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selenak: (Discovery)
Yuletide nominations are nearly upon us, and I think Star Trek: Discovery is still small enough to apply. (I tried to check as advised via the bookmark tools for AO3 and FFN, and according to the results, it is, but there’s always the possibility I did it wrong.) If that’s correct, I’ll both ask for it as a fandom and offer to write in it. Last year, all people wanted and wrote were Burnham/Georgiou stories, which is understandable since all the canon available at the point of nomination was the pilot, but this year, I hope for as many characters and relationships as possible to be nominated. Speaking of all things Star Trek, my intermittent rereading and rewatching still continues, which among other things results in these musings:

1.) Not in a review, but in a comment to one, I found one striking observation: Crossover, the first DS9 Mirrorverse episode (and arguably the only one to go for disturbing in addition to „let the cast have a fun camp romp“ (which is of course there in all Mirrorverse eps) ), „demonstrates that but for some changed circumstances, Kira could have been Dukat“. And I went: huh. That is… actually true. In as much as the Intendant is very much female Dukat, down to his „but why don’t you love me, I only want the best for you“ thing. (Not to mention that they share a job.) Now why didn’t I think of that when I wrote my Five things which never happened between Kira and Dukat?

2.) Also, the DS9 Mirrorverse eps taken together with the TOS, Enterprise and Discovery Mirrorverse eps indeed provide one with a model of history in which yesterday’s oppressor becomes today’s oppressed (i.e. TOS era fascist Terrans become DS9 era brave rebel Terrans, TOS era downtrodden brave rebels (i.e. all other species) become, at least in the case of Bajorans, Klingons and Cardassians, DS9 era’s fascist Alliance), and the one thing constant is that power corrupts everyone and every struggle will result in a new tyranny, with only the tyrants changing. Which is indeed the opposite world view the main ST universe holds, but there are times…

3.) More on canon alternative universes: TNG’s Yesterday’s Enterprise remains eminently watchable, not least because every time I do, I focus on other aspects. This time around, it occurred to me that several of the Disco writers must have imprinted on that episode, not just for the obvious reason (a timeline in which the Klingons and the Federation are at war, a war which the Federation is losing), but for the conclusion. Which is spoilery for both the episode and Star Trek: Discovery’s finale and the opposite of grimdark in what it says not just about human nature. )

4.) Sins of the Father and Reunion still puts what Disco’s Klingon storyline to shame, though. These episodes give us our first (screen canon) look at Klingon politics and the Klingon empire from the inside, provide us with distinctively different from each other Klingon characters (K’empec, Khalest, Kurn and Duras in Sins of the Father, Duras, Gowron, K’eyhlar and K’empec in Reunion) in addition to the series‘ Klingon regular, Worf, and set up a major theme for said regular character’s storyline throughout not one but two shows (Worf’s idea of how to be a Klingon, which is modelled on an ideal he hasn’t experienced himself, versus the realpolitics reality with its schemes and intrigues and compromises). Of course, the fact that the TNG actors don’t have their entire faces covered in latex and can speak most of their lines in English helps, but still: Discovery only managed two memorable Klingon characters in an entire season (never mind an episode), with the rest undistinguishable bad guys.
selenak: (rootbeer)
So, about those reviews I've been browsing through.

Do by and large not like, and thus do not link: Zach at the AV Club, who seems to regard the very existence of Deanna Troi (and Guinan, and to a lesser degree Beverly Crusher) as a personal offense to his Star Trek enjoyment. And I don't mean criticism like "Troi and Crusher being given caretaker jobs - Counselor and Doctor respectively - reflects conventional gender thinking", I mean endless diatribes about how he hates her voice, how useless she is, how bland Beverly is, how Guinan is nothing but mystical jumbo etc. etc. etc. Ugh. The only female characters he seems to like are the warrior women types like Tasha Yar and Ro Laren.

Aside: just like "Wesley saves the ship all the time" is one of those "everyone knows..." things not actually validated by canon, "Troi does nothing but say obvious things like 'I sense he's upset" and show cleavage" is rubbish as well. Again, not that you can't complain about, say, it taking six seasons until Deanna gets a standard uniform, or the sheer number of times she's goes through metaphorical rape by possession. (Cally on Blake 7 can relate, I'm sure. It's not that possession plots aren't done to male telepaths at all - a very recent Marvel example on tv comes to mind - , but if you're a female telepath or in Troi's case empath on a genre show or movie you can bet it will happen to you, and more than once.) But TNG might surprise you in terms of Bechdel Test passing when it comes to Deanna Troi. When in the episode The Emissary K'eyhlar comes on board, she and Deanna immediately hit it off. You know what they don't talk about? K'eyhlar's blatantly obvious UST with Worf, or Worf at all. You know what they do talk about? Being half human, half Klingon (K'eyhlar) and Betazoid (Troi) respectively, and how being from two different cultures affects them. When Deanna temporarily loses her empathic abilities in The Loss, you know whom she talks about re: her feelings? Riker. With whom does she talk about re: her job? Guinan. And speaking of her job: one thing that I've always thought was good world building was that we do get to see Troi active in it in episodes which are about other characters altogether, in snippets, not just in episodes where it's a main plot point. (For example, her conversation with Picard early in Family, or at the very end of Chains of Command II.)

Do like, with caveats: Keith de Candido, who did complete rewatchs for TNG,DS9 and TOS. (No Voyager or Enterprise.) Has a "fond, but not uncritically so" attitude towards most Trek that makes the reviews usually interesting and worth reading. And of course he has his favourites (Worf and Kira in their respective shows), but then, we all do.

Do like, also with caveats: Darren at TheMOvieBlog, who writes incredibly detailed reviews with a lot of background info drawn from interviews and books. He did all of DS9 (his clear favourite), TNG until the start of s4, Voyager completely until and including s4 and then intermittendly, and TOS completely. What I find most appealing is that his negative reviews manage to critisize without devolving into bashing (i.e. attacks on how that actor/character sucks and should have been killed etc.), and, as mentioned, that the reviews offer a lot of backstory. Take this post on the Voyager episode SURVIVAL INSTINCTS, which also mentions to be an essay on Ron Moore's entire history on the Stark Trek franchise. Incidentally, the quotes re: his short and disastrous time on Voyager and break-up with long time writing partner Brannon Braga briefly made me wonder about Moore & Braga as the Lennon & McCartney of Star Trek, co-starring Rick Berman as Allen Klein, because, quoth Braga:

Ron came aboard as a writer and – God, I have a lot of regrets – he came aboard wanting the show to do all sorts of things. He wanted the show to have continuity. When the ship got fucked up, he wanted it to stay fucked up. For characters to have lasting consequences. He was really into that. He wanted to eradicate the so-called reset button, and that’s not something the studio was interested in, because this thing was a big seller in syndication. It wasn’t until season three of Enterprise that we were allowed to do serialisation, and that was only because the show needed some kind of boost to it, because it was flat. I made a big mistake by not supporting Ron in that decision or supporting Ron in general when he came aboard the show. That was a dark chapter for me and Ron and Rick. It was a bad scene.

Quoth Moore: I kept pushing, and out of that dynamic Brannon stopped wanting to have me in meetings and stopped wanting me to be around, and then the whole thing blew up once I found out that that they literally were having meetings where I wasn’t around and they were developing stories that I wasn’t part of, and the staff had been told not to tell me these things. I walked into Rick’s office and said, “I want out.” He was shocked and Brannon was shocked, and Brannon and I had it out. It was a hard, very emotional and painful scene. Brannon said, “You’re right. I’m sorry. I don’t know why it’s been like that, but I’d really like you to stay.” But I was just done.

Quoth Bryan Fuller, bringing in a new angle: Rick would taunt Brannon, saying things like, “I should have hired Ron to run Voyager instead of you.” So of course Brannon is going to be insecure and vulnerable. Brannon is a very complicated guy, but an amazing storyteller and a good guy ultimately. Both Ron and Brannon are good guys. But when you’re in a situation where you are feeling vulnerable and insecure and you’re having somebody essentially say I wish you were more like that guy, you’re going to resent that guy. And when that guy is told, “I wish Brannon was more like you,” then you’re going to feel like you should come in and you should be in a position where you’re exerting a certain sense of control over the story.

I had heard about the Braga/Moore breakup before, but not Berman trying to play the two out against each other. Speaking of Bryan Fuller, though, the article also includes his farewell present to Ron Moore, which turns out to have been something perfect for the Godfather of Klingon tales:

My last day was Thursday, July 1 and I spent most of it walking around the lot, saying good-bye to various members of the cast and crew, some of whom I’d worked with for a decade. It was a melancholy sort of task and I was eager to be done with it and get outta there. So when Bryan pulled me aside and said that my birthday gift had come in, my first reaction was to put him off for another day, but then I relented and he walked into my office with it hidden behind his back.

