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In which Alison has watched Dexter, but nobody has watched Breaking Bad.



Or else they'd know how to dissolve bodies chemically. See last re: my observation about Alison's and Donnie's relationship pre and post three eps ago, but with that retcon caveat, I am on board with them as suburban body disposers. (Not so much with Angie getting vilified somewhat for doing her job as a cop, but I'm clinging to pov, and of course from Alison's pov, she's a danger.) Also, I doubt that there are scuba divers at the Canadian coast - OR ARE THERE? - but never mind, Alison looking to Dexter as a what NOT to do template re: dead bodies cracked me up. (I would say she and Donnie should look to Walter White for guidance instead, but that is a loaded sentence if ever there was one, so better not.)

With Alison in the realm of comic relief, the rest of the episode was grim business. I was about to complain there was no reason why Rachel, in a skyscraper full of offices, would need to use Cosima's and conveniently leave the computer so Cosima can find something incriminating, but since it was a trap for Cosima to do just what she did, warn (and thereby distract) Sarah, okay. Rachel in her bitterness about her ordained infertility (with some intermingled jealousy because Marian is impressed by Sarah in general) kidnapping Kira as Leekie kidnapped her, essentially wishing Kira to undergo her own fate, is something that fits, though I doubt Marian (and whoever the other top hierarchy at the Dyad Institute are) would let Rachel keep Kira for herself (too valuable a biological resource). Also, Ethan Duncan (like last week very focused on not scatter brained anymore at all) has some leverage via the keys for the various sequences which he wisely hasn't delivered all at once, so I predict a scorchingly emotional father-daughter showdown. Possibly lethal for Ethan Duncan, which would made Rachel an outcast on the run because Dyad needs his knowledge more than they need her.

The story Johannsen the creepy cult leader tells the children in the nursery with an abrupt alternate happy ending is in fact the ending of Frankenstein the novel (Creature and Victor F. in the Antarctica, and no, they don't sit down for ice cream), so Rachel giving me a Frankenstein's Creature vibe in the last two episodes in her scenes with her fathers, both Leekie and Duncan, wasn't accidental.

Helena and Gracie teaming up I expected, as I did that Gracie carries Helena's child(ren) (though not that so does Helena - should have figured Johannsen would go for as many pregnancies as he could get), but Mark changing sides for love (and being shamed by Helena) I didn't. I suppose that means we won't see Gracie again, instead of her running off with Helena. Incidentally, as much as the burning Prolethians farm is a familiarly good image in this kind of situation, there's the problem of the complex being full of children, and I can't see Helena risking their lives after the show made a repeated point of showing her protective urges towards children, so are we to assume they somehow got evacuated first?

I didn't mention this in the main text last week, only in a comment, but given that Rachel doesn't know Dr. Leekie is really dead (as opposed to being on the run) and that Donnie killed him, her "died of a heart attack" cover story with distinct implication that she's responsible for his demise to both Delphine (to intimidate her) and to Marian (to impress her) is in fact Rachel covering for Leekie's supposed escape. I wonder whether that will play any role, though the Kira-napping engineers more than enough drama for the showdown.

Date: 2014-06-16 07:56 am (UTC)
lilacsigil: 12 Apostles rocks, text "Rock On" (12 Apostles)
From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
I was presuming that the kids don't live in the immediate barn-and-prison complex - the only people we've seen actually in that building are Gracie's parents, Gracie, Mark and Helena. There were lots of other buildings in the complex and I can't see Helena killing small children. (Also I just read that there was a scene of the kids escaping that was cut for time.)

Duncan really has got it together these last two episodes - I'm really starting to wonder who exactly burned down the original lab, as it doesn't seem to be Leekie's style and he's conveniently under the garage now!

Donnie's right about Angie, though - if she wants to investigate, there are legal processes she has to follow. Now, it happens to be true that there is something to investigate, but Angie has no authority to do that. She *isn't* doing her job, she's making one up.

Date: 2014-06-16 10:04 am (UTC)
lilacsigil: Sarah and Rachel from Orphan Black fighting (Orphan Black Sarah vs Rachel)
From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
Yes, it's entirely plausible that the Duncans and Leekie were on hostile terms and also possible that Duncan believes Leekie burned down the lab (unless he did it himself, of course). I also believe Leekie would have his colleagues killed. But I don't believe he wouldn't make back-ups of the research if he knew it was going to be destroyed!

Date: 2014-06-16 02:21 pm (UTC)
king_touchy: gold crown with jewels on white background (orphan_black)
From: [personal profile] king_touchy
Allison totally did watch Dexter and did not watch Breaking Bad. The first episode of Breaking Bad put her off, and Michael C. Hall is way hotter than Bryan Cranston. But she should have.

No, I'd rather Breaking Bad wasn't a TV show, but exists in the same universe as Orphan Black, because putting some Allison into Breaking Bad would be awesome.

Date: 2014-06-17 02:38 am (UTC)
ide_cyan: Dalbello peering into a screen (Default)
From: [personal profile] ide_cyan
Alison is kind of living the Breaking Bad / Malcolm in the Middle fusion that was imagined because Bryan Cranston starred in both (and was referenced in the gag alternate ending to BB). Wacky suburban family hijinks, with body disposal, drugs, and manslaughter. (Also, in Canada, there's healthcare.)

(Possibly with Vic as the Jesse stand-in?)

Date: 2014-06-17 04:08 am (UTC)
nenya_kanadka: thin elegant black cartoon cat (Orphan Black Cosima)
From: [personal profile] nenya_kanadka
About the Rachel pretending to be Sarah part--I can't actually pin down just when she made the switch. Sarah goes out to the car to talk to Delphine, and then we see her get out and come back into the building? But then the woman we cut to who's inside saying it's not safe, we have to get out of here, trying to take Kira away...is Rachel, right? So Rachel must have been waiting in the building and come out just in those few minutes while Sarah was talking to Delphine, and she manages to spirit Kira away before Sarah makes it up to give her warning to Mrs S?

I think I've got it, but if anyone has a clearer step-by-step with that I'd be grateful. :P

Loved, loved, loved the scenes with Gracie and Helena in the barn. I really hope Gracie got out. I see why they wouldn't want to bring her along to Sarah's with Helena (there are already too many characters to juggle in Sarah's part of the plot), but in another show that would have been cool. Loved Helena vs abusive parents, too. Though that whole situation was fucked. up. like whoa.

Possibly the first time I've cheered for Donnie. LOL.

Date: 2014-06-17 12:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] endeni
/In which Alison has watched Dexter, but nobody has watched Breaking Bad. Or else they'd know how to dissolve bodies chemically./ - LOL, that was my exact thought... :D
/so are we to assume they somehow got evacuated first?/ - Yes, good point.
/is in fact Rachel covering for Leekie's supposed escape/ - Oh, right, this makes sense! *nods*
Can't wait for next ep.! ;)

Date: 2014-06-29 09:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jesuswasbatman
I still seriously don't trust Ethan Duncan. His sudden switch from apparent dementia when Siobhan first found him to competence when he turns up at Dyad says some suspicious things about him, as far as I'm concerned.

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