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selenak: (Clone Wars by Jade Blue Eyes)
Thanks to Netflix, I finally got around to watching The Eagle, aka the movie based on Rosemary Sutcliff's novel The Eagle of the Ninth. Which I didn't watch in the cinema because of the various alterations I'd heard about (including removing all the female characters of the novel; in fact, all the Romanized Britons of either gender, so in the movie world, Britons seemingly exist only either as slaves on the Roman side of the wall or as free tribes on the other). Verdict, now that I've watched it: the Scottish landscape is striking and atmospheric, I'm fine with the actors, the movie serves up a different slash trope than the novel does (novel: best friends, film: enemies forced to work together becoming allies), and does it well. But as it turns out, my biggest problem isn't the lack of Cottia (though I do miss her, and adopt the headcanon someone else told me about, i.e. that the red haired girl we see at the games visibly disliking the display is her), but the fact movie Marcus had to be dumbed down so considerably in order for the second part of the film to work the way its creators wanted it to. Spoilery explanation as to why. ) In concusion: disengage brain, enjoy the slash trope, then the movie works.

Also thanks to Netflix, I realised that I was thinking of the wrong Clone Wars all these years when people, even prequel haters, praised the tv show and I was slightly surprised, because I had bought a dvd featuring really badly drawn cartoons with non stop battle sequences and no character stuff, and had been disappointed, so had not looked further. Turns out the Star Wars: The Clone Wars series which got so much (deserved) praise was instead this really amazing computer animation thing which does unite character development with action. I'm one and a half season in (an episode takes less than half an hour) and definitely in love. In addition to fleshing out the characters established by the movies, the series adds more and sets me up for (welcome) heartbreak by individualizing the Clones (Rex!) and above all with Ashoka and the Anakin-Ashoka relationship. Which is and isn't like an older brother-younger sister one (though you can also occasionally catch a glimpse of what Anakin would have been like with Leia had he never fallen). The series has a good sense of humor, too; the episode in which Dooku, Obi-Wan and Anakin have managed to get themselves all captured by greedy pirates and are forced to work together in order to escape had me in stitches a lot. Another aspect: because make up for actors isn't an issue in this format, the show can use a lot non-human characters. In fact, most of the regular Jedi with lines and personalities other than Obi-Wan, Mace Windu and Anakin aren't human, and that pleases me. Forever an alien fan, that's yours truly.
selenak: (Romans by Kathyh)
Okay, confession time: one reason why I haven't watched The Eagle yet is that I gathered via fannish osmosis that there is no Cottia in it. And damn it, I like Cottia. The Eagle of the Ninth isn't a sacred text to me, and yes, of course the main event is the Marcus and Esca relationship, but does that prevent me from liking other aspects about it, including Marcus' wife-to-be? It doesn't. My favourite Eagle of the Ninth fanfic at Yuletide was Aedificare, in which all three - Marcus, Esca and Cottia, that is - build a life together. So the news that there was no Cottia saddened me and kept me away from the film, as did reactions from people who'd seen the film first, then read the book and promptly objected to Cottia's presence in it as interfering with the slash. And I'm a sad puppy all over again, wailing "Why can't I like Alice/Charles as much as Bob/Charles, or maybe Alice/Bob if they have a relationship of their own, and best of all Alice/Bob/Charles?"

Granted, this does not work in every constellation. If Alice and Bob loathe each other canonically - bearing in mind that contrary to fanfic and Hollywood, not every hostility is a cover for sexual tension - then yes, it's not very likely the three of them will all live together peacefully any time soon. (But even then, I reserve my right to like Alice as much as either Bob or Charles.) Also, it's entirely possible Alice, Bob and Charles all like each other very much indeed but are not cool with polygamous relationships. This is not a crime, nor does it make them small-minded. (BTW, this is why West Wing's Jed/Leo works for me emotionally but not in terms of an actual sexual relationship during show canon time. Jed wouldn't cheat on Abbey. Leo, especially bearing in mind the way he needs Jed to be the best president ever, would not go there, either. Abbey likes and respects Leo, but I just don't buy Abbey taking the "whatever makes you happy, dear" road; I think she defines marriage as a monogamous union, too.) So no, I'm not prescribing sexual threesomes as the solution to being into slash couple Bob/Charles while there is canonical Alice around involved with Bob or Charles. I'm aware there are characters for whom this simply wouldn't work. And actually I prefer it in fanfic if Alice is written out (in a respectful manner that doesn't have Bob or Charles suddenly realise they never loved her at all) - than to see her badly characterized or bashed as a presence in a Bob/Charles story.

And yet it bothers me that the film version of The Eagle did just this. I tell myself: but this way, she won't be mischaracterized on screen and getting horrible treatment in fanfic afterwards. Doesn't help. Perhaps because a film adaption is different from fanfic; it's a canon of its own, which just declared this (female) character I like is not worth keeping. And immediately connects in my mind with the fandom treatment for female love interests of one half of popular slash couples in many a fandom, only, again, this isn't fanfic.

