sehr oft unterwegs...

Date: 2008-07-03 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rusty_halo.livejournal.com
Oooh, this is really cool. I love the parallels you've drawn between the Brig and Harriet Jones. (Obviously I need to actually watch those old episodes instead of just reading meta and fic about them.)

I really love the ambiguity (which you've explored nicely here) of the Doctor's decision re: Harriet Jones. I always felt like the show did an amazing job of presenting a moral argument that doesn't have a clear "right" or "wrong" answer but depends on the POV of the character making the choice.

Personally, I agree with the Doctor there, that it's wrong to shoot a retreating enemy in the back, but I love Harriet Jones. I understand where she's coming from, and I'm so glad she ends up standing by her choice. Even though I think she's wrong, it would've been a betrayal of her character and of the ambiguity of the moral situation they'd set up if she had given in and agreed with the Doctor. And I love that she had the strength of character to call for the Doctor, even though he'd deposed her, because she knew he was humanity's best hope.

Date: 2008-07-03 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
You know, I agree on all accounts - I, too, think it's wrong to shoot a retreating or surrendering enemy in the back, but I also think it was the right choice on the part of the show/RTD not to let Harriet recant but stand by her own choice. I like that we can understand both Harriet and the Doctor's povs in this matter, that they come from different positions even though they want the same thing - humanity safe. And now that we've seen Harriet follow this up by doing what she does in The Stolen Earth, the parallels (and differences) to the earlier situation with the Brig I've mulled over for eons just made it irresistable not to write the story.

Date: 2008-12-21 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] takethesky87.livejournal.com
I have no knowledge in Old Who, but I still enjoyed this quite a bit. A lovely insight into the Doctor's character and motives. Thank you for linking to it in your latest entry, or else I probably wouldn't have found it! I've really got to finish up those last few episodes of season 4 so that I can dive headfirst into this fandom ... :)

Date: 2008-12-21 09:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm happy the story works for you, and hey, welcome to DW fandom. (Which, like every fandom, is crazy and has great fanfic as well as headdesking moments.*g*) My icon shows the Brigadier and the Doctor in his third incarnation, so you know how they looked like back then. If you use the dr. who tag on my journal, you'll find a lot of fanfic recs, for both New Who and Old Who scenarios, and also a lot of meta about New Who episodes...

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