It was a bat’leth. A genuine, metal, leather-handled, sharp as all hell, bat’leth. Made by our prop department, which is as close as you can get to getting one from Kronos itself. I was touched and I laughed, but it wasn’t until I was on my way home that I realized what Bryan had really given me: an ending to my own Star Trek story. You see, ten years ago I walked onto the Paramount lot for the first time with a script under my arm and last week I walked off with a bat’leth. I left carrying my sword. There’s a certain poetry to that and it went a long way toward making me feel as if I’d left with my head high and my “honor” intact. Thank you, Bryan.


In conclusion: Star Trek writers = geeks to the end. These days, when Moore is mainly associated with BSG (both in the positive and negative sense) and Fuller with Hannibal, it's a neat reminder to where they came from. Qua'pla, fellows! Anyway, background stuff like this is why I do enjoy reading Darren's reviews the most, even if I don't get how you can write about Second Skin without doing an extensive compare and contrast to Face of the Enemy, but hey, nobody is perfect...
selenak: (Discovery)
Leafing through other people’s Star Trek reviews and –thoughts reminds me of something which is by no means an original observation of mine: one key difference between Star Trek: TNG and Star Trek: DS9 on the one hand and every iteration of Star Trek thereafter until Discovery on the other – and even Disco is an arguable case due to its setting – is that the former two are neither built on nostalgia for the franchise nor succcumbing to it as the story goes on. On the contrary, both are at pains to carve out their own identity and keeping a distance from their immediate predecessor. (This despite the fact that a lot of writers who cut their writerly teeth on TNG went on to write for DS9, and of course anyone who did start at TNG was a TOS fan first.)

Given the big success that TNG eventually became, it’s easy to forget, but not only was at first a very vocal part of fandom beating the „nothing not featuring Kirk-Spock-McCoy can be Star Trek, forever and ever“ drum when it started, but there people involved in the production, from Gene Roddenberry downwards, consciously tried to make the new Trek show as different as possible while still staying within the same universe. There was a „no Vulcans!“ mandate at first (and as late as the season 3 episode Sarek, there was an endless to and thro as to whether or not Spock should be mentioned by name in said episode where his father is a main character), which given the importance of Vulcans in TOS was really pointed. (Instead, there was a Klingon on the bridge, and developing the Klingons from one dimensional bad guys into allies with their own culture and politics was going to become one of TNG’s signature elements.) There was, of course, the 24th century setting which meant that other than Vulcans, TOS characters would be either really ancient (see: McCoy cameo in the pilot) or dead, and the main characters and their dynamics could not be paralleled to the TOS crew. It’s noticable that the one time TNG did try to downright copy a TOS dynamic, it turned out to be a very misjudged decision hastily abandoned after one season. (Making season 2’s Doctor Pulaski and Data into bickering partners a la Bones and Spock. The big difference here was of course that Spock always gave as good as he got, whereas Data, especially early in the show, had a naive, almost childlike nature, so Pulaski taking verbal shots at him didn’t come across as sparring, but as bullying.) Now, later on, once TNG had become a critical and commercial success in its own right, you did get TOS homages and mini crossovers (other than the earlier mentioned Sarek and Sarak, Scotty in Relics, and less successfully Spock in Unification I & II). But these happened on TNG terms, and you never had the impression the show wanted to be TOS. It didn’t have to be.

Meanwhile, DS9, between its stationary setting, letting Sisko punch Q with the words „I’m not Picard!“ in season 1, blowing up Galaxy class starships in effigy and letting O’Brien (who’d served on the Enterprise from season 1 – 5) declare Sisko the „best Captain“ he’d served under, had „We’re not TNG, we don’t want to BE TNG, we want to be something different!“ all but tattoed on ist collective forehead. (Mind you, drafting successful TNG character Worf in s4 to boost the ratings, which necessitated keeping the Dominion storyline on hold for an entire season in favour of a Klingon war storyline to justify Worf’s presence was not quite in that spirit, but to the show’s credit, Worf’s addition to the ensemble was done in a way that was quite exemplary: none of the other characters were suddenly lacking screen time or character developement because of him.) By and large, the kind of stories that DS9 told were ones that were depending on its specific DS9-ness and could not have been done on the Enterprise-D. The writer used the differences between the shows very creatively. There were TOS homages (far more than nods to TNG), not just the big anniversary episode Trials and Tribble-Ations, but never to the point where you had the impression the show wanted to be TOS, either.

And then we get to Voyager. At which point there were external factors interfering, true, from the ratings (ever since the end of TNG, there had been a steadfast drop) to some of the writers now being employed to write Star Trek for almost a decade, and it showed, to difficulties between producrs, writers and actors. Crucially, Voyager wasn’t the only game in town the way TNG had been; there were now several popular new non-Trek sci fi shows on tv, and they felt fresh. Now the difference having not two but three female regulars all the time, one of them the captain with whom everyone interacts made was new. But still: I’d say Voyager was when nostalgia for its own past became more and more of a factor for the Star Trek franchise. Indications: the very point of the Delta Quadrant setting of the show was supposed to be the chance to explore new aliens, to put the Voyager crew in utterly unfamiliar surroundings. While we did get new aliens, we also got Ferengi and Romulans. We got the Borg, aka TNG’s most iconic villains, not just via Seven of Nine but as an ongoing feature. We got a series of stealth TNG crossovers featuring Reginald Barclay and Deanna Troi. (Both of whom I’m very fond of, and I liked the episodes in question. But in retrospect, they also paved the way for the decision to make Star Trek: Enterprise‘s finale into a TNG episode reducing the actual Enterprise characters to holodock figures.) It’s not that Voyager didn’t try to come up with its own thing but that it lost confidence when its own thing wasn’t rewarded by big ratings, and then it tried the nostalgia appeal to make up for this. Which didn’t work. See also above: competing new shows.

Voyager was to be the last Star Trek set in the 24th century until now (if the Picard-featuring show actually happens). That’s how obsessed the franchise became with looking back and believing nostalgia to be its tool for survival. Just think about that. Post Voyager, we got Enterprise which is set pre-TOS. And then, years later, the reboot movies went in nostalgia overdrive by going for a TOS retelling. (And one that relied on general osmosis and pop culture image more than on the actual show; as has been pointed out by many a Trekker, Reboot Kirk’s characterisation in his first movie as a young rebel hitting on every female with a pulse corresponds to the idea of Kirk in pop culture, and not so much to the character who in Where No One Has Gone Before is described by old class mate Gary Mitchell as someone up to his ears in books at the academy and in need of a wing man in order to get a date at all.) Again, there was the sense that the production team didn’t trust the audience to love a version of Star Trek if it wasn’t nostalgic, and primarily referring back to what had been loved before. (See also Spock Prime dumping all his Kirk memories into Reboot Kirk in order to enforce a Kirk/Spock friendship in the new ‚verse, to say nothing of Cumberbatch!Khan who could have worked as a new villain Harrison if the producers hadn’t been obsessed with going back to the Wrath of Khan well.)

Purely in terms of the story it tells in its first season, there is actually no reason why Star Trek: Discovery needs to take place in the 23rd instead of the 24th century. In fact, some of its key element like the spore drive might have worked better in a 24th century setting where the audience would not know whether this wasn’t going to be the new propulsion system of the future. Michael’s atoner arc needed her to make a fatal decision in the pilot which would contribute to a war situation, but there was no need to make this a war with the Klingons. If you want to avoid introducing a new alien opponent in the first season: there’s still the untold story oft he Federation/Cardassian war whose existence was declared in TNG’s fifth season. Not to mention that the godawful Nemesis and the first Reboot movie backstory between them left the Romulans in a dreadful state, and empires in dissarray could lead to war situations as well. Making Michael Sarek’s and Amanda’s ward ties her to some of the franchise’s most iconic characters, but, having watched our leading actress in the first season: the actress and the writing are good enough that this wasn’t necessary. Michael could have been raised by two completely new characters from different people, and she’d have been just as compelling. Again: setting Discovery about ten years pre TOS is yet another expression of the fear a not nostalgic Star Trek tale will not be loved by its audience. And that’s a pity, because in most other regards, Discovery truly is innovative, and the most original Trek since DS9.
selenak: (Skyisthelimit by Craterdweller)
Being in a Star Trek mood these last weeks also ends you checking up on people's rewatches, reviews and the like. And good lord, but much as I find I still adore the characters, I'm now also recalling what that a vocal part of ST fandom was and is easily as toxic as current day fandoms. The Wesley hate. Ugh. You'd think the kid personally assassinated a great many pet dogs. BTW, I maintain that "Wesley is such a Gary Stu and saves the Enterprise all the time, no wonder people hated him" is one of these "everyone knows..." things where people feed more on fannish osmosis and bashings than actual canon. Going by summaries from episodes since I can't rewatch them all, Wesley saved the day a total of six times, in seven seasons. Even if you only count season 1 - 4 since he then stopped being a regular character, and was only a recurring guest star thereafter, that's still nowhere near "always" dimensions. What's more, he's by no means universally adored by all the characters, or, well, any of them. He's liked, not least because the TNG bunch are an ensemble there the characters do like each other, but no one's best friend or idol or special protegé. (Well, the Traveler's, but the Traveler shows up a total of two times, once in the first and once in the last season.) Nor does he render beloved characters superflous by his existence, which is another Sue/Stu criteria. Nor is Wil Wheaton bad in the role. Now don't get me wrong, I think both Jake and Nog are better examples of how to write teenagers in a ST show, and I've been known to dislike some teenage sidekicks in my time. (See also: Richie in Highlander.) Sometimes, it just happens. But I'm still baffled as to the sheer dimensions of the unrelenting Wes hate. (And a mulish part of me wishes that Wil Wheaton gets an appearance in the new Picard series just because of that. Also because I happen to like Wesley.)