Now I'm seen some female fannish responses in various fandoms (not The Eagle, but then I haven't looked there, what with still not having seen the film) going to the opposite extreme of declaring Alice the only worth while character in her canon and loathing Bob and Charles instead, and that makes me feel sitting between the chairs all over again, because again, quite often I like not only Alice & Bob & Charles but also Bob/Charles in addition to Alice/Charles or Alice/Bob. I don't want to read Bob and Charles condemned as boring idiots not fit to wipe Alice's feet anymore than I want to read Alice Who? stories. And I'm so happy if canon, however flawed it may be in other regards, gives me, as for example Merlin did with Gwen, Arthur and Merlin, a constellation where the relationships Alice has with both Bob and Charles are developed, she's important to them both and we have a three way interplay that's crucial to the film/book/show in question. Never mind whether or not there is potential for a threesome in the sexual sense, if there are emotional ties to more than one person, this to me is something to be celebrated, not abhorred.

Perhaps it's a question of age. The older I get, the more off-putting I find it if a pairing - het or slash, this doesn't matter - is presented in a way that all other relationships of the people involved have to be sacrificed, disregarded or ignored (doesn't matter whether these relationships are platonic or romantic in nature), and the more I value stories that allow me to root for more than one relationship in them. Doesn't mean I'm always rooting for all relationships with the same strength, but - I'm just happy if they're there, you know?

In conclusion: cases of the vanishing other characters and relationships make [personal profile] selenak a sad panda.
selenak: (Rani - Kathyh)
My recipient liked her story, and I got some nice feedback from other people as well. Colour me pleased. (I still think it's glaringly obvious I wrote it, so I shan't make people guess.) Now, as to the continuing wonders of the Yuletide ficathon, here's my second rec post:


Blade Runner:

Retirement: as opposed to, say, Terminators or Cylons, Replicants came with an in-built death sentence - they shut down after four years - and their fury at their creators for this together with the way they were used was all too understandable. This short, intense first person narration brings Zhora to life, one of the Replicants who make it back to Earth. Every line packs a punch. Awesome.

Dexter:

The Way: Frank Lundy finds a killer. AU from the end of s2 onwards, asking a good „what if?“ question, in this case: what if Lundy had remained in Miami at the end of s2 and had ended up putting all those clues together about Dexter? Great characterisation of everyone involved.

The Eagle of the Ninth:

Aedificare: in which Marcus, Cottia and Esca build a life together after the end of the novel. Has Sutcliff's eye for detail, and makes for lovely reading.

The Graveyard Book:

A Winter's Night: utterly charming missing scenes type of story, giving us a slice of Bod's life among the ghosts, capturing his various relationships.

Greek Mythology:

Young Agamemnon Sees It Through: if you'd ask me which mythological characters were the least suited candidates for a young adult adventures type of story, Agamemnon, Clytaimnestra and Menelaos would probably have come to mind. But the author actually pulls it off. Teenage Agamemnon and his younger brother Menelaos encounter teenage Clytaimnestra who is on her way to rescue her sister Helen (only twelve and just abducted for the first time, by Theseus, which btw is indeed part of the myths). Cue teenage bickering and team-up, road movie type adventures, infuriating encounters with Clytaimnestra’s older brothers, the Dioscures (also on the way to rescue Helen and basically the villains in the way Kiefer Sutherland’s character and his gang in Stand By Me are), and my mouth is still open in admiration that all of this not only works as a self contained story but actually as a prequel, too.

Love-lies-bleeding: Helen’s first abduction was part of a deal between Theseus and his friend Pirithous; in return, Theseus had pledged support for Pirithous’ hubristic scheme of abducting the Queen of the Underworld herself, Persephone. Big mistake, boys. Biiiiiiig mistake. This story takes its cue from Ovid and his urban Roman cynicism, and shares povs between Theseus and Persephone.

Five Futures Kassandra Saw, And One She Could Not: now we're on to Euripides fanfic (inspired by his play The Trojan Women); what I especially appreciate is that this take on Kassandra, Klytaimnestra, Andromache and Helen vilifies none of them (including Helen) and renders them all three dimensional.

Maurice:

Aurora Mundi: in which, after World War I, Clive and his wife Anne travel to Italy where they meet by chance Maurice and Alec. Talk about lack of vilification. No one is vilified in this one, either, and Anne in particular is so endearing she basically steals the story. I can’t tell you how refreshing this is when you think about how often female characters end up bashed, killed off or scorned for no other sin than coming between a popular slash pairing.

Sarah Jane Adventures:

Five Hundred and Twenty, or Thereabouts: Clyde, Rani and Luke are not a triangle. Lovely, lovely, OT3 fanfic, doing justice to their affection for each other. I was delighted to find so many SJA stories anyway, and love most, but this one is my favourite.

What to make out of snow: Adventure story using both our ensemble and other Whoverse characters, with Clyde/Rani subtext. In short, much like an episode of season 5. J

The Ongoing Relations of a Tin Dog and his BFFs: what it says on the label. Yes, some brilliant writer gave us K-9 fanfiction. Which leaves me with a wide grin on my face.

Pour, Rinse, Repeat: lovely portrait of Clyde's mother Carla and her reaction(s) to all the changes her son goes through.

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