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Jul. 2nd, 2008 05:54 pm
selenak: (Tosh and Owen by Diapadme)
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Torchwood:

The right kind of doctor: set between seasons 1 and 2, this is a portrait of Owen and his relationships with Ianto, Gwen and Tosh respectively. I love stories set in the Jack-less time, not because I have anything against Jack but because that was when these people actually became a team. The voices here are great, and all ring true; above all, it renders Owen in his prickly, dysfunctional yet trying to be more glory.

Lost:

The mouth that lies, slays the soul: not surprisingly with this title, this deals with the Oceanic 6, Desmond, Penny, Charlie, Michael, Frank and Ben. Spoilers for all of season 4. Harsh and beautiful.

Date: 2008-07-02 03:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] wondygal.livejournal.com
Owen fic, excellent! I just read your fic Nowhere Man (almost a year after you posted, ack. I loved it, btw.) yesterday, which made me miss him so much I started listening to a Torchwood audiobook mostly to hear Burn Gorman narrating. Oh, Owen, you bastard, I love you.

Date: 2008-07-02 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Owen is my favourite Torchwood character and always was, though in season 1 that was because he was the only one who truly interested me. Thankfully, in s2 I became both fond of and interested in the others as well, but I still will miss Owen terribly next year.

And hey, thank you. Nowhere Man was one of the most rewarding Multiverse crossovers to write, though I fretted terribly about it, since I knew the recipient hated Owen back then. But he had to be the pov character, several of the key scenes wouldn't have worked with anyone else, so I could see no way around it. Thankfully, my recipient was an open-minded soul who despite her dislike for the character enjoyed the story. (And ironically became fond of Owen in s2 in time for him to die on her. I think she still blames me a bit.)

Date: 2008-07-02 04:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
Owen fic, yay!

...Also, on a slightly tangential note, is your icon available for snagging? I've had a nagging wish for some Owen, Tosh, or general Torchwood icons lately, and that one is just lovely.

Date: 2008-07-02 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Speaking of icons, yours is just too adorable. (And of course we all know the Master's TARDIS felt that way.*g*)

I snagged that icon myself in a community, so as long as you credit the person who made it (Diapadme), snag away! *uses other Owen icon by linaerys*

Date: 2008-07-02 04:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
Lol. Thanks! I'm tempted to do a whole cartoon strip of them, if I get a little free time, because... like you said. Their love is so obvious. ;)

Awesome. And... oh my, that one is lovely, too. I could just strangle Rusty for not having the sense to do whatever was needed to keep Burn Gorman on the show...

Date: 2008-07-02 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
And you know the scriptwriters wanted us to know. I mean, they came up with the term "Time Ram"...

I could just strangle Rusty for not having the sense to do whatever was needed to keep Burn Gorman on the show...

I still have the hope that at the end of the next season, Owen will make a dramatic cliffhanger return, as his second death was a clear echo of Dr. Manhattan's origin story in Watchmen and the writers of this show are geeks. I mean, it's not a coincidence they gave Owen the most meaty character development as they knew what they had in Burn Gorman.

Date: 2008-07-02 04:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
....Oh god, I'm not sure I'd heard that one before... oh my...

It would all depend on Burn's schedule, I suspect, and from what I've seen he's a pretty successful guy. For good reason, as you said... damn but he's a fine actor. Too good for Torchwood, but I love the character enough that I hope he'll be back anyway.

And I really have to ask you to stop using increasingly adorable Owen icons. The last thing I need is getting fic-bunnied in the middle of a work day! ;)

Date: 2008-07-02 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
It's canon. They use it in The Time Monster. Early on, the Doctor materializes his TARDIS inside the Master's TARDIS, which allows for some nifty effects and fun bickering, and later at the grand climax, the universe can only be saved if the two TARDISes, well, "Time-Ram". The Time Monster is the good crack, I tell you.

Fine, no more Owen icons. I've used them all up anyway.

Date: 2008-07-02 04:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
Oh my god, the Tardis sex is canon. That's just lovely. And here I was thinking "Inferno" was the most crack-tastic episode ever written... Which era is "The Time Monster?" Because I think I must see that, now...

Hah! I am immune to Gwen and her googly eyes! ....well, sort of. More immune than to Owen, at least... ♥

Date: 2008-07-02 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Third Doctor, of course. It opens with the Doctor dreaming of the Master leering at him (which he then proceeds to tell the Brig about who REALLY does not want to know). also features the Master seducing the Queen of Atlantis in a "so, there!" gesture to the Doctor, a minotaur, the Doctor telling Jo a story about his childhood that just goes to show he hopens up to her the way he does to few companions, a naked Benton and culminates in the Doctor begging Time Herself for the Master's life. Successfully, of course.

Your Doctor/TARDIS icon is just too adorable, and so true. Even if you disdain my pretty Gwen. Have some appropriate Three era icon instead.

Date: 2008-07-02 05:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
Well, of course... how could I ever have doubted? That... wow. That episode sounds like it has everything! That's it, that's my next classic episode to hunt down. (And the poor Brig... of course the Doctor would tell him about that.) Too wonderful.

Thanks! What can I say - Gwen is just not as pretty as Owen, even if she does have lovely impossibly huge eyes. And since I am short on either Delgado or Pertwee icons, I'll have to go with Ainley for this. Because canon!Master/Doctor is just too much fun.

Date: 2008-07-02 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
This episode has also has the prop department going wild. This is the instrument the Doctor has build to track the Master down:

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Mind you, I still prefer Mind of Evil and The Sea Devils when it comes to canon Master/Doctor, but The Time Monster comes in third, no question about it. And yes, pity the Brig. He also has to listen to a "when we were messing up each other's experiments at school..." story. Jo, otoh, is used to the Doctor confiding about his evil ex and takes it with aplomb. Also, she has one of the best lines when she and the Doctor meet the Master again after escaping from his latest trap: "How about a 'curses, foiled again' ?"

*uses Three and Jo icon, which ends Pertwee era icons*

Date: 2008-07-02 09:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
Wow. That's.... wow.

I'm excited, now - I have the VHS of The Sea Devils at home, but we've been waiting to watch it until after the current series is over!

Sounds like Jo has quite a grasp on the Master's character by now. And a better sense of humor than I'd have credited her with from the one episode I've seen with her so far. Yay!

*has to go back to Daleks - alas, not enough old!Who icons that aren't Four, Five, or Romana!*

Date: 2008-07-03 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Oh, Jo is the only one of the companions who meets the Master often enough to get on a catty aquaintance level, conversationally, so to speak, and who really gets the Master/Doctor thing. In The Sea Devils she calls the Doctor on the Master!love (i.e. that he's been worried for the Master, not just about him, and that's why they're here), and the Doctor admits it, stating: "Well, we used to be friends... very good friends... infact, you might say we were - at school together." (BBC: using euphemisms well in the 70s.*veg*) Later Doctors, when asked about the Master, give the standard arch nemesis explantion; it's not until Ten (in reply to "who was he to you?", when says "a friend, at first") that we hear the "former friend" explanation given to a companion again.

Anyway, back to Jo - she's great in Sea Devils, Mind of Evil and Time Monster alike, proving a companion can absolutely hold her own in terms of audience attention while the Doctor/Master shenanigans are going on. You'll see.

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