On to more joyful aspects of fandom, to wit, fanfic recs:

TNG/Voyager crossovers:

Of Borg: in which Seven of Nine meets Jean-Luc Picard. Short and to the point. There are surprisingly few stories using this premise, at least at the AO3, given the obvious shared element here.

There lies the port: and here's Kathryn Janeway meeting Picard on her lonesome. Due to the Janeway cameo in Insurrection (I think? Or maybe the awful Nemesis, I never watched that more than once), it's canon that the two know each other and are on a first name basis, so Janeway, post-Voyager's return, trying to figure herself out might very well do so with the help of an old friend.
selenak: (Winn - nostalgia)
I don’t have the time to marathon the entirety of TNG, but individual episodes are another matter, and the other day I watched Ensign Ro, the season 5 episode featuring the Ur- Bajoran, Ro Laren, played by Michelle Forbes. (Who’d been in TNG before in a smaller supporting role in which she nonetheless impressed the producers enough to write a recurring character for her; she’d go on to be one of the ST actors Ron Moore wrote a part in BSG for, Admiral Cain, no less.)

I hadn’t seen the episode in question for many years, and this time around it spawned both DS9 and Discovery related thoughts. DS9 first: this episode introduced the Bajorans along with Ro, and there is definitely the usual early installment weirdness (i.e. stuff that later canon either retconned or ignored, which happens more often than not with introduction eps of both characters and people). That there’s an additional ridge on the face is the most minor element; then there’s the way Ro’s people are referred to as both „the Bajora“ and „the Bajorans“, with „Bajora“ as an alternative name dropped ever after. Ro wears her earring on the „wrong“ ear, which the last season of DS9 declared to be the sign of pagh wraith followers. I hear that the novels took their cue from Ro’s declaration to Picard in this episode that while honoring her people’s culture she doesn’t necessarily share their beliefs, i.e. wearing the earring on the other ear is also a declaration of atheism? Since I’m always on the look out for non-evil Prophet deniers, I’m all for it.

The biggest difference to what DS9 later established, though, may be what this introduction episode says about how the Cardassian occupation went down. (Also about its extent; this episode names a span of 40 years, whereas DS9 later was prone to name it as 60 years. Since the first season of DS9 ran concurrently with the sixth season of TNG, and the Cardassians have just withdrawn from Bajor in the pilot episode of DS9, that’s a considerable gap.) Because Ensign Ro talks about the Bajorans as a diaspora people who live in refugee camps all over the galaxy „kicked off their own planet“ by the Cardassians. Meanwhile, DS9 very early on still mentions refugee camps (but rarely) until even the mentioning is dropped for good, but you definitely get the impression that most of the Bajorans remained on Bajor under Cardassian rule, and that the Cardassians were more interested in exploiting them as slave labourers than in driving them away.

This, in turn, made me wonder whether DS9 would have been a very different show if Michelle Forbes hadn’t turned down the chance to play Ro again as a regular there, which resulted in the creation of Kira Nerys. Now don’t get me wrong: I wouldn’t exchange the DS9 we got for anything, Kira is one of the most compelling Trek characters ever, and two interesting female Bajorans with issues are better than one, so I’m glad she did. But Ro Laren’s backstory was so significantly different from what Kira’s became that I can’t see Ro ending up playing basically the same role. For starters, while both Kira and Ro had a traumatic childhood thanks to the Cardassians, Ro then ended up as a refugee, which she hated, and it didn’t result in her joining the resistance, it resulted in her joining Starfleet. „They (the Bajorans) are defeated – I’ll never be“ is not a line you can imagine Kira saying. Even after leaving Starfleet in TNG’s last but one episode, Ro doesn’t go back to a now liberated Bajor, she joins the Maquis instead. Mind you, presumably if Michelle Forbes had accepted the TNG to DS9 transfer, this would not have happened as she’d left earlier, but still, I think it’s safe to say that Ro has issues about being Bajoran, or at the very least mixed feelings about it, and that these feelings are connected not just to those childhood years during the occupation (where she had to witness her father being tortured to death by Cardassians) but also to her years as a homeless refugee and the sense of powerlessness, disconnection and unwantedness. Which, again, is very different from Kira’s years as a resistance-fighter-slash-terrorist, in a horrible situation, yes, but always part of a community and with a sense of purpose (the liberation of Bajor from Cardassian rule) driving her.

Conversely, Kira going from original distrust of all things Starfleet to not just accepting Sisko but venerating him as the Emissary is connected to the great importance her faith has for her. Whereas Ro was Starfleet, left not because she distrusted their goals but because she came to disagree on the policy vis a vis the Cardassians. If the events of Preemptive Strike would not have happened in that hypothetical show where Ro instead of Kira ends up as Sisko’s first officer from the pilot onwards, she’d have never left at all and just been transfered, presumably being acceptable to the provisional Bajoran government due to being Bajoran. My guess is that the early friction between her and Sisko might have hailed from the fact that Ro, having served on the Enterprise with Picard basically as her sponsor, could either inherited Sisko’s Picard issues or conversely could have had issues with Sisko about his attitude towards Picard, had she witnessed it in the pilot.

Anyway, while some of the Kira-centric episodes like Duet would also have worked with Ro as a main character, others – like anything featuring Kai Winn – probably would not without massive rewriting. And thematically, DS9 might have instead of exploring the „our resistance fighters are your terrorists“ trope in its pre 9/11 world the way it did via Kira focused on refugee-returning-to-an-utterly-changed-home issues via Ro – both worth exploring, but it’s definitely not the same story.

On to Discovery: back when Disco’s third episode was shown, it did occur to me, see posted reviews, that Captain Lorca recruiting Michael straight from prison had distinct parallels to Janeway doing the same with Tom Paris in the Voyager pilot. What I hadn’t remembered then is that this is also similar to Ro’s introduction, since Ro, too, is drafted from a prison sentence (for disobeying orders which resulted in the deaths of crewmates) on to the Enterprise, though at first not by Picard but the unhinged Admiral of the week. Mind you, while Riker is a jerk to Ro upon her arrival (and in a hypocritical way, since he never asked Worf to take off his Klingon sash) re: her earring, no one else is; it’s Ro who turns down Troi’s and Crusher’s friendly overture at Ten Forward, as opposed to all guests starring at her with hostility. (And then Guinan in a very Guinan move just invites herself to Ro’s table and the scenish parallels end all together.) But I guess that’s the difference between a Picard- and a Lorca-run ship.

Still, I think I finally have the angle of how to write a Picard pov on having inherited some Michael memories via Sarek. Because Ro would remind him! Not that I currently can write anything, but you know, in principle.

Lastly, have a Ro-centric rather recent fanfiction which describes her reactions during and after Chain of Command:

Sea of Nonbelievers

Vid Links

Aug. 15th, 2018 12:02 pm
selenak: (River Song by Famira)
Many of the vividcon vids have been posted, which is great for this Overseas fan who could never attend one. I've only begun to check them out, but here are three:

X-Men:

Bodies: covering all the eras of the X-Men movies, this is a wonderful love declaration to mutants.

Doctor Who:

Cups(When I’m Gone): speaking of love declarations, this is one to the one and only River Song.

Star Trek: The Next Generation:

Pompeji: Jean-Luc Picard, navigating alternate realities and saving galaxy, with the occasional going through hell. My Captain!
selenak: (Vulcan)
What about The Inner Light was a multi-voiced cry after not finding it on my list of favourite Picard-centric episodes. Not surprisingly, given it frequently ends up on a lot of people’s Best Of Trek episodes, and Patrick Stewart is indeed excellent in it.

Now, I like The Inner Light. I’m a sucker for quiet character episodes, and I do like the basic concept which is spoilery. Discusions of this and what does stop me going from like to love, along with ethical problems and less serious speculation on what other space captains would have done ensue, containing spoilers for Discovery )
selenak: (Not from Nottingham by Calapine)
Given the news about a new Star Trek series featuring my favourite Captain, it occured to me it might be helpful to offer a select list of episodes to newbies who don‘t have the time to marathon all seven seasons of TNG yet are neutral, curious or even ready to be convinced that more Patrick Stewart as Jean-Luc Picard is a good thing.

Now, what follows is by no means a Best of Star Trek: The Next Generation list, or even a list of personal favourites; TNG was Trek‘s first ensemble show (TOS being centred on the Big Three), and I have favourite episodes in which Picard plays a small or no role. But it is a list of episodes featuring Picard prominently that I love rewatching, some serious drama, some entertaining fluff; Patrick Stewart is awesome in all of them. A lot of them also have other compelling reasons for the potential genre interested newbie to watch them, which I shall add.

So, in chronological broadcast order, my personal „Jiving with Jean-Luc“ marathon friendly hit list:

Season 2, episode 9: The Measure of a Man. This one makes the ST anals for being an unsolicited script written by a fan anyway - by writer Melinda Snodgrass, who went on to flourish in the business. It‘s also a classic Trek morality tale: is Data the android, who‘s been a member of the crew from the pilot onwards, a sentient being or simply sophisticated tech on legs and thus Starfleet property? Basically, ST does a court room drama, with Picard as Data‘s advocate. Now, a lesser script would have let either the judge (Philippa Louvois, who has backstory with Picard), or the Starfleet guy who caused the entire trail, Bruce Maddox, be villains and at some point revealed to act from lower motives, but no such thing happens, and what‘s more, Maddox doesn‘t represent the prosecution, another sympathetic regular, First Officer Riker does. To me, the key scene isn‘t so much Picard‘s concluding argument, though that‘s excellent, but the earlier conversation he has with Guinan (Whoopi Goldberg), in which he realises that the actual issue here is: slavery, plain and simple.

Season 2, episode 16: Q Who.: watchable and important for so many reasons, among which the fact that it‘s the first decent Q (near omnipotent being with fondness for one liners and tests, showed up twice before in sadly none too good eps) episode is but one. (Though that definitely is one reason for me: John de Lancie and Patrick Stewart have scorching chemistry here. No wonder this became one of my earliest slash ´ships before I even knew the term existed.) It introduces the Borg (and you can see it once why they impressed the hell out of fans and became villains for the next few decades, long after the creepiness factor displayed here vanished by overuse), and it puts Picard in a position TOS never put Kirk in: where he can‘t win the day by outthinking or outfighting his opponents, and has to save his crew by swallowing his pride and asking an antagonist for help. Which is precisely why I warmed up to Picard over Kirk around that time. Also noteworthy: bits of backstory for Guinan, including a long term feud with Q.

Season 3, episode 19: Captain's Holiday: now this is an entertaining fluff episode, in which, as the title indicates, Picard is made to take a break by his crew. Which he does on the holiday planet Risa, essentially a big galactic Club Med, where he runs into female con artist and rogue archaelogist Vash and has a fun adventure. Now, I‘m the first to admit this isn‘t one of ST‘s great episodes. Why I love it anyway and put it on the list: Patrick Stewart is arguably the only male ST actor to look actually good in 24th century civilian gear, especially one that‘s as revealing as this holiday get up, and he had a great body to be displayed. (More of this in a far more serious episode.) PIcard trying to read a book and being bothered by a stream of other vacationers who assume no one can seriously want to read on holidays, and getting increasingly disgruntled by this, is one of those „Jean-Luc, I hear you, I so had the same experience!“ moments for me. And his holiday romance with bad girl Vash is an entertaining „usually rules-bound guy/ female criminal“ combination which don‘t end angstily on the guy‘s part or with the woman converted to a rules-bound life. Oh, and lastly: the episode was written by Ira Behr, who‘d later become one of the key writers on ST: DS9.

Season 3, episode 24: Sarek. Written by none other than Peter S. Beagle, the very one we owe The Last Unicorn to, this episode featured, as the title indicates, Spock‘s father Sarek, played by the original actor Mark Lenard, who gives his last but one performance in the role, and as with Shakspeare and The Tempest, it should have been his farewell performance because it‘s that kind of story and episode. No offense to either Ben Cross, who plays Sarek in the ST Reboot movies, or James Frain, who plays him on Star Trek: Discovery, but this kind of thing is why Original Sarek is The Best Sarek for me. Speaking of Discovery, this episode could be a good introduction for you if you want to know more about the man who raised Michael and about Vulcan psychology and emotions. Why this episode is on a Picard list: it‘s the very one where Patrick Stewart‘s performance made me sit up and realise how truly great an actor he is. He was good before, but it‘s an acting tour de force as Picard, who for plot reasons has to mind meld with Sarek, channels all of Sarek‘s repressed emotions, regrets and memories in addition to his own repressed emotions. (Picard being the stoic type most of the time, which is what Sarek finds appealing about him.) Now Michael Burnham wasn‘t invented yet when this episode was broadcast, obviously, but given her own backstory with Sarek, this means Jean-Luc has a bit of Michael in his head from this point onwards.

Season 3, episode 26: Best of Both Worlds I: the third season finale and famously the cliffhanger episode seen as TNG‘s graduation in fandom; from this point onwards, the „TNG is Trek‘s embarrassing younger brother mentality was not the dominant one any longer, and it became the standard bearer, despite TOS movies being still a thing at this point. It‘s actually more Riker than Picard centric, but essential to understanding the next two eps, which is why it‘s here. Also, it‘s a great episode by itself, with the guest star, Commander Shelby, always making me wish she‘d come back later (yes, I know she‘s in the New Frontier novels, but that‘s not the same).  It‘s basically impossible not to be spoiled for the big cliffhanger scene these days, or to feel the same visceral impact it had during the original broadcast. (Think of watching the „Luke, I am your father“ scene in Star Wars for the first time.) But it‘s still a doozie. (And Patrick Stewart sells it with a few lines.)

Season 4.1. Best of Both Worlds II and 4.2.  Family: 4.1. is the solution to the previous cliffhanger, provides another Star Trek Captain from the next show, DS9, with a key trauma (Benjamin Sisko loses his wife in one of the battles here, which isn‘t a spoiler because it happens right at the start of the DS9 pilot), and Picard with an even bigger one. It‘s Family which makes that clear, though. Until this time, tragedies happening to Star Trek leads in one episode left no mark in the next; when Kirk loses Edith Keeler, he‘s fine and dandy in the subsequent episodes, etc. And the rest of genre tv (what there was at that point) usually followed suit. And then Family changed this, by showing us Picard in the aftermath of the two parter, trying to recover (though at first he denies he needs to) by visiting his brother‘s family back in France. It‘s a quiet character episode which thus was revolutionary in its day; now, this is of course not the case anymore, but it‘s still a a fine episode, and another great performance by Patrick Stewart as the cracks in Picard‘s demeanour become ever more visible until the catharthic scene with brother Robert where the horror of what has happened finally is faced. (Incidentally, the episode was written by Ron Moore, and if there‘s one thing I regret about it it‘s that he tried to copy the effect by letting Eddie Olmos do the crying and raging while getting drunk thing far too often in BSG‘s season 4. Not the same thing, Ron.)

Lastly: in a subplot, we meet Worf‘s human adoptive parents, Sergej and Helena Roshenko, who are the most endearing Russians in Trek since Pavel Chekov. Love them.

Season 4, episode 20 QPid:  another Ira Behr comedy tale of the entertaining fluff category. You can keep all Robin Hood movies in the last three decades, this is my favourite outing. Q‘s idea of doing something nice for Picard involves sticking him and Vash (the rogue archaelogist Picard had had his holiday fling with) in a Robin Hood scenario. Vash‘s idea of being Maid Marian, however, isn‘t being rescued by Robin but marry Sir Guy of Gisborne instead, Worf, as he protests, is not a Merry Man, and Jean-Luc Picard is not from Nottingham. But a great fencer anyway (cue Patrick Stewart‘s stage training being put to good use). It‘s great swashbuckling fun, the cast has a blast in traditional Robin Hood costumes, and if you ship Picard/Q, you get treated to such statements as „If I‘d known sooner, Jean-Luc, I‘d have shown up as a woman“ by Q (re: Vash and how she affects Picard), and PIcard essentially admitting Q and Vash are cut from the same cloth. Beverly Crusher having breakfast with Vash and showing her the ship instead of displaying jealousy isn‘t half bad, either, going against sexist expectations very much the norm in tv back then.

Season 4, episode 21: The Drumhead. Originally intended as a budget saving bottle show (it takes entirely place on the Enterprise), this turned out to become another morality tale/ court trial episode in the spirit of Measure of a Man. Also, possibly and sadly, with contemporary relevance it didn‘t have at first broadcast, when most people watching were reminded of MacCarthyism, not their present. An investigation into an actual terrorist attack act of sabotage on board the Enterprise increasingly turns into a climate of persecution. When a crew member who has Romulan ancestry he didn‘t disclose before is outed and suspected of being a spy, it‘s Picard for the defense again, and a speech I had occasion to rewatch from the Bush years onwards. Several elements which elevate the episode from good to great (imo, as always): there was an act of sabotage at the start, it wasn‘t invented, which gives Picard stating there are some lines in terms of civil rights you don‘t cross more weight than if there wasn‘t actual reason for concern; the „safety first, to hell with civil rights!“ party isn‘t just represented by guest star Jean Simmons, but for a time counts series regular Worf among them, and this is important, because again, it means Picard‘s later observation that no one is immune from temptation to give into this mentality is far more founded than if it had been only the usual „outsider Starfleet official makes trouble for our good crew“ cliché; and Picard (and the audience) doesn‘t really know whether Simon, the crew member with a Roman granddad, is guilty or innocent in general, which would be the case of the crew member had been a TNG regular. He makes his stand on rights regardless of this calming knowledge.

(Trivia: the episode was written by Jeri Taylor, who would go on to become a headwriter in ST: Voyager, and directed by Jonathan Frakes, aka Riker, who started a second career as director on TNG and remains busy in this capacity to this day; he directed several Discovery episodes last season.)

Season 5, episode 02: Darmok: Possibly the most TNG episode of TNG. Our heroes have to struggle through first contact with a species whose language defies the universal translator. Picard ends up on the planet with the other Captain and at first thinks this is a ritual challenge sort of situation, but it‘s no such thing. This episode is a hymn to stories, myths, metaphors and avoiding fights via communication, no matter how difficult. (Picard being a well read geek comes in very handy for him here.) Also, Patrick Stewart gets to narrate the Sumerian myth of Gilgamesh. And fandom gains a few neat phrases. Shaka, when the walls fell. Temba, his arms wide open. Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra!

Season 6, episodes 10 and 11: Chain of Command I and II: A two parter with a premise that doesn‘t bear much thinking about (there‘s no way Picard and Crusher, of all the people, are the people most qualified for a Star Trek spy mission), but the results are worth it. The non-Picard related reason why this two parter is memorable is that while the Captain who temporarily steps in for Picard, commanding the Enterprise, Jellico, is a jerk, he‘s not an incompetent jerk, and the way his storyline goes is a direct contrast to all the TOS and onwards episodes which go like this: Starfleet, for whatever reason, sends higher ranking officer to relieve Kirk of command. (Or they don‘t send him for that purpose, but he takes it anyway.) Inevitably, alternate commander screws up and fails at commanding the Enterprise, and Kirk steps in to save the day. It got to the point where you had to wonder whether the sole competent Starfleet officers were the ones serving under Kirk‘s command. But this story goes differently. Jellico pretty much alienates the entire crew with his manners, but since they as well as he are competent professionals, they do their job anyway, and the day is saved by mutual effort. However, this isn‘t the reason why this two parter is on my rec list.

No, it‘s all about the torture and the mindgames, all those scenes between Picard and his Cardassian interrogator, played by David Warner. Patrick Stewart being a member of Amnesty International, he took advice on the torture scenes, while the script very blatantly took their inspiration from George Orwell‘s 1984, down to „how many fingers, Winston lights, Picard?“ The result could not be further from the cliché of yore (and sadly also of many a movie and show in the present day) where good guys manfully resist torture while villains fold as soon as you let them dangle over a building, or break their fingers, depending on the brutality level. It‘s intensely played and does not need gore to be brutal. Now, at one point shortly before the end I thought they were chickening out of the ultimate consequence of torture and going back to the „unbroken hero“ cliché after all, but then came Picard‘s post rescue scene with Deanna Troi, which completet the 1984 homage after all, and brings the story to its right end.

(Lighthearted trivia: at a convention I attended, Jonathan Frakes told the story of how when they filmed this the producers originally wanted to use a body double for the scenes where PIcard hangs naked from a ceiling, whereupon Patrick Stewart indignantly asked: „And what is wrong with my body?“, which settled that.)

Season 7, episodes 25 and 26: All Good Things...: still for my money the best Trek finale and one of the best show finales all around. It manages to use the entire ensemble well, not least due to the three time periods it‘s set in (one around the pilot of the series, one in the series present day, one in the future), highlights both the changes among the crew and what remained the same, and wraps things up while not cutting off the possiblity for future adventures. Holding all this together is Patrick Stewart‘s performance as PIcard, the only character who experiences all three time periods simultanously. Well, him and Q, who is the plot macguffin justifying all the time travelling, and we get treated to more chemistry and one liners while the plot mixes the funny with the poignant. In conclusion: the perfect way to wrap up your Picard marathon!
selenak: (Skyisthelimit by Craterdweller)
Now here's new's to wake up to: Patrick Stewart will return as Jean-Luc Picard in a new Trek series.

Usually I'm on the side that thinks you should let finished stories be finished, and tend to be very sceptical about nostalgia trips. Also, the TNG finale, All Good Things... still is the best finale of any Trek show (so far, of course), and a fantastic example of how to conclude a story, full stop. But. Not only is Picard my Starfleet Captain, but the TNG movies, with the exception of First Contact, were mediocre (Generations, Prime Directive) to downright horrible (Nemesis), and for that reason alone, Nemesis not being the last time I get to watch my favourite Captain in action would please me. Especially since it won't be in a cinematic outing, which I've always said isn't the best medium for Star Trek, but a tv one, where you don't have to do the conventional "introduce villain, early set back, defeat villain" thing of cinematic rule and can do far more character stuff instead.

The other reason why I'm thrilled is the godawful reality we're living in, of course. It might be very good to be given a central character who isn't a frat boy (overgrown or otherwise); who has impulse control, who's a stoic, even, though that doesn't mean he can't be passionate about some issues. Who loves to geek out about archaelogy and actually tries to understand other cultures. Who is awkward around children but would die to defend them, and, more difficult for him, actually try to interact if that helps. Who has made mistakes, absolutely, yet learned from them. Who is, in short, an adult, and a good person. Maybe that's boring to some people; consider me more than ready to be bored in that sense.


The various announcements make it sound like it won't be a TNG continuation per se, meaning we have no idea who, other than Picard, will also be back, and much as I love the team, that actually would be refreshing, because the insistence from TOS onwards to treat a promotion as the worst thing ever to justify keeping the ensemble together is somewhat annoying. And the other characters can guest star at various points. Since I've always liked that Picard was the one ST Captain whose future (in the TNG finale flash forwards) wasn't being first an admiral and then a captain again but being an ambassador (which fits his personality and link with Sarek), I'm vaguely hoping for the new show to actually go there and let him be a diplomatic trouble shooter (in the metaphorical sense) posted at various crisis points in the galaxy, but I'm aware that the odds aren't good, and they'll probably give him a ship again based on ST precedent. Still, a woman can hope until told otherwise.


While I'm hoping: how about a scene with Picard and Guinan chatting in the pilot? This is a relationship I've always liked, and it could serve as brief exposition as to what Jean-Luc has been up to since we've seen him last.

Lastly: back when the first ST Reboot movie was released, I know a lot of people were upset about it wiping out the old continuity. I thought the movie itself made clear that we're operating with a multiverse model, i.e. the old and the new timelines co-exist, not one instead of the other, but some fans thought otherwise. So there's another reason for me to be glad we're returning to the TNG/DS9/Voy era of Trekdom on screen; it makes it clear these folk and their stories are still as canonical and there as ever.
selenak: (Live long and prosper by elf of doriath)
How other famous fictional detectives would have solved the murder of Laura Palmer All versions are witty, but the Philip Marlowe and the Phryne Fisher one cracked me up especially. Though I note with disapproval that wihile Poirot is represented, Miss Marple is not. Clearly, the Log Lady would have told her everything she needed to know on the first day. :)

Speaking of Twin Peaks, at first I had no intention of watching The Return, because I didn't feel a sequel was necessary, but then [profile] abigail_n's favorable review made me curious, so I marathoned it. And... I can see all her points, but my own impression was far more negative. Not least because there were elements in it which to me felt gratitiously spiteful, such as the fate of Audrey Horne, or disturbing in an unintended way (there's also plenty of deliberately disturbing, but that's a given with Twin Peaks), to wit, things like Janey-E blissfully declaring something spoilery ). But also because while the original Twin Peaks was not short of female suffering (I mean, the premise alone...), it had a lot of female pov characters as well (Donna, Audrey, Josie, Norma, Shelley). Twin Peaks: The Return, otoh, feels relentlessly male pov to me, and that in combination with the sheer number of abused female characters was very off-putting.

All this being said: Lynch's visual imagination is as good as ever, and I don't regret having watched it, not least for the incredible tenderness of the conversations between Hawke and Margaret, aka the Log Lady, which were filmed while the actress was dying. Oh, and given it's David Lynch, I should have known he'd cast Laura Dern as Diane. It's now impossible to imagine anyone else in that role, and as the recipient of all those tapes.

I've also continued my Star Trek: Enterprise watching to the point where the infamous post-9/11 narrative shift happens, and great maker, as Londo Mollari would say, is it ever immediately noticable. So that feels as good a point as any to look back at the first two seasons with a couple of observations.

1.) At its best, the show uses its early space flight/no Federation yet setting quite well, and certainly does a better job than Voyager did recalling its ship and crew don't have the Starfleet resources for repairs and restocking at their disposal whenever they need them. The episode when Enterprise has to undergo repairs at a fully automated alien station also struck a good balance between satire (for those of us in need of repairs and unable to talk to a human being, going from automated message to automated message instead) and suspense (the reveal about the extra price may have been a tad predictable, but it worked). Also, I appreciate that through the first two seasons there are repeated scenes where our heroes marvel at some space phenomenon in joy and awe - as explorers who'd never been in deep space before and had not seen pictures would.

2.) Otoh, when the show does the genre- and franchise immanent tropes, it rarely if ever rises above formula. This is where the comparison to Star Trek: Discovery is most striking to me. Discovery also does tropes, but delivers them with original twists. When Enterprise does Episode With Alien Princess And Male Starfleet Officer, it follows the same beats we've seen on TOS, on TNG. When it does "Enemy Mine" (another Trip episode), it does so by the letter. It's not that the result is objectionable (I like "Enemy Mine" stories! I do! And the alien pilot here can act better through his latex than Padma Lakshmi without any in the Princess episode), it's that there is no particular twist unique to this particular show in it. (Meanwhile, TNG gave us Darmok, which for my money is still the best ST twist on this particular tale, and not just because Patrick Stewart gets to tell the tale of Gilgamesh.) Whereas, when Discovery does a time loop episode, it does so in a way that's different from the TNG version, or for that matter the Xena and Buffy versions, furthers the relationships between regulars (Michael Burnham & Paul Stamets, Michael Burnham & Ash Tyler) and expands everyone's characterisations (plus the way our heroine forces the antagonist of the episode to reset the loop one more time is both inventive and outstandingly brave).

3.) Back when I had watched the fourth season without having watched more than the first three episodes of the first or any other season, I said that I found Malcolm Reed and Travis Mayweather bland as characters, without defining characterisation. Which I take back now; in the first two seasons, they get ample characterisation unique to them. Hoshi so far had to do more in s1 than in s2, and I do wish they'd have given her more scenes with T'Pol, because the few they get are always very interesting.

4.) At least two of the episodes are outstanding examples of HOW NOT TO WRITE MORAL DILEMMA EPISODES. Good lord, Berman & Braga. I haven't seen such tone deaf examples of "episode thinks it tells one story while actually coming across as telling something completely different" since TNG's The Outcast (aka the one where the writers' idea had been to do a sympathetic allegory about homosexuality while the result, not least due to the casting of the supposedly androgynous species by solely female actors, came across as Riker versus the planet of the intolerant lesbians). What I'm referring to: "Dear Doctor" in season 1, and "The Congenitor" in season 2. "The Congenitor" irritated me more because for the most part, I thought it worked quite well until we came to the denouement. It was a painful joy to see Andreas "G'Kar" Katsulas again, and his parts of the episode were one of those "space exploration is amazing!" scenes Enterprise, when it wants, does in a heartfelt way. I also before the denouement thought that the presentation of the aliens as both technologically advanced, friendly and, as was revealed through the episode, doing something spoilery that goes to the core of the ep ) But this is not what this episode does. It claims this is about cultural differences, and Trip having made the mistake of trying to impose his values on a culture he knows next to nothing about. And nobody, at any point, calls it the spoilerly thing it really is about. )

4a)Otoh, Stigma, aka the AIDS episode, to me was a good "sci fi take on a contemporary problem" episode, without any moral smugness and instead an earnest and intense "look in the mirror" subtext. The episode choosing to focus on medical research being slow as long as the illness is regarded as a problem for a minority the majority feels itself entitled to disdain morally, and the hypocrisy of differentiating between "good victims" and "bad victims" (depending on how they got infected) was particular on point for those of us who remember the 80s.

5.) Oh good lord, the bio gel really is as awkwardly fanservice-y as the introduction episodes made it look. I think the most awkward (and very, very American) thing about it is that T'Pol, who ends up in these scenes more often than the rest of the gang, always keeps her underwear on. Look, writers, if it's for de-contamination, you have to put the stuff on your entire skin, surely? *Note to self: don't go off on a tangent about how to do Sauna again*
selenak: (Discovery)
Once upon a time, when all things Star Trek were (mostly) the only game in town, the difference between space ship settings and space station settings seemed mostly amount to: a space ship setting lends itself more to episodic tv, meeting new characters and worlds every week, with the episodes being self contained and thus able to be watched in whatever order, whereas a space station setting favoured more intense and long time depiction of fewer (but detailed) cultures, when it came to the big picture, as well as ongoing relationship developments (when it came to the regular cast).

Spoilers for all shows named in the tags look at that theory and find it lacking )

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selenak: (Skyisthelimit by Craterdweller)
First, I must specify that „Top Ten“ means „my favourite top ten“, not „the objectively top ten most important/best written/acted friendships“. For example, as I recall Ira Behr in one of the specials for the s7 of DS9 dvds declares the friendship between O’Brien and Bashir to be the best in Star Trek, and this, he adds defiantly, includes Kirk/Spock. Leaving writerly pride (since he took part in developing said relationship) aside, he’s got a point in as much as it’s one of the best and most consistently developed friendships, from the moment O’Brien is appalled by eager young puppy Bashir when they meet to the mutual love declaration near the end of s7. However, as this particular relationship never meant much to me, personally, you won’t find it on this list.

So: my entirely subjective top ten, in no particular order, excluding Star Trek: Discovery, since half a season of material isn’t enough to make such a judgment, and Star Trek: Enterprise because I only saw part of canon and don’t remember enough of what I saw.

TOS: Kirk-Spock-McCoy. Yes, I could list „Kirk and Spock“, „Kirk and McCoy“, and „McCoy and Spock“ all individually, but one of the things which made the original triad so compelling was that really each member cared about each of the others, had a strong relationship with each of the others, and no one was an also ran. And I resent fanfic which doesn’t consider that.

Reboot movies: Pike & Kirk. It pushed each of my fatherly mentor buttons, and I will forever regret Abrams & Co didn’t have the courage to end the first movie with Pike in command of the Enterprise and Kirk and Spock both serving as his officers, which would have made so much more sense. Anyway, Pike & Kirk: loved each of their scenes.

(I wanted to list Spock & Saavik here as well, but I’m a „only the movies and tv shows are canon“ person, and me falling for the Saavik and Spock relationship was mostly due to the combination of Vonda McIntyre’s ST II novelization and Carolyn Cowles‘ novel „The Pandora Principle“, which gave us the background of Saavik being half Romulan and raised by Spock. Now I adored their relationship in those novels, but on screen they only have a few lines of dialogue in STII and some scenes where Spock is literally out of his mind in ST III, which would not have done the trick on their own. Moreover, subsequent novels made the appalling decision of letting Saavik and Spock become a couple, which I hated.)

TNG: Guinan & Picard: It was mysterious and ambiguous and we only ever got hints how their deep mutual trust was established, but it made for powerful scenes. (I mean, Picard risked the lives of his entire crew simply on Guinan’s feeling they were in the wrong time line!)

Riker & Troi: the first exes in ST who successfully managed both a good professional relationship and a strong friendship post romance, being there for each other in a crisis (as when Troi temporarilly lost her powers in „Loss“), and not interfering with each other’s love lives. Yes, they got together again romantically post show, but that doesn’t exclude the relationship from the „friendship“ category for the entire TNG run. Look, I’m fond of my share of dysfunctional can’t live with, can’t live without relationships, I’ll not deny it, but every now and then I’m truly grateful fiction offers me adult exes as friends as well.

Data & Geordi: just had each other’s backs, and possibly the most uncomplicated relationship in their lives. (Except when Geordi had to look after Data’s cat.) Can’t imagine TNG without them.

(Couldn’t list: Sarek & Picard, because intense mind sharing in two episodes does not a friendship make, but despite the lack of screentime, their scenes are a big reason why I started to love TNG.)

DS9: Quark & Jadzia Dax, to no one’s surprise who has read my DS9 stuff. This started in s2 with Jadzia beginning to hang out with Quark and continued to Quark joining an insane quest for her sake after she’d died. Yes, it became love on his side, but it was friendship first, and arguably the strongest relationship he had with a non-Ferengi in his life. As for Dax, I believe her when she tells Pel she (Jadzia) loves Quark.

Dax (any of them) & Benjamin Sisko: through three incarnations (and a half, if you count the symbiont thief from early s2 who got distracted by the symbiont not coping with rejection by Sisko), this was a delightful friendship, with both oft hem at different times playing the role of advisor and advised. I have some other problems with the storyline in question, but Sisko getting into his existential crisis by mainly by losing one Dax and being pulled out of it mainly by another always struck me as entirely plausible.

Jake & Nog: Talk about friendship with Ferengi. The kids literally grew up on the show, and if their early scenes were both comic relief and a chance to confront Sisko with his own bias, they later had plausible teenage fallouts and reconciliations, partly due to choosing different paths (and I’ll always love that it’s Nog who starts a Starfleet career, while Jake remains a civilian and sticks to his writing, heartrendering AU episode aside), yet the affection remained. I think poor old Wesley got too harsh a deal in terms of fan hatred on TNG, but it’s undeniable that by the time DS9 came along, the writing for teenagers and the awareness of how to integrate them in the overall story had impoved.

Garak & Bashir: I feel a bit like cheating when listing them because they were my earliest slash ship and I ship them still. But then again, I listed Riker & Troi. So. From their first encounter in early s1 till the s4 episode „Our Man Bashir“ (after which the show infamously got gunshy and hardly gave them any scenes anymore for the remainder of the show, with a very few exceptions), this was and remains one of my favourite ST relationships, full stop. On one level, it was the cynicism/idealism combination, but it was also that they were learning from each other; I think Garak needed Julian Bashir not to give up on his ideals as much as Bashir needed to figure out where his own lines were.

Voyager: Janeway & Seven of Nine. I was starting to go off ST during the early Voy seasons (though now in retrospect I see the show and what it did especially with the female roles somewhat differently), but s4 made me for a while a dedicated viewer, and the Janeway-Seven relationship was a big reason why. It was hard to categorize, and I like that the show never tried to make it just one thing or the other, that it remained prickly and intense, supportive and argumentative, throughout the time I was watching.

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selenak: (Emma Swan by Hbics)
Return of the January Meme, as best I can in a very rl exhausted state. A canon knowledge preamble: I stopped watching Once upon a Time in the later third of season 4, and am inclined to count solely seasons 1 - 3 as "my" canon, though I'm not iron set on this. Anyway, I don't have knowledge about Emma in season 5, and thus my comparisons can't be based on later canon.

Spoilers about two stoics in two canons )

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selenak: (QuarkDax)
Day 28 - Your favourite friendship in Star Trek?

I have to separate this into incarnations again.

TOS: the trio, inevitably. And I do mean all three, not Kirk/Spock plus McCoy, but Kirk-McCoy-Spock, with Kirk's friendship with McCoy and McCoy's bickering friendship with Spock as important as the one between Kirk and Spock. Together with the good ship Kirk/Enterprise, this three way friendship is the emotional heart of the show, and the reason it survived that long.

TNG: I was certainly most intrigued by Picard & Guinan. We never got an episode that was all about them, but there were enough scenes to show the depth of the relationship - Picard's complete trust in Guinan's judgment in Yesterday's Enterprise, the way he confides in her in Measure of a Man, while there were also lighthearted scenes (Guinan's wry reaction to Picard's archaelogical geeking out at the start of Rascals). And of course there was the mysterious origin of that relationship. (Shame Time's Arrow, which showed how it started from Guinan's pov, wasn't a good two parter, but they never showed Picard's first encounter with Guinan from his timeline, so that's left free for the imagination.)

DS9: Quark & Dax, and I've written the fanfiction to prove it. Jadzia was the first among the regulars to hang out with Quark socially, not because she was a customer at his bar, and to unabashedly enjoy his company. (This, btw, was when her character clicked for me. The first season had played Dax serene and wise, while the second introduced the Dax who had a flippant sense of humor, loved playing Tongo with Ferengi and flirted with aliens that had open skulls. Not surprisingly, the later version was the one who stuck around.) But it wasn't all having good times together, there was a line to be crossed, which came when he did the weapons of mass destruction dealings with Cousin Gaila, and her reaction was key to giving Quark the courage to go up against Gaila and his psycho client.

Voyager: Janeway & Seven of Nine. This made me from a lukewarm Voyager watcher into, for a while, an avidly interested one. It was a prickly relationship with a great paradox at its start - Janeway forcing individualism on Seven who didn't want it (but whether or not Seven was in a state to make such a decision immediately after being cut off from the Collective was an unanswerable question) -, and their frequent clashes kept me as hooked as their moments of understanding.

Reboot: Kirk & Pike. Reboot!Pike pushed just about every fatherly mentor button I have, and whether he was supportive or chewing Kirk out, he just knew how to handle Jim K., and became apparantly the first person whose opinion really mattered to young Kirk; his inspiration, too. (I'll never fail to regret the reboot wasn't radical and had Christopher Pike remain Captain, with Kirk and Spock serving as his officers.


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Day 20 - Of the minor characters (one shots, not the recurring ones) who’s your favorite?

There are shows where I could answer this immediately (Babylon 5: Timov, and in conclusion, Timov!), but for Star Trek in its various incarnations, it's surprisingly difficult. First because ST the guest stars I feel passionately about tend to be in more than one episode. (Or movie, which is why I can't list Saavik here, or K'eyhler, let alone Sarek and Amanda or Reboot!Pike.) Then there are genuine one shots which I think were interesting, and it would be intriguing to explore them more or learn what became of them post episode, like Rugal, the Cardassian boy raised as Bajoran in Cardassians (and Una McCormack did that in a novel), or Elizabeth Dehner (Margaret Bonnano brought her back in Strangers in the Sky), but I can't say I love them, which the word "favorite" implies.

Mulling this over some more, I'm circling around a few one shots which I do feel a bit stronger for: in the movies, Dr. Gillian Taylor (who had her own agenda and reasons to work with Our Heroes which weren't about being attracted to any of them! And she succeeded in achieving what she wanted! All hail the Whale Expert!) competing with Lily from First Contact (when I saw it in the cinema, I did have a problem with one of the strongest scenes that can be summed up with "but he should have that conversation with Beverly!), but such Doylist concerns aside - which grew weaker during the rewatch - Lily was great, a brave woman in a very scary situation indeed who did that most difficult thing, not just standing up to enemies but to friends. Plus Alfe Woodard had great chemistry with Patrick Stewart of the "two strong actors together" type without the movie trying to make her into a love interest.

In the various shows: Pel, the Ferengi Yentl. Who hopefully stays clear of the Founders after going off to make profit in the Gamma Quadrant. Yes, you knew how her story would go from the beginning (at least if you've watched Yentl), but that didn't make it any less enjoyable, and I really appreciated they remained true to the original and didn't let her settle for girlfriend/wife status instead of pursueing her dreams. We got only two female Ferengi characters on DS9 (or anywhere else), Ishka and Pel, and Pel never got stuck with the weaker writing of the "senile Nagus" storyline; she had her story, from which she exited with audience and characters knowing she made the right choice. So: Pel! (Icon chosen because it's actually a line from a conversation Dax has with Pel in the episode.)




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selenak: (Not from Nottingham by Calapine)
Day 15 - How did you get into Star Trek?

As a child in the 70s, I watched tv. And liked the original series a lot. Then I became a sci fi obsessed teenager in the 80s and an equally sci fi and fantasy fond adult in the 90s, and around the time TNG was in its third season, I discovered fandom. As a child, I didn't have conversations about Star Trek, nor did I feel the urge to. And wile I was sad at the end of Wrath of Khan, I didn't try to to find out whether there would be another movie, or if Spock would be back. It simply didn't occur to me. Therefore, despite my affection for TOS, I see TNG as the series which got me into Star Trek in the sense of making me a fan who sought out other fans, tried to get their hands on English language original episodes which hadn't been broadcast in Germany yet, discovered there was such a thing as fanfiction and went to their very first convention. When I had my very first Kirk versus Picard debate, I knew I was done for. :)


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selenak: (rootbeer)
Day 14 - What's your favorite Star Trek quote?

Welll, now. There are certain Trek phrases that have stuck with me - the obvious ("Live long and prosper", "infinite variety in infinite combinations"), my fondness for Quark means I know a lot of the Rules of Aquisition ("treat people in your debt like family - exploit them", "home is where the heart is, but the stars are made of latinum", and I have been known to mutter "red alert" in critical situations. Also, Picard's "a lie of omission is still a lie" from The First Duty came in handy more than once. So did Garak's "the truth is usually ust an excuse for a lack of imagination". :)

Then there's the dialogue that lives from context yet can be altered for appropriation, like Picard's reply in Tapestry to Q's "Welcome to the afterlife, Jean-Luc. You're dead, and I'm God!" , which was: No. I am not dead. Because I refuse to believe that the afterlife is run by you. The universe is not so badly designed!

"The universe is not that badly designed" has become my optimistic (despite dire counter examples) assertion to a great many absurd or bizarre situations.

But really, the designation "favourite quote" has to go to the Quark and Garak exchange from my icon again, which takes place in The Way of the Warrior. To quote the scene in full:

[Garak takes a drink of root beer]
Quark: What do you think?
Garak: It's vile.
Quark: I know. It's so bubbly and cloying and happy.
Garak: Just like the Federation.
Quark: And you know what's really frightening? If you drink enough of it, you begin to like it.
Garak: It's insidious.
Quark: Just like the Federation.
[pause]
Garak: Do you think they can save us?
Quark: I hope so.


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selenak: (Live long and prosper by elf of doriath)
Day 13 - What's your favorite dramatic moment?

A bit easier to answer, but only a bit, and separately for each incarnation.

TOS + TOS movies: "I am, and always will be, your friend." There's just no beating that for emotional impact, even knowing it'll be undone by the next movie. It's the culmination of decades of friendship on a Watsonian level, and on a Doylist one for the audience (the first time one anyway) watching that friendship. (You have to earn something like Spock's goodbye to Kirk when he's dying, you really can't goo there early on in your story, she growls.) I can make fun of William Shatner's acting style with the rest of the world, but for that particular scene, it wasn't just Nimoy who was in the zone, acting-wise. It's intense and sublime and if you disagree, I just don't want to know.


TNG: upon first time watching, the end of Best of Both Worlds, part I. If you get there unspoiled and see Locutus for the first time, absorb what this means, and then Riker gives his order, you know what I mean. However, while it's still a tense moment during rewatch, and so my choice is another scene. It's the very end of Chain of Command, part II, when Picard admits to Deanna Troi he did see five lights. Before that, I thought the George Orwell rip-off in the torture scenes was well done but flinched from one of the biggest Orwell points - that anyone can be broken, that Winston Smith in 1984 really did see as many fingers as O'Brien wanted him to see at the end. I thought substituting Picard saying "there are four lights" to Gul Madred after his rescue arrives was basically bowlderizing and making something look heroic which shouldn't be glamourized by heroism because it's so real life awful. And then we got to this quiet aftermath scene, and my feelings completely changed. And remained changed during rewatch. For all that TNG gets accused of being sanitized sci fi, not "gritty" the way later shows were, there is this scene in its stark honesty, and it reaffirmed and even strengthened my Picard love. He's the hero of the show AND he's no more invulnerable, in body and spirit, than anyone subjected to such horrors. Also? That he trusts Troi with this information is a good way to show, not tell the importance of her job as counsellor on the Enterprise.

DS9: one of the best is certainly also a quiet scene - Sisko's final statement in In the Pale Moonlight - "I can live with it" (if you've watched the episode, you know why this epitomizes the moral grey of DS9) -, but it's not my favourite. My favourite, depending on my mood, is either Bashir taking Garak's hand in The Wire - "I forgive you, whatever it is you've done" (which, yes, presumptous, but very Julian and very what Garak needed to hear at this moment), or Kira at the end of Duet, learning that the guy who killed Marritza didn't even know who Marritza was (either the pretend identity or the real one), it was enough that M. was a Cardassian. The expression of Kira's face will always stay with me.


Voy: Janeway and Seven in the holding cell in The Gift, when an only recently cut from the Collective Seven faces the new and (to her at this point) terrible reality of being an individual again and tells Janeway she's forcing this on her, countering Janeways pro free will speech with the question that if she, as a free individual, would want to return to the Collective, would Janeway let her? This was when I thought "this idea of having an ex drone on board is actually turning into something interesting that hadn't been done on TNG before, and was riveted.


Reboot: for all my growling about a certain imitiation earlier, the reboot did offer more than one dramatic scene I loved. For my favourite, again depending on my mood, I choose either Spock's showdown with the Vulcan Academy (this had been one of the most speculated about scenes of Trek fan lore, and I do love this version, including Quinto managing to make "live long and prosper" sound like "up yours"), or Pike's scene with beaten up young Kirk in the bar, which managed to make reboot Pike into one of my favourite Starship Captains and was just the right mixture of fatherly and no-nonsense to drag reboot Kirk into a future.


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selenak: (rootbeer)
Day 12 - What's your favorite funny moment?

This is so hard to answer that I must list seperately for each incarnation.

TOS: Two I already named - the Tribble on Kirk's head is competing with Iman!Shapeshifter turning into William Shatner and delivering his/her line re: Kirk's secret wish. Runner-up: Mad swashbuckler Sulu in The Naked Time adressing Uhura as "fair maiden" and Uhura retorting "sorry, neither", and also the scene in Charlie X where Uhura is teasing Spock via song and he gamely plays along. Can't decide between these four.

TNG: "What can I do to convince you people?" "Die." (Deja Q, Q is trying to assure the Enterprise crew this isn't another game, he really did turn human, and Worf giving his succint answer. I mean, I love Q, but that was perfect.) On that note, I'm also fond of another Worf moment, from the Robin Hood episode: "I am not a merry man!". But if I have to choose, it must stay behind such gems as Deanna's tipsy First Contact (the movie, not the episode) rant - "this is not the time to argue about time!", or "Jean-Luc, Jean-Luc, sometimes I think the only reason I come here is to listen to those wonderful speeches of yours" (Q in True Q, after Picard has just delivered an impassioned defense of humanity (again)).

DS9: One runner-up: "If you're above money, you certainly don't need mine." (Nog to Jake in In the Cards - In The Cards is full of hilarity, of course, but here Nog strikes a blow against the mystery that is Federation economics and moral lectures to Ferengi on same) competing with "we don't talk about it to outsiders" (Worf's non-explanation for the change of looks for Klingons from the TOS era to the movieverse, TNG and after era in Trials and Tribble-ations). And then there's Quark's deadpan reply in Little Green Men when Odo shows up at the 11th hour and one of the humans asks who this is: "My hero." (It's funny because it's true.*g*) But really, the crown has to go to Garak's and Quark's immortal rootbeer/Federation exchange from my icon.

Voyager: Janeway as Arachnia in Captain Proton is certainly up there, as is the Doctor in Seven of Nine's body experiencing food and drink, but my favourite funny Voyager moment is a daydream the Doctor has, involving Tuvok and... you'll see. Ignore the rubbish he says about La Donna é mobile at the start of this sequence (no, Doctor, this aria isn't sung by a poor student about his heartless mistress, it's sung by a ruthless lothario of a Duke about to pounce on his latest victim), and just bask in what follows:




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selenak: (Skyisthelimit by Craterdweller)
Day 9 - What's your favorite episode?

Another fiendishly difficult question, since it's not about compiling a "best of" list. I will try to answer for each show.

TOS: It depends on my mood. If seriously inclined, either City on the Edge of Forever (first time travel episode, arguably still one of the best, and Edith Keeler is a three dimensional female guest character) or Journey to Babel (because of Sarek and Amanda). If in the mood to smile, Trouble of Tribbles, of course. The Tribble landing on Kirk's head will never not be funny. Especially now that we know Dax threw it.

TNG: Arrgggh. I love so many for different reasons! Darmok because it's TNG-Style Trek at its best, Measure of a Man (first fan written script becoming canon!) for doing the trial concept with genuine suspense (Riker's counter demonstration, despite the fact he hated every minute of it, was grimly efficient), including one of the best Picard and Guinan scene (with a discussion about what slavery is, no less) and turning what was originally played as a gag moment (the Tasha/Data encounter in The Naked Now) into something with meaning when we saw Data still had Tasha's goodbye message, Family for being a groundbreaking ST episode (first time one episode's trauma wasn't over in the next episode) with great scenes for Picard and a lovely subplot about Worf's parents, Face of the Enemy for being the best Troi episode and offering a Le Carré like ambiguity (the Romulan commander is an honorable woman, Deanna Troi's ally, otoh, is decidely shady) in spying... but really, I have to go with the very last episode(s), All Good Things.... Which has it all: great ensemble use and emphasis on character growth, good use of the three different time zones concept, bringing various themes full circle, Picard/Q sparring (and Data observing Q has a thing for Picard), and an ending that was full of hope for the future. Very fitting for this show, and still the best ST finale.

DS9: see, if I were asked about "best" I'd go for In the Pale Moonlight, no question about it, but I have to be in the right mood for that one. Most loved, well, different episodes for different characters. The Wire for Garak/Bashir, obviously, House of Quark for the Klingon/Ferengi culture clash, and Quark resolving a moral dilemma in a very Quark way, Necessary Evil for Terok Nor and Odo as noir detective, The Visitor for Jake Sisko breaking my heart, Blood Oath for Jadzia Dax and her three Klingon Musketeers, Duet for being the first and still one of the best episode to discover the magic that comes from Kira + a Cardassian combinations complete with for the first time Star Trek tackling a Third Reich theme without Operetta Nazis and therefore much more harrowingly, Indiscretion because Kira and Dukat were terrific on screen together and the first Ziyal was still the best.... and Our Man Bashir for being the funniest Holosuite episode ever with great ooc roles for almost the entire ensemble (other than Bashir and Garak), also providing a far more entertaining take on James Bond than the Bond movies did at the time (this was the Pierce Brosnan era), and still managing to include one great character scene (Bashir shooting Garak to stop him from ending the program). I can't choose between them, don't make me!

Voyager: Someone to Watch Over Me, without question. Also my favourites among all ST show's attempts to do romantic comedy.The Doctor tutoring Seven in social skills had been an ongoing storyline (and continues to be beyond this episode), but here the writers borrow a page from Shaw's Pygmalion, only with a reverse emotional outcome. The Doctor making a bet with Tom Paris that he can teach Seven how to date, and well enough so she can show up at the social function of the week with said date without alienating everyone is following precedent, but in Pygmalion (and its musical adaption My Fair Lady), it's the student, Eliza, who falls in love with Higgins through this (how much Higgins is affected depends on whether you believe Shaw or Lerner), while in the Voyager episode it's the teacher, the Doctor. In both cases, the turning point is when the student after succesfully accomplishing the original task discovers the bet the teacher made and leaves in indignation. Someone to Watch Over Me has a bittersweet graceful ending note when Seven and the Doctor reconcile, but he decides not to tell her how he feels. In between, we get some pricelessly funny scenes (one of my favourite details is Seven's appalled look when during her trial run date with another crewman, the crewman orders lobster, and she looks from the lobster to her own exsoskeleton) and a great duet exploiting the fact both Robert Picardo and Jeri Ryan can sing. The subplot with Neelix having to chaperone an ambassador cracks me up as well, as do the asides about Paris/Torres ("How do you know when we're having intimate relations?" "There is no one on deck 12, subsection 5 who doesn't know when you're having intimate relations").